COVID-19

[Irish#1]

SEC1 SEC1 first in football, last in vaccination:

.44. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,661,298
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.97

45. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,093,544
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.55

46. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 666,444
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.29

47. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,708,955
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.76

48. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 211,609
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.56

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,092,321
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.2

50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,022,667
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.36

51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,677,279
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.21


In the race fior the bottom SEC states dominate, with Idaho and Whoming sneaking in.

Sadly, 9 of the schools are represented by the above states.

Soout Carolina, Texas (A&M), Missouri, Kentucky and Florida are not doing their part!

Perhaps the SEC states can focus more on media day and expansion than on vaccination.

.Life and death?

Or Football?

Football is life or death!

 

[Rogue219]

What a nation of morons we are.

 

[notredomer23]

There are some really good therapeutics in the works, and from my research, the most promising one is a repurposed drug.. AT-527 from Atea Pharmaceuticals in collaboration with Roche is an oral drug that surpassed expectations in a phase 2 trial in shortening hospitalization and phase 3 results are due any day for non-hospitalized patients in preventing hospitalization. It's designed to inhibit viral replication by interfering with viral RNA polymerase.

from the phase 2 PR release:

The interim analysis of the Phase 2 study included data from 70 hospitalized, high-risk patients with COVID-19 of which data from 62 patients were evaluable for virology analysis. Interim virology results indicated that AT-527 rapidly reduced viral load levels. At Day 2, patients receiving AT-527 experienced a 0.7 log[SUB]10[/SUB] (80%) greater mean reduction from baseline viral load as compared to placebo. A sustained difference in viral load reduction was maintained through Day 8.

AT-527’s SARS-CoV-2 potent antiviral activity was also observed in patients with higher baseline viral loads above the median of 5.26 log[SUB]10[/SUB] as compared to placebo. When evaluating a strict RT-qPCR threshold of 500 copies/mL with no detectable ribonucleic acid (RNA) virus (target not detected, TND), the AT-527 arm achieved SARS-CoV-2 clearance as early as Day 2 (in 6% of patients), Day 8 (in 7% of patients) Day 10 (in 33% of patients), and Day 12 (in 31% of patients) compared to 0% of patients in the placebo arm at the same timepoints. By Day 14 (last viral sampling study day) approximately 47% of patients in the AT-527 arm and 22% in the placebo arm had no detectable RNA virus (TND). Nasopharyngeal swabs were measured in a reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction test (RT-qPCR) for the quantitative detection of nucleic acid from SARS-CoV-2.

Consistent with previous studies, AT-527 was generally safe and well tolerated. In this hospitalized study, there were no drug-related serious adverse events. Non-serious adverse events were equally distributed across treatment arms. Most were mild-to-moderate in severity and assessed as not related to the study drug. No safety concerns or newly determined risks were identified.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Just today I found out one of my uncles (unvaccinated) has a very bad lung cancer from smoking but was stable, got Covid from his unvaccinated wife recently and went to ER two days ago. He went downhill quicky and they pulled the plug. He died from a secondary infection that spread rapidly due to his recently developedCOVID related issues. They both house and support my other uncle who is mentally handicapped and has cerebal palsy. He also in unvaccianted (becasue they wouldnt vacciante him) and just got tested and is postivie for COVID as well. His health isnt great as it is so the entire family is fighting witt each other over whether to get him vaccinated. Unbelievable scenes.

ETA. Just found out that the sisters to the uncle that died have now tested postive with COVID becasue they had to take control of my handicapped uncle and he passed it to them.They are vaccinated.

 

[BrownerandFry]

https://www.al.com/news/2021/08/whi...xt-to-alabama-i-hope-america-is-watching.html

FWIW the head ball coach at Alabama, C. Nick Saban has been featured in many "get vaccinated" ads on television for months now.

Good on ya, Nick!

Dumbass Mormon Bryan Harsin, the newbie at Auburn, is not vaccinated. He will be in the rerelease of Laurence J. Peter's book "the Peter Principle." In the words of the great Ron White "You can't fix stupid."

 

[Irish#1]

China's spiraling Delta variant outbreak has reached Wuhan, the original epicenter of the pandemic, prompting citywide coronavirus testing as authorities scramble to contain the city's first reported local infections in more than a year.

