Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

[Dale]

Five-star QB DJ Lagway locks in commitment date "It's time to build the No. 1 class"

The latest here on the blue-chip 2024 passer.

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Speaking of……another top 2024 QB going off the board soon. Dominoes are months ahead of normal cycle. LSU, UGA, ND, Bama and OSU have 2024 QBs. Lagway looks like Florida but could be someone else. 4 of the top 5 QBs currently. The bad recruiter seems to have made a pretty smart move getting ahead in June….

 

[Crazy Balki]

Its 100 percent Tommy's fault we're stuck with Pyne right now... but God Damnit... I think I'm coming around.

I disagree.

I've said this before, but it's really looking like our QB woes in recruiting were a Kelly/Long problem, not a Rees one.

Rees was hired in 2017 to be QB. The dude had never been a position coach and was a fresh 24 year old newbie.

Meanwhile, he's working with certified "offensive guru" with 30 years of coaching experience Brian Kelly, and certified offensive douchebag Chip Long. Do you honestly believe that either of those guys gave Tommy ANY say in who they went after for who was going to run their offense?

We already know that Kelly was a lazy recruiter, and to recruit QB's, you NEED a head coach who's going to be heavily involved practically every step of the way. It comes with the territory because that QB is often going to be the leader of your class. Add in the fact that Chip Long turned out to be an unlikable prick, you have very little to work with in terms of backing from your bosses.

It's no shock that once Tommy got promoted, he got a bit more say in who they went after and frankly, the QB recruiting has been significantly more consistent. Buchner is a major talent if he can stay healthy, Angeli is an underrated prospect with a better ceiling than he gets credit for, Minchey is a very impressive passer with good legs to boot and Carr is another major talent. That's the recruiting you need.

Not, get a top 100 player in Wimbush, then follow it up with a mid 3-star with a lower ceiling, followed by a guy who's future in college is most likely not QB, followed by another mid 3-star, followed by a guy who had been plummeting in the rankings and clearly hadn't grown as expected.

Under Freeman, recruiting never stops. They're not settling for less, and they're not going to tolerate inconsistencies on the trail.

 

[thekid33]

No question about it, I am ready to get hurt again.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I disagree.

I've said this before, but it's really looking like our QB woes in recruiting were a Kelly/Long problem, not a Rees one.

Rees was hired in 2017 to be QB. The dude had never been a position coach and was a fresh 24 year old newbie.

Meanwhile, he's working with certified "offensive guru" with 30 years of coaching experience Brian Kelly, and certified offensive douchebag Chip Long. Do you honestly believe that either of those guys gave Tommy ANY say in who they went after for who was going to run their offense?

We already know that Kelly was a lazy recruiter, and to recruit QB's, you NEED a head coach who's going to be heavily involved practically every step of the way. It comes with the territory because that QB is often going to be the leader of your class. Add in the fact that Chip Long turned out to be an unlikable prick, you have very little to work with in terms of backing from your bosses.

It's no shock that once Tommy got promoted, he got a bit more say in who they went after and frankly, the QB recruiting has been significantly more consistent. Buchner is a major talent if he can stay healthy, Angeli is an underrated prospect with a better ceiling than he gets credit for, Minchey is a very impressive passer with good legs to boot and Carr is another major talent. That's the recruiting you need.

Not, get a top 100 player in Wimbush, then follow it up with a mid 3-star with a lower ceiling, followed by a guy who's future in college is most likely not QB, followed by another mid 3-star, followed by a guy who had been plummeting in the rankings and clearly hadn't grown as expected.

Under Freeman, recruiting never stops. They're not settling for less, and they're not going to tolerate inconsistencies on the trail.

Sorry but this year's awfully thin QB Room is 110% on Freeman and Rees. They could have brought in a Grad Transfer - a very logical step - and they didn't. This one has nothing to do with Kelly.

FWIW, Kelly now has one of the deepest QB Rooms in SEC if not CFB.

 

[NDohio]

I am hopeful that the time TB is spending in the booth next to Tommy is going to be very beneficial to him going into next season. Hopefully between the knowledge he is gaining from that experience and ND bringing in a transfer that will push TB he can reach his potential. I feel like how competitive he is that being pushed by a transfer will be a real benefit to his game.

