ND Coaching Search Megathread

[dad4aa]

It's a no-brainer for economic reasons. Time is money. To the extent ND needs to fly its employees around the empire recruiting athletes (not just football!), it makes sense to do it on a jet owned by the University so they can get in and out quickly on their own schedule.

I agree with this but you have several coaches traveling all over the country at the same time. Should they be part of a private jet group where they have several at their disposal when needed but don’t actually own them with maybe having one they own?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I agree with this but you have several coaches traveling all over the country at the same time. Should they be part of a private jet group where they have several at their disposal when needed but don’t actually own them with maybe having one they own?

Yes, and I think that's actually a common arrangement. There are third party companies who own, maintain, and crew the jets. Large organizations contract with them for availability.

 

[dad4aa]

Yes, and I think that's actually a common arrangement. There are third party companies who own, maintain, and crew the jets. Large organizations contract with them for availability.

Have a friend who is a pilot for one out of Elkhart. Hopefully they do something like that

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Have a friend who is a pilot for one out of Elkhart. Hopefully they do something like that

Actually owning a jet is a huge pain in the ass. The smart move is to let someone else manage that headache.

 

[Irish#1]

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Kid's got the world by the balls.

 

[Luckylucci]

Kelly's contract said only 50 hours of use per year right? That doesn't even seem like that much. Maybe it is when you don't have to leave a 4 state area.

I took that has 50 hours of personal use. So, if him and the family want to take a trip or something like that. I don't think recruiting trips factor into that.

 

[Rogue219]

Actually owning a jet is a huge pain in the ass. The smart move is to let someone else manage that headache.

I'll have to take your word for it.

 

[IrishBoognish]

I took that has 50 hours of personal use. So, if him and the family want to take a trip or something like that. I don't think recruiting trips factor into that.

Its a weird number.

50 hours a year for personal use/vacations etc. is one hell of a lot and would be a crazy perk. Roughly the equivalent of 6 New York to LA round trips. If he was vacationing that much a year... we sure as shit didn't want him around.

50 hours a year total for recruiting is not much.

 

[NDdomer2]

Its a weird number.

50 hours a year for personal use/vacations etc. is one hell of a lot and would be a crazy perk. Roughly the equivalent of 6 New York to LA round trips. If he was vacationing that much a year... we sure as shit didn't want him around.

50 hours a year total for recruiting is not much.

exactly i didnt understand it. is it he has unlimited and those 50 hours are for staff? Still not a lot.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I'll have to take your word for it.

I've got some very wealthy clients. Planes are expensive, high-maintenance vehicles that are very difficult to utilize efficiently. Better to leave all it to a business that's fully dedicated to doing only that.

 

[MNIrishman]

I agree with this but you have several coaches traveling all over the country at the same time. Should they be part of a private jet group where they have several at their disposal when needed but don’t actually own them with maybe having one they own?

The most economic thing if I were in Swarbrick's shoes would likely be to buy a small fleet of low-cost single-engine turboprops. Thinking TBM 940, Pilatus PC-12, or Epic E1000. These have operating costs in the range of $500-$1000/hr compared with $5000-$15000/hr for rented private jets. They're a little bit slower in the air but they have far more access to small fields that are closer to small towns so it evens out, and from South Bend only the TBM wouldn't have the range to reach any part of the country in one leg. You could buy and maintain four of these for less than the cost of a private jet and your marginal cost per flight is extremely low so there's strong motivation to actually use the things instead of debating whether attending a recruit's Friday football game is worth $20k to the university.

This solution is so obvious I don't really know why a university wouldn't do it other than that single-engine turboprops don't have the "cool factor."

 

[Rogue219]

I've got some very wealthy clients. Planes are expensive, high-maintenance vehicles that are very difficult to utilize efficiently. Better to leave all it to a business that's fully dedicated to doing only that.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person I know that doesn't have one.

Born on second base.

 

[NDdomer2]

I've got some very wealthy clients. Planes are expensive, high-maintenance vehicles that are very difficult to utilize efficiently. Better to leave all it to a business that's fully dedicated to doing only that.

we had a client in my early years of public accounting that one of the owners decided instead of paying for his flying he wanted to own a plan and would start a company up that provides charters as well. they sold the planes rather quickly after losing their ass on maintenance costs.

