From my experience they come down once every two years, stay overnight in Chicago, and mill around the tailgating lots complaining about the weather but are mostly polite. Then they leave.
I guess you are dealing with the alums that can afford the trip... I'm talking about experiences growing up with these damn hood rats in LA... if they aren't super obnoxious bandwagon fans they are stealing your hubcaps or trying to sell dime bags for forty.
Probably some truth to this, I've been to several USC home games and they haven't been awful. My family and I had a solid tailgate going in 2015 and we saw these two USC fans pull up in a Prius sitting on the bumper of their car drinking a beer. It was such a sad sight we invited them over for some food and a cigar, and they stuck around for a while. They were pleasant enough and gracious that we invited them to join us.
If the Raiders ever win another Super Bowl Cali might explode and fall into the ocean,…
ND fan from the Northeast here.
OSU and Michigan are 1A and 1B as far as I am concerned. I can't differentiate between the two fan bases. And, Penn State is up there for me too, right after USC, but that's probably just a product of where I live.
I think its more
I agree generally,… when SC is rolling,…. They jump way up
OSU fans are way up there as well, but at least they've had more recent success in the last two decades to back up their obnoxious behavior. That's not justifying their actions, but scUM has been largely irrelevant since the late 90s and early 00s, until the past two years. Even that seems fake with their charmin soft schedule, further boosted by Penn State and Sparty being down this year.
Clemson is way less obnoxious than Michigan. ScUM fans are really aggressive in Ann Arbor. Miami had some aggressive fans too in my interactions. UGA fans are like Clemson in their unjustified arrogance, but they are definitely a barbecue and cocktail party fan base when it comes down to it
I went to the Big House with my dad when I was 13 or 14, and I'm walking by some of the houses on the way to the big house. We're obviously wearing our ND gear so we had been heckled quite a bit that day. As we're walking along, I finally hear someone yell "hey, go Irish!" so I got excited and looked over onto their lawn...a middle aged man wearing a Desmond Howard jersey sees he got my attention and says: "Fuck the Irish" and proceeds to throw a 3/4 full beer at me.
Gotta admit I have never had that kind of interaction with any fan base. That is a prime A Dick right there. I was talking more about being able to have a civil conversation about football without degrading into insults. I had a Clemson fan actually look at me and say "can you at least admit that Clemson will win 5 more Championships before ND". They were being dead serious and that is the mentality of most of the Clemson fans I run into. They act like football didn't exist before Dabo.
Yeah that's asinine. Like I said, every fan base including ND has some bad eggs. scUM fans are pretty pompous; they'll make fun of us for playing Navy (even though they play one of EMU/CMU/WMU every year), but as soon as they get Air Force or Army on their schedule they talk about how rough it is to defend the option, players get hurt, etc. Hypocrites. And then there's the classic "Join a conference and then you can talk." yet you look at their non-conference schedule this year. Joke.
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we'd have to jump 6 more spots to do so; if USC beats UCLA, and we beat USC, I think we likely jump both schools. We would also likely jump the loser of UNC/Clemson since we beat both; We'd also likely hop KSU and Washington in a 9-3 scenario. That's only 5 (and assuming USC beats UCLA, otherwise we likely don't jump UCLA and that's only 4).
Right now ND is behind 5 PAC teams. Assuming ND wins out, I would expect a fair amount of carnage remaining in the PAC to drop some of them back (let's say 3 of them). Plus, an undefeated ND will pass the loser of Clemson/UNC.
That seems correct to me. UCF/Tulane looking poised to grab one of those at large spots.
Technicality, but can't count UNC; UNC was unranked when we beat them and BYU and 'Cuse were ranked when we beat them, so you can't have your cake and eat it too. I think the proper way to look at it is who was ranked at the time.
Penn State is the real problem. I don't see them losing another game - they have rutgers and sparty left.
If ND gets into the NY6 then by far the most likely opponent is a G5 team. OTOH, if they miss the NY6 there is a good chance they end up in the Gator Bowl against Alabama because Tennessee, UGA, and LSU might all be headed to NY6 games.
Lol,… that would totally be my dumb ass luck. Although, would Bama be locked into this bowl contract wise??