I do hope Tommy is around at least through next season. The talent he and the offensive coaches are bringing in is gonna make for some exciting times on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The talent he and the offensive coaches are bringing in is gonna make for some exciting times on the offensive side of the ball.

Louder so the dudes in their mom's basements can hear you.

 

[NDohio]

Louder so the dudes in their mom's basements can hear you.

The talent he and the offensive coaches are bringing in is gonna make for some exciting times on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The talent he and the offensive coaches are bringing in is gonna make for some exciting times on the offensive side of the ball.

Now they are all awake and will demand Hot Pockets.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Louder so the dudes in their mom's basements can hear you.

I'm upstairs FYI

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'm upstairs FYI

Good. Clean ACamp's room

 

[Dale]

The 2019 - 2020, guys that are upperclassmen without COVID or 5th years has gotten significant contributions on offense from:

Kyren Williams
Zeke Correll
Michael Mayer
Chris Tyree
Drew Pyne (5)

That’s the list. In two entire classes. The 2021 class alone it is:

Blake Fisher
Joe Alt
Lorenzo Styles
Audric Estime
Logan Diggs
Jayden Thomas
Mitch Evans (7)

with signs from Merriweather, Colzie, Buchner, Staes, Raridon of more already. And our best skill position class in years coming in 2023. This roster offensively is built on guys with extra eligibility + guys recruited under Rees.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Good. Clean ACamp's room

GROSS

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I hope he sticks around for a long time.
The numbers would be very high if we had just average quarterback play.
Get a quality guy to transfer in and the team might be set for the foreseeable future!

 

[NDohio]

I'm upstairs FYI

Sorry if I was a little too loud and disturbed your alone time...

 

[irishnd31]

Good. Clean ACamp's room

... sooooooo much sperm

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Now they are all awake and will demand Hot Pockets.

Damn...is Ma out of pizza rolls?

 

[arrowryan]

Book was good but wasn’t great. But I will say he was very productive.

Jurkovec 18 never developed
Clark 19 never developed
Pyne 20 still not developed
Buchner 21 to early to tell but he struggles throwing the ball.
Angeli 22 we don’t know. He either is really struggling to make a push considering how bad Pyne has played or they don’t want him too. Yes I understand stand he is a freshman. Is a freshman is better than Pyne they should be playing.

17 I don’t think is fair to judge him on since they recruiting was already started when he came on board.

Jurkovec didn’t develop anywhere. It was a misread by the sites and multiple coaching staff. I’ll give you Clark and Pyne. It’s still too early for Buchner, as the OL was straight shit against OSU and Marshall.

Angeli isn’t playing because he’s not ready. If he was the better QB, he would play. It’s quite literally that simple.

I was in the same boat you’re in though. I was so pissed at Rees with the QB room and lack of recent success in recruiting. If we can go Minchey-Carr, I’m willing to give him another chance. His play calling is there, I really like it for the most part.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

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... sooooooo much sperm

Somebody get the Febreeze. The cabbage stench is overwhelming.

Also lock the front door so his brother can't get in. Locks got changed after the Stanford game.

 

[irishnd31]

Somebody get the Febreeze. The cabbage stench is overwhelming.

Also lock the front door so his brother can't get in. Locks got changed after the Stanford game.

You better have lots of Febreeze my friend. Our stench, while overwhelming, is also untamed and thick just like (insert name)'s mom.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Sorry if I was a little too loud and disturbed your alone time...

DAMN KIDS.... GET OFF MY LAWN

 

[NDdomer2]

the one thing absolutely none of us know is how much Pyne has developed or not.

Rees could be getting the absolute max out of him right now.

Everyone wants to point to the fact that all these schools cooled on Pyne and he didnt have actionable offers.

Well that means Rees is currently winning games with a kid no one wanted. That would seem to indicate there was some level of development along the way.

Truth is always in the middle, imo, but to say he "is still not developed" is likely not true.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Well that means Rees is currently winning games with a kid no one wanted. That would seem to indicate there was some level of development along the way.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

the one thing absolutely none of us know is how much Pyne has developed or not.

Rees could be getting the absolute max out of him right now.

Everyone wants to point to the fact that all these schools cooled on Pyne and he didnt have actionable offers.