China is grappling with its worst outbreak in months, with more than 300 cases detected in more than two dozen cities across the country. The country now has 144 medium- and high-risk areas, the most since the initial outbreak in early 2020, the National Health Commission said Wednesday.

A couple of thoughts. I question the bolded part given China hasn't been willing to share much. I'm still amazed that countries including the U.S. haven't stepped up pressure on China to hold them accountable for not reporting the outbreak much earlier.

 

[NorthDakota]

A couple of thoughts. I question the bolded part given China hasn't been willing to share much. I'm still amazed that countries including the U.S. haven't stepped up pressure on China to hold them accountable for not reporting the outbreak much earlier.

People are always soft on China. It's sad really.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

People are always soft on China. It's sad really.

IMO Its becasue of how dependent we are on their cheap goods and materials. All China has to do is flex on us with some slightly higher goods or taxes and shit gets expensive real quick here.

 

[PerthDomer]

IMO Its becasue of how dependent we are on their cheap goods and materials. All China has to do is flex on us with some slightly higher goods or taxes and shit gets expensive real quick here.

Gas will probably get cheaper. They're in full lockdown everywhere. Their vaccine is crap vs wild type and they have little natural immunity built up. Given their internal politics they can't admit their vaccine is inferior and they can't allow outbreaks... should be interesting if their lockdowns fail.

Also, if they get an india style outbreak they're very likely to spawn a new strain. Which is just great.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I have a few partially-baked opinions/guesses on this (the "partial" here is because one of my degrees is biochemistry and I have sort-of followed some of this virus stuff for years --- don't take the following TOO seriously though and stay being good readers.)

1. This one seems to be very contagious. You don't need a lot of contact to get it. So all the stuff about hand-washing and semi-isolation is good advice. I'm guessing is that this thing "gets" you by ultimately being inhaled or otherwise entering your mouth/lungs. It seems to especially like lungs.

2. Early "returns" MIGHT indicate that this thing is WAY more likely NOT to kill you if you are not an elderly or otherwise weakened human. The bulk of the Washington State deaths (almost all that have occurred in the US in this first penetration) have taken persons from one old persons housing facility. It makes you sick though.

3. The virus outbreak in China seems already slowing down in its growth rate. This COULD mean that sensible behavior can mitigate its spread. If this is true even in the societal chaos that is China, this is cause for optimism.

4. We WILL have growth outbreaks here and there in the world for a while. Reason: we are the stupidest "intelligent species" in the Universe, as we constantly prove. We will also have flare-ups in the US even after we get it "under control". Reason: US citizens have a 45 second attention span and consequent behavioral challenges.

5. We might get the Magic Bullet quicker than the CDC currently guesses. Reason #1: We're genetically smarter in the lab than we've ever been. Past history on times-to-vaccine might not hold. Reason #2: China is involved, and if this thing gets bad, they'll probably do one of their lovely activities --- non-voluntary human testing. Nothing like human testing to speed medical breakthroughs.

Partially-baked advice: Stay in the upper 1% of intelligent behaving humans rather than the "typical irresponsible American" range (lower 20%). Stay alert/educated for a year at least on this. Stay clean. Stay healthy. Don't panic and do dumb things with your money. These things pass. This one will.

Remarka bly prescient and reasonable. Preach,teach more. I will listen.

 

[Irish#1]

IMO Its becasue of how dependent we are on their cheap goods and materials. All China has to do is flex on us with some slightly higher goods or taxes and shit gets expensive real quick here.

Prices are already going up like a NASA Saturn rocket.

 

[T-Boone]

We are back in lockdown in Newcastle Australia. Dang.

 

[Circa]

This new website's great and everything but when i looked up my old conspiracy thread this immediately came up front...
I am pretty sure we all need Julian Assange back on line...
I'm living in Florida, sober...maybe some shrooms and dmt but enough talk about me...the numbers the MSM speak of... are far from truthful. I deal with the public daily and 'Grandma/grandpa' age hoomans aren't wearing masks, and they are for the most part unworried. Life Is awesome down here.
Peace and Love

 

[Ndaccountant]

Just today I found out one of my uncles (unvaccinated) has a very bad lung cancer from smoking but was stable, got Covid from his unvaccinated wife recently and went to ER two days ago. He went downhill quicky and they pulled the plug. He died from a secondary infection that spread rapidly due to his recently developedCOVID related issues. They both house and support my other uncle who is mentally handicapped and has cerebal palsy. He also in unvaccianted (becasue they wouldnt vacciante him) and just got tested and is postivie for COVID as well. His health isnt great as it is so the entire family is fighting witt each other over whether to get him vaccinated. Unbelievable scenes.

