'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

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Who is naming him the favorite?
FWIW Ari Wasserman had a whole long column in The Athletic last night about how Dillingham is THE guy to finally bring Arizona State up to its massive potential, as opposed to the bigger-name retreads they've hired in recent years. (Not sure but I think Wasserman went there or at least is from Arizona. The whole thing was you need a dynamic young coach who actually gets Arizona.)
 

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FWIW Ari Wasserman had a whole long column in The Athletic last night about how Dillingham is THE guy to finally bring Arizona State up to its massive potential, as opposed to the bigger-name retreads they've hired in recent years. (Not sure but I think Wasserman went there or at least is from Arizona. The whole thing was you need a dynamic young coach who actually gets Arizona.)
I read it. It was his own opinion about WHY ASU should hire Dillingham, but I don't know that having read it I came away with the impression that "Dillingham is the favorite."

The important piece of it is that there could also be an athletic director change coming and the current A.D. might not be the one making the hire.
 

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FWIW Ari Wasserman had a whole long column in The Athletic last night about how Dillingham is THE guy to finally bring Arizona State up to its massive potential, as opposed to the bigger-name retreads they've hired in recent years. (Not sure but I think Wasserman went there or at least is from Arizona. The whole thing was you need a dynamic young coach who actually gets Arizona.)
He went to Arizona but your point is a good one. He knows that area & those schools well. ASU had a chance to tab Napier as their HC but opted for Edwards in hopes that Napier would be OC. Probably didn’t help that the person making the hire was Edwards former agent. Multiply this by a million and you see how local/state/federal jobs are handed out and end up as a shitshow more often than not.
 

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He went to Arizona but your point is a good one. He knows that area & those schools well. ASU had a chance to tab Napier as their HC but opted for Edwards in hopes that Napier would be OC. Probably didn’t help that the person making the hire was Edwards former agent. Multiply this by a million and you see how local/state/federal jobs are handed out and end up as a shitshow more often than not.
Sorry, didn’t mean to imply he’s the favorite…just a potential candidate.
I see why he is a candidate for sure. I think he'd have to make a veteran DC hire right out of the gate.

I do think he'll have competition for the job, though. That's a job that someone like Harsin would probably want and likely do very well with. The guy at BYU probably isn't going anywhere, but you probably want to call and make sure if you are ASU.

The situation with athletic director is the wild card here. That needs sorted first. If they bring in a new A.D. then there is probably a better understanding of what direction they go.
 

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"As for where Michigan State plans to go from here, sources tell me that several targets will emerge and the staff won't limit themselves. With that said, I'm hearing that MSU will begin by going to great lengths to attempt to flip 2023 five-star QB Dante Moore"
I read this as we should begin crootin’ Bo Edmundson.
 

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" Michigan State's staff personally felt that Notre Dame was considerably ahead of the pack

In other words, the MSU staff felt that taking the next best QB on their board (Edmundson) was better than missing
out on both. After all, the situation that the Spartans feared is exactly what happened to Notre Dame, as they turned
away star QB target Christopher Vizzina in favor of Moore. Well, Vizzina quickly chose Clemson upon ND making that
decision, but Moore later chose Oregon. That sequence of events has left ND without a 2023 QB commit. "



- This just blows my mind, it's nearly criminal that TR is still on the side of the road hat in hand. At FING NOTRE DAME
 

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" Michigan State's staff personally felt that Notre Dame was considerably ahead of the pack

In other words, the MSU staff felt that taking the next best QB on their board (Edmundson) was better than missing
out on both. After all, the situation that the Spartans feared is exactly what happened to Notre Dame, as they turned

away star QB target Christopher Vizzina in favor of Moore. Well, Vizzina quickly chose Clemson upon ND making that
decision, but Moore later chose Oregon. That sequence of events has left ND without a 2023 QB commit. "



- This just blows my mind, it's nearly criminal that TR is still on the side of the road hat in hand. At FING NOTRE DAME
ThInD aNd LeMmInG aRe LiArS! tOmMy BoY iS sO sMaRt AnD wOuLd NeVeR dO tHaT!
 

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ThInD aNd LeMmInG aRe LiArS! tOmMy BoY iS sO sMaRt AnD wOuLd NeVeR dO tHaT!

No one has ever denied we stopped recruiting Vizzina. You got push back on roping Jackson Arnold into it, yet again.This is the problem with hating Rees with every post made is you can’t even keep straight when you’re in the right versus wrong.
 

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No one has ever denied we stopped recruiting Vizzina. You got push back on roping Jackson Arnold into it, yet again.This is the problem with hating Rees with every post made is you can’t even keep straight when you’re in the right versus wrong.
Was Lemming lying about Arnold? I just don't understand what he would gain from doing that. As I've posted before, he mentioned Vizzina in the same sentence as Arnold during an interview over the summer.
 

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Was Lemming lying about Arnold? I just don't understand what he would gain from doing that. As I've posted before, he mentioned Vizzina in the same sentence as Arnold during an interview over the summer.

