'23 FL RB Sedrick Irvin Jr (Stanford Verbal)

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I thought I replied to Cack and somehow his reply and my message were deleted? Am I dreaming this?
No. I deleted my post and the you replied to the post I deleted. Didn’t want to keep piling on so I deleted both. There is an option to explain to the user why it was deleted and I do so. I put a message in there explaining why I did it but you must not have gotten it. I’ll ask clashmore about that. Sorry.
 

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I am Tweed24, Nobody told you off. The way you came at me and tried to bully me into giving up information was madd disrespectful. I never cursed at you, I never disrespected you or nothing. Like Why would I come here and just make up information?
 

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I am not here to defend ND or Sed. Nor here to say who was right and whos lying. But on the topic of him as a player

With all due respect... He isn't that good..
 

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At this point I no longer care what the staff did.
I never did. I trust Freeman handled it well. CFB is a messy sport, and at times things have to happen to be successful. I truly wish Sed well. He seems like a good kid.
 

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Hmmm joined only yesterday, defending Tweed, similar writing styles, same mysterious sources...
We've seen many posters have a close tie to a recruit, but two posters to the same recruit? Don't remember that happening.
 

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Tweed = JerryRice = “according to those at the school”

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In all/some seriousness I think Mr. Irvin going on record about puts this to rest.
 

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The article shares alot of insight I went to the spring game. Sed had 13 carries 113 yards and 2 TDs.
Thanks for posting the article as well as contributing to the board with details beforehand.

And if you see Mr. Irvin Sr. again at the cigar shop tell him I appreciated his words in the article. His perspective and honesty is refreshing in a world where everyone wants to be a victim. I feel that he approaches it with both an honest disappointment of the staff and school, but also an appreciation that it can bring more out of Sed Jr. at the same time. While he may have ill feelings about it all, I know that Sed is going to do great things in life with guidance like that.

I like Sed a lot. As a player and person. And I also hope like some others that this doesn't end up being a bad decision.
 

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I hope he ends up at Louisville with Lance Taylor. I can at least root for him whenever he's not playing ND.

Stanford, on the other hand...
 

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Thanks for posting the article as well as contributing to the board with details beforehand.

And if you see Mr. Irvin Sr. again at the cigar shop tell him I appreciated his words in the article. His perspective and honesty is refreshing in a world where everyone wants to be a victim. I feel that he approaches it with both an honest disappointment of the staff and school, but also an appreciation that it can bring more out of Sed Jr. at the same time. While he may have ill feelings about it all, I know that Sed is going to do great things in life with guidance like that.

I like Sed a lot. As a player and person. And I also hope like some others that this doesn't end up being a bad decision.


You are exactly right, More motivation and playing with a chip on his shoulder. He will be fine where ever he chooses to go. It was disappointing but its part of life.
 

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Not sure I get it. How many times has a position coach change cost a school a commit let alone a HC switch? It has to work both ways. You cant have kids leaving schools at the altar on signing day yet if the school switch ideas six months prior to signing day all of a sudden the school is the devil? I mean, if ND kept the kid on and come Nov he decided to go to Stanford, it would be under the "swing and a miss on a 4 star RB" headline for ND. Like I said, it has to work both ways.
 

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Not sure I get it. How many times has a position coach change cost a school a commit let alone a HC switch? It has to work both ways. You cant have kids leaving schools at the altar on signing day yet if the school switch ideas six months prior to signing day all of a sudden the school is the devil? I mean, if ND kept the kid on and come Nov he decided to go to Stanford, it would be under the "swing and a miss on a 4 star RB" headline for ND. Like I said, it has to work both ways.

While I do agree 99.9% of the time, in this case, ND was THE Dream school apparently. Had to be quite the blow. Not that it matters, but I think ND should have left it up to the kids to make the choice.
 

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Not sure I get it. How many times has a position coach change cost a school a commit let alone a HC switch? It has to work both ways. You cant have kids leaving schools at the altar on signing day yet if the school switch ideas six months prior to signing day all of a sudden the school is the devil? I mean, if ND kept the kid on and come Nov he decided to go to Stanford, it would be under the "swing and a miss on a 4 star RB" headline for ND. Like I said, it has to work both ways.
In theory it works this way, but the reality is one side is a 17-18 year old kid who made a commitment and was going to keep it regardless of the coaching change. He obviously made a commitment to the university, not the coach. In such a scenario the kid is typically choosing a "plan B" or worse by being forced to reopen recruiting. This is why I feel like the scholarship should have been honored.

On the flip side you have a top university that can and always does absorb the blow when a recruit does decide to change course. They arguably get hurt the least when a decommitment happens, it rarely ever changes their plans that drastically unless the position has really been recruited poorly in previous years (See WR for us).

Obviously it's a little different if the kid is the one reopening the recruitment, but unless it's in the 11th hour chances are the university is going to recover from it just fine because it's one kid compared to an entire roster. Choosing a college is a big commitment. You'd like every kid to honor that commitment, but circumstances change and what's best for the kid should come before what's best for the university. In theory it should work two ways like you say, but one side has way more resources and capabilities to recover from a decommitment. For a university losing one player is like one small cog in a big machine that keeps running regardless. For a kid it can change everything.
 

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While I do agree 99.9% of the time, in this case, ND was THE Dream school apparently. Had to be quite the blow. Not that it matters, but I think ND should have left it up to the kids to make the choice.
So there's one line in that story that has me scratching my chin.
"The Miami native, who had been committed since September 2021, had his offer all but pulled by the new Irish coaching staff, now under the command of Marcus Freeman. "

"All but." That could cover a lot of ground. Clearly, we were recruiting over him. And it seems clear that the transfer from Indiana was an issue. But did we say he was no longer at take? Or that we saw him at the bottom of the depth chart but he could come if he wanted? Or that he could maybe try his hand at corner? Who knows. And we'll only ever hear one side of the story, that of his dad who acknowledges here that ND was never that high on dad's list.

Also the fact that they never talked to Sed still seems off. I dunno what to make of that but given what we know of Freeman and McCullough it seems out of character.

Anyway, it's too bad, for all involved. His dad's been around and seems to have the right perspective on the business side of this stuff. Hopefully Sed lands somewhere good and goes on to a lucrative and healthy career in college football and beyond.
 

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You can publicly decommit now or not, but not going to receive a NLI regardless when the time comes.

That’d be my guess. Piecing together stuff here + how Nickel was handled.
 

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In all/some seriousness I think Mr. Irvin going on record about puts this to rest.
Puts what to rest? There was nothing in that article that confirmed ND pulled his scholarship. There are a lot of things one can do short of that to incentivize a decommitment.
So there's one line in that story that has me scratching my chin.
"The Miami native, who had been committed since September 2021, had his offer all but pulled by the new Irish coaching staff, now under the command of Marcus Freeman. "
Exactly. Enough weasel words in there to make it seem like ND pulled his scholarship without ever coming out and saying it.
You can publicly decommit now or not, but not going to receive a NLI regardless when the time comes.

That’d be my guess. Piecing together stuff here + how Nickel was handled.
I don't think that's a reasonable assumption. But you immediately assumed the worst about our coaching staff here from the get-go, which is why people got upset with you.
 
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Whiskey I don’t have the energy for a debate for no reason. Read the quotes or not, read the pay sites or not as you want to read them.
 

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He got him to de-commit."

Enough weasel words in there to make it seem like ND pulled his scholarship without ever coming out and saying it.
You’re not even reading correctly here boss. He’s still talking about Payne here, of whom he spoke about in the prior sentence.
 
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