ETA. Just found out that the sisters to the uncle that died have now tested postive with COVID becasue they had to take control of my handicapped uncle and he passed it to them.They are vaccinated.

Sorry to hear that. What a terrible situation.

 

[Black Irish]

This new website's great and everything but when i looked up my old conspiracy thread this immediately came up front...
I am pretty sure we all need Julian Assange back on line...
I'm living in Florida, sober...maybe some shrooms and dmt but enough talk about me...the numbers the MSM speak of... are far from truthful. I deal with the public daily and 'Grandma/grandpa' age hoomans aren't wearing masks, and they are for the most part unworried. Life Is awesome down here.
Peace and Love

The MSM likes to beat up on Florida. It seems like every other story I read, even if it's about my area (North NJ, NYC metro), has to rope in how bad FL is doing with new cases and hospitalizations. But there's never any context. Maybe it is that bad. But my questions when I see case and hospitalization are:

-How sick are these people getting and how severe are the symptoms?
-How long are they staying in the hospital?
-Are they getting admitted to the ICU and being put on ventilators?
-How many are dying?

A little context would go a long way. But then context doesn't help the sensational fearmongering that so much of the media is going for.

 

[PerthDomer]

The MSM likes to beat up on Florida. It seems like every other story I read, even if it's about my area (North NJ, NYC metro), has to rope in how bad FL is doing with new cases and hospitalizations. But there's never any context. Maybe it is that bad. But my questions when I see case and hospitalization are:

-How sick are these people getting and how severe are the symptoms?
-How long are they staying in the hospital?
-Are they getting admitted to the ICU and being put on ventilators?
-How many are dying?

A little context would go a long way. But then context doesn't help the sensational fearmongering that so much of the media is going for.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...2f2b0f0c1.html

Generally they need vents quicker and more often than with prior covid strains and with worse courses on the vent. British data showed 1.5 to 2 times2age/comorbidity for alpha over the initial virus. Delta is 2 to 3 times alpha. The vaccine still works really well though.

Deaths lag cases so the death uptick we're seeing will worsen.

 

[50milesSE ND]

https://rumble.com/vkgmd1-dr-david-martin-the-history-of-coronaviruses-and-their-vaccines.html

 

[GowerND11]

Yeah... the same Dr. that has been spouting falsehoods about the vaccine from the beginning. Nah, not watching something from him. It absolutely is about politics in this video, and the website it's on.

 

[NDisme]

Think we hear any hesitancy or any concern going into the Florida State game?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Austin is back to stage 5, which means dick all, really.

 

[50milesSE ND]

Gower, Dr. Martin was a guest speaker at Norte Dame for the topic of Climate Investing.

 

[IrishLax]

Going through and cleaning up a bunch of posts that are either overly political or present misinformation. Not going back months, but trying to grab everything on the last few pages. We've been getting some complaints about the tone / content of many recent posts here.

On Ivermectin -- anyone pushing it as a hidden cure-all for COVID are liars or misinformed.

Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, scientists have scrambled to find possible treatments among already approved medications. Ivermectin, a drug used to treat parasites in both humans and animals, has recently been tested for its efficacy as a treatment for COVID-19. But does it work?

“The studies, unfortunately, show that this drug, as with some other drugs that have been tried, simply doesn’t work,” says Dr. William Schaffner, Professor of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt.

Some people itching to get their hands on a COVID-19 cure are putting themselves in danger for taking unprescribed doses of ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug used to treat diseases such as river blindness or scabies in people and prevent heartworm disease and other infestations in animals.

The drug has been flying off the shelves of farm supply stores and veterinary offices as people, mostly those who refuse to get vaccinated, search for unconventional ways out of the pandemic.

Yet, several federal and international health agencies, including the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health and the World Health Organization, have advised against using ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19 outside of controlled clinical trials.

Misconceptions about the drug’s coronavirus healing abilities began to spread when a handful of studies found positive trends in patients after taking the drug, particularly one non-peer reviewed paper that said ivermectin can lower COVID-19 death rates by more than