 

[irishog77]

I've got some very wealthy clients. Planes are expensive, high-maintenance vehicles that are very difficult to utilize efficiently. Better to leave all it to a business that's fully dedicated to doing only that.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

we had a client in my early years of public accounting that one of the owners decided instead of paying for his flying he wanted to own a plan and would start a company up that provides charters as well. they sold the planes rather quickly after losing their ass on maintenance costs.

One of my best friends from high school is a principal in a hedge fund that buys struggling regional airlines, straightens them out, and them IPOs then within 3-5 years for huge multipliers. Successfully making money in the airline industry is incredibly challenging.

 

[Rogue219]

Watch Saban get a spaceship next week.

 

[IrishBoognish]

The most economic thing if I were in Swarbrick's shoes would likely be to buy a small fleet of low-cost single-engine turboprops. Thinking TBM 940, Pilatus PC-12, or Epic E1000. These have operating costs in the range of $500-$1000/hr compared with $5000-$15000/hr for rented private jets. They're a little bit slower in the air but they have far more access to small fields that are closer to small towns so it evens out, and from South Bend only the TBM wouldn't have the range to reach any part of the country in one leg. You could buy and maintain four of these for less than the cost of a private jet and your marginal cost per flight is extremely low so there's strong motivation to actually use the things instead of debating whether attending a recruit's Friday football game is worth $20k to the university.

This solution is so obvious I don't really know why a university wouldn't do it other than that single-engine turboprops don't have the "cool factor."

I think TBMs are super cool. But youre right.

 

[ACamp1900]

I've got some very wealthy clients.

Whiskey is the real life version of Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman confirmed

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Watch Saban get a spaceship next week.

You joke, but his contract is reportedly full of accelerators like that.

"Kelly just got a 9-figure contract at LSU; time for a big raise, Nick."

"Those papists in Indiana are recruiting off private jets now? Let's get Virgin Galactic on the phone. Bet recruits would like to receive their offer via video call from Nick.... in space."

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Whiskey is the real life version of Julia Roberts from Pretty Woman confirmed

As I'm sure the other attorneys here can attest, prostitute metaphors are depressingly on point many days.

 

[irishog77]

As I'm sure the other attorneys here can attest, prostitute metaphors are depressingly on point many days.

When does the Whiskey & Rack 'Em Personal Injury Lawyers finally open for business?

 

[Rogue219]

You joke, but his contract is reportedly full of accelerators like that.

"Kelly just got a 9-figure contract at LSU; time for a big raise, Nick."

"Those papists in Indiana are recruiting off private jets now? Let's get Virgin Galactic on the phone. Bet recruits would like to receive their offer via video call from Nick.... in space."

I was half kidding. Just don't know which half.

Nothing surprises me anymore. I'm baffled at society's priorities these days.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Yes, and I think that's actually a common arrangement. There are third party companies who own, maintain, and crew the jets. Large organizations contract with them for availability.

Not only are there these types of organizations, but an ND alum and BoT member owns one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenn_Ricci

 

[AlaskanIrish]

As I'm sure the other attorneys here can attest, prostitute metaphors are depressingly on point many days.

Hear, hear!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

When does the Whiskey & Rack 'Em Personal Injury Lawyers finally open for business?

Dewey, Cheatham & Howe, PC

 

[Bishop2b5]

Watch Saban get a spaceship next week.

Next week? You really think we spend all the TV money on facilities??? There's more going on at the Mercedes plant just outside T-Town than SUV's, sir. Nick's had a spaceship since 2018.

 

[GowerND11]

Its a weird number.

50 hours a year for personal use/vacations etc. is one hell of a lot and would be a crazy perk. Roughly the equivalent of 6 New York to LA round trips. If he was vacationing that much a year... we sure as shit didn't want him around.

50 hours a year total for recruiting is not much.

His son plays football at Grand Valley State. His daughter is a senior at Notre Dame. He can use that jet to fly up to see them, or fly them down to Baton Rogue too.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'm sure the ship has the highest quality in-flight entertainment for those recruits to view:

 

[Irish#1]

His son plays football at Grand Valley State. His daughter is a senior at Notre Dame. He can use that jet to fly up to see them, or fly them down to Baton Rogue too.

I have a feeling her tuition was taken care of. Now that Kelly's gone you think Jack called the Bursars office and told them to cut an invoice? It's not like he can't afford it, but how funny would that be?

 

[NDBoiler]

Heard a rumor that former ND OL and current KC OL coach Andy Heck may be a candidate for the ND OL coach position. Maybe that would keep the juices flowing on that front.