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ACamp1900 said:
Anyone have a movie most people just love that you can’t stand??? I don’t like Tim Burton generally but edward scissor hands is stupid even by his standards,… the love and fasciation that movie gets befuddles me. also, all my college buds love Death to Smoochie,… jeebus I hate that film
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I'll take the heat on some real classic movie hot takes:

The Shining is mediocre as a thiller, isn't scary enough to be a horror, and is one of Kubrick's weakest film. I think people want it to be a great movie due to some iconic shots more than it is one.

North by Northwest starts off funny/interesting but I'm bored halfway through everytime. The master of suspense kills his own movie.

Saying "I enjoy gangster movies like The Godfather and Scarface" is like saying "I enjoy food like filet mignon and dogshit." That C- movie shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as The Godfather movies or Goodfellas. It's the taco bell of gangster flicks. Good enough when it's late and your drunk, but not actually good.

If not for a fun last 30 minutes, The Temple of Doom would be worse than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It's terrible for the first 1:30.

Bladerunner 2049 is better than the original. It's not even close.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
I'll take the heat on some real classic movie hot takes:

The Shining is mediocre as a thiller, isn't scary enough to be a horror, and is one of Kubrick's weakest film. I think people want it to be a great movie due to some iconic shots more than it is one.

North by Northwest starts off funny/interesting but I'm bored halfway through everytime. The master of suspense kills his own movie.

Saying "I enjoy gangster movies like The Godfather and Scarface" is like saying "I enjoy food like filet mignon and dogshit." That C- movie shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as The Godfather movies or Goodfellas. It's the taco bell of gangster flicks. Good enough when it's late and your drunk, but not actually good.

If not for a fun last 30 minutes, The Temple of Doom would be worse than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It's terrible for the first 1:30.

Bladerunner 2049 is better than the original. It's not even close.
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I agree on Scarface totally but you are a terrible person for the Shining and I hate you.....
 
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greyhammer90 said:
Bladerunner 2049 is better than the original. It's not even close.
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I think you might be right, but it’s close IMO. Both are masterpieces. I think the OG might be the pinnacle of practical effects. The atmosphere of that movie is a 10/10.
 
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I think you might be right, but it’s close IMO. Both are masterpieces. I think the OG might be the pinnacle of practical effects. The atmosphere of that movie is a 10/10.
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Effects are definitely top tier, but the noir atmosphere was lost when the robot clown started doing gymnastics. Plus every version of the movie is compromised in some way, you're either dealing with Harrison Ford giving bad voice over work or Ridley Scott not understanding his own movie and adding dumb breadcrumbs for the bad ending he wanted. The OG does have Rutger Hauer giving a GOAT performance, but he's the only thing better than the sequel IMO.
 
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I just recently saw the first Bladerunner and,... wasn't my kind of movie I guess,... my desire to see another is just about zero.
 
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ACamp1900 said:
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Lol the movie you saw is famously bad. The studio notoriously butchered Bladerunner before it came out because they were afraid audiences wouldn't get it. They added a bunch of voiceover work to explain the plot, changed the editing, changed the ending, etc.

If you thought "holy crap Ford's voiceover sucks!" that's because he was so against doing it that he purposely did it badly hoping they wouldn't use it. They did anyway.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
Lol the movie you saw is famously bad. The studio notoriously butchered Bladerunner before it came out because they were afraid audiences wouldn't get it. They added a bunch of voiceover work to explain the plot, changed the editing, changed the ending, etc.

If you thought "holy crap Ford's voiceover sucks!" that's because he was so against doing it that he purposely did it badly hoping they wouldn't use it. They did anyway.
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What is the 'good' version of the original?
 
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What is the 'good' version of the original?
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Most consider the best to be the "Final Cut" but even that has issues for reasons that are spoilery if you've not seen it. Suffice to say, after making the movie Scott pulled a George Lucas and changed his mind on some things and got really obsessed with putting in a dumb twist that really doesnt make sense. So basically seeing OG Bladerunner is always a compromised experience. But it is still a WAY better movie than the one ACamp watched.