Well that means Rees is currently winning games with a kid no one wanted. That would seem to indicate there was some level of development along the way.

Truth is always in the middle, imo, but to say he "is still not developed" is likely not true.

Truth is definitely in the middle; it's important to remind ourselves that although he's been rostered for three years, he's only played in 13 games and has only started 7.

I think that means there's plenty of room for him to continue to grow mentally, as we saw on full display in the 2nd half against Navy.

His physical limitations are well noted but the biggest difference between Ian Book in Chapel Hill in '17 and Book in '18/'19 wasn't him putting on a ton of muscle and growing a few inches, it was between the ears.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Rees' early recruiting woes also came trying to attract a kid: (1) to a school where the HC had just recently been on the hot seat and (2) was disengaged as a recruiter, and (3) did not run a pass-oriented offense, and where the QB room (4) had Wimbush, Book, and Jurkovic in front of him…

Blaming Rees for Pyne and Clark seems anachronistic.

The fault of Pyne/Freeman was not getting someone in the offseason. And who knows how that all went down.

 

[ulukinatme]

I think Drew has been coached well, but in the sense he's been coached as a backup. As a backup you're typically not asked to be the guy to win the game, you're the one that has to come off the bench and not lose it. Drew is great in that regard, he's careful with the football, probably too careful. Other than his first pass off the bench against Marshall all of his INTs have come off tipped balls. He may not always see open receivers, but he's also not throwing the ball into an open defender's hands. I think some good points have been made how teams backed away from Drew, we honored the scholarship and we're still finding ways to win with him. He has limitations, but he's stepped up in some big moments as well.

 

[NDRock]

I think Drew has been coached well, but in the sense he's been coached as a backup. As a backup you're typically not asked to be the guy to win the game, you're the one that has to come off the bench and not lose it. Drew is great in that regard, he's careful with the football, probably too careful. Other than his first pass off the bench against Marshall all of his INTs have come off tipped balls. He may not always see open receivers, but he's also not throwing the ball into an open defender's hands. I think some good points have been made how teams backed away from Drew, we honored the scholarship and we're still finding ways to win with him. He has limitations, but he's stepped up in some big moments as well.

Pyne has been the startling QB for 8 games, no idea why he would be “coached as a backup” in any sense.

His biggest problem as of late isn’t that he’s “too careful”, it’s that he won’t take the easy check down to the backs. Holding on too long and taking a sack or chucking downfield. Luckily the rest of the offensive position groups have played well enough to overcome our limitations at QB. Props to those coaches for sure.

 

[Rack Em]

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... sooooooo much sperm

Sorry about that. I told his mom to clean up…

 

[irishnd31]

Sorry about that. I told his mom to clean up…

Well she didn't do that great of a job.......

If she could just get over the taste of ya, this wouldn't be an issue.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Drew Pyne is so unbelievably bad at QB that it's caused me to want Rees to stay longer to see what this offense could be with a legit QB at the helm. I think everyone would have a much different opinion of him if that were the case.

With that said, I'm still annoyed by the lack of getting a transfer this year and how sometimes the offense can be ridiculously stagnant and uninspiring (although, see point about Pyne above). Multiple analysts have backed Rees as a great offensive mind, but I have also heard it mentioned his game planning can be too much for college kids or too difficult to consistently execute (perhaps it was coaches speaking in general and not directed at Rees, I can't remember). Either way, I'm not an expert so won't pretend to opine on that specifically. As an armchair fan, it's usually a gut feeling that thinks "man, what the F is happening out there today?" but as we all know, too many variables are at play and it's not just on Rees. Which is why I want to see what he can do with legit QB. Personally, I hope he stays and we get to see the best of Rees when all these young guys from 21, 22, and 23 have taken over the starting spots.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Egon: Tommy Rees, born 1992.

Peter Venkman: Notre Dame OC, he hung in there, didn't he?

Ray: He wasn't adored by the fanbase. He was poisoned, stabbed, shot, hung, stretched, disembowled, drawn and quartered.

Peter Venkman: Ouch.

Winston: Guess he wasn't too popular at the end, huh?

Egon: No, not exactly a man of the people. Also known as Tommy the Cruel, Tommy the Torturer, Tommy the Despised, and Tommy the Unholy.

Peter Venkman: Wasn't he also Tommy the Butch?