Lying, misinformed, doesn’t really matter. Lemming is not a beat reporter. Multiple actual reports have been referenced to correct the information relayed by myself and others here, others you can surely trust more than me if you want.
 

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I hate how much we have to constantly remind people that Moore committed to the staff so of course they notified other players they had been recruiting (Vizzina) and then they made a decision off of that. They weren't going to push for a second five star QB and be able to keep the one they thought they already had.

Moore screwed ND. Period.

Arnold committed to OU while ND was still recruiting him. Period.
 

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I hate how much we have to constantly remind people that Moore committed to the staff so of course they notified other players they had been recruiting (Vizzina) and then they made a decision off of that. They weren't going to push for a second five star QB and be able to keep the one they thought they already had.

Moore screwed ND. Period.

Arnold committed to OU while ND was still recruiting him. Period.

Maybe, but it was never FACEBOOK OFFICIAL, so ND should have keept the bed warm for CV and others. If CV or JA wanted to commit (hypothetically), you call DM and say, Make it official or we are moving on... Today
 

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Maybe, but it was never FACEBOOK OFFICIAL, so ND should have keept the bed warm for CV and others. If CV or JA wanted to commit (hypothetically), you call DM and say, Make it official or we are moving on... Today
Hopefully Freeman can learn from this and he, and whoever our next OC is, won't make the same mistake again going forward.
 

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I don't know how you avoid kids making a decision to commit and then not keeping with the plan. The same could have happened if he committed publicly.

It was a situation of he was down to come to ND but then "guaranteed money" was a bit more enticing. Not the only kid we had this happen to in this class.
 

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So the whole processing Edmundson and putting all their eggs in the Moore basket has to have something behind it right.

Seems like you would keep the bird in hand until you upgraded, not ditch then hope.
 

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I hate how much we have to constantly remind people that Moore committed to the staff so of course they notified other players they had been recruiting (Vizzina) and then they made a decision off of that. They weren't going to push for a second five star QB and be able to keep the one they thought they already had.

Moore screwed ND. Period.

Arnold committed to OU while ND was still recruiting him. Period.
ND screwed themselves here. You can't blame a kid for his family.
 

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I hate how much we have to constantly remind people that Moore committed to the staff so of course they notified other players they had been recruiting (Vizzina) and then they made a decision off of that. They weren't going to push for a second five star QB and be able to keep the one they thought they already had.

Moore screwed ND. Period.

Arnold committed to OU while ND was still recruiting him. Period.
I thought they would’ve learned their lesson last year with Walker. But, I guess not. If a kid isn’t comfortable enough to go public, or shut things down, then don’t stop recruiting the most important position in the sport.

Maybe, after being burned a second time, they’ll learn the lesson.
 

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I don't know how you avoid kids making a decision to commit and then not keeping with the plan. The same could have happened if he committed publicly.

It was a situation of he was down to come to ND but then "guaranteed money" was a bit more enticing. Not the only kid we had this happen to in this class.
I also think people need to remember the context. He was visiting and seemingly our coaching staff thought he was going to commit, but literally a week before, Nico Iamaleava broke college football recruiting with his $8 million contract with Tennessee.

Everything changed in Moore's recruitment......because everything changed in recruiting in general.
 

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Moore gave his silent so they would back off Vizzina. He essentially reserved his spot knowing in private he wasnt done with the process in the slightest. He’s not an innocent bystander, nor is Keon Keeley.
Moore's decisions are being made by his father though. He could still be naive but his father is the one pulling the strings and trying to benefit financially
 

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Moore's decisions are being made by his father though. He could still be naive but his father is the one pulling the strings and trying to benefit financially

Idk. Dante would have had to lie to Rees, Bowden, Freeman, other commits on an almost daily basis for months. Kinda hard to do completely innocent. I’m not buying the “Dante wants to be here” innocent thing. I think the ND beat was just trying to be nice to the kid.
 

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You can't blame a kid for his family.

Oh I can though.

Moore is to blame for going back on his word and misleading a group of coaches that had been making him a priority for months, and for taking another kid's spot.
Moore's family is to blame for steering him that way.
The ND staff is to blame for acting like this is their first rodeo, closing down other promising recruitments, and generally putting way too much faith in Moore on the front end and sticking to it after the writing was on the wall.
Rees is to blame for us having one of the worst QB rooms in big boy college football.
 

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Oh I can though.

Moore is to blame for going back on his word and misleading a group of coaches that had been making him a priority for months, and for taking another kid's spot.
Moore's family is to blame for steering him that way.
The ND staff is to blame for acting like this is their first rodeo, closing down other promising recruitments, and generally putting way too much faith in Moore on the front end and sticking to it after the writing was on the wall.
Rees is to blame for us having one of the worst QB rooms in big boy college football.
ND putting all the time and effort into recruiting a kid from inner city Detroit, a high school with probably zero admissions to ND in the last 20 years, a shady family around him, in the heart of enemy territory (SCUM)...c'mon now ND knew what they getting into
 
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