The amount of people who watch that version who are unaware of it's reputation and say "I guess it was Ok?" afterward because there's a social pressure to not trash the OG Bladerunner is vast lol.
 
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Fun note for ACamp, the changed ending for the theatrical version of Bladerunner where they just drive off into the lush countryside (so bad) uses unused landscape footage from *drumroll* ...

The Shining!
 
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Top Gun. The most corny, clichéd, predictable, mindless cinematic drivel ever filmed. It's like an SNL spoof of an action/adventure movie. It makes Scooby Doo look cerebral. It's like Flying Leathernecks, but for retarded kids. I'd rather watch Pauley Shore teach a chimp to square dance than watch Top Gun. At the end after Maverick saves the world and he and Iceman are suddenly like, "Wow Iceman, you're really cool after all!" and, "No Maverick, you're the coolest! Let's be bros!" I really want to see Iceman throat punch that fuckin' Tom Cruise, pants him, and pass him around to all the lonely sailors on the carrier. I hate that corny ass movie that much. Cool planes though.
 
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Bishop2b5 said:
Top Gun. The most corny, clichéd, predictable, mindless cinematic drivel ever filmed. It's like an SNL spoof of an action/adventure movie. It makes Scooby Doo look cerebral. It's like Flying Leathernecks, but for retarded kids. I'd rather watch Pauley Shore teach a chimp to square dance than watch Top Gun. At the end after Maverick saves the world and he and Iceman are suddenly like, "Wow Iceman, you're really cool after all!" and, "No Maverick, you're the coolest! Let's be bros!" I really want to see Iceman throat punch that fuckin' Tom Cruise, pants him, and pass him around to all the lonely sailors on the carrier. I hate that corny ass movie that much. Cool planes though.
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You've been on this website repping the SEC for nearly 10(!) years...

And a terrible Top Gun take is what finally got you banned. I hope shitting on an American masterpiece was worth it.
 
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greyhammer90 said:
Fun note for ACamp, the changed ending for the theatrical version of Bladerunner where they just drive off into the lush countryside (so bad) uses unused landscape footage from *drumroll* ...

The Shining!
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we just watched what Netflix ( or whatever it was on) gave us 🤷‍♂️
 
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I wanna slap people who talk about Dark Knight Rises being one of the better films ever,… and yes these people exist... I have seen them in the daylight,… That movie was bad by comic book film standards, let alone actual good movies
 
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greyhammer90 said:
Most consider the best to be the "Final Cut" but even that has issues for reasons that are spoilery if you've not seen it. Suffice to say, after making the movie Scott pulled a George Lucas and changed his mind on some things and got really obsessed with putting in a dumb twist that really doesnt make sense. So basically seeing OG Bladerunner is always a compromised experience. But it is still a WAY better movie than the one ACamp watched.

The amount of people who watch that version who are unaware of it's reputation and say "I guess it was Ok?" afterward because there's a social pressure to not trash the OG Bladerunner is vast lol.
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It's even worse than Lucas because Scott didn't write the source material. Basically everyone involved, including the author of the short story Blade Runner was adapted from, told Ridley Scott that his idea was stupid.
 
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IrishLion said:
You've been on this website repping the SEC for nearly 10(!) years...

And a terrible Top Gun take is what finally got you banned. I hope shitting on an American masterpiece was worth it.
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At the very least a temp ban worthy effort on his part….

In all seriousness I enjoy bishop!! Just a horrible cinematic take…. Sorry bishop.
 
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irishnd31 said:
Yeah. I think expected a movie like 300. Kinda feel like i barely got 100.
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I liked Northman, LOVED VVitch and hated the lighthouse with the power of a thousand lighthouses…

I’m hopefully for Nosferatu for sure tho
 
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I have a soft spot for Ridley Scott because I think he explores really deep and rich subjects and he always gives reverence to the entirety of the issues he engages with.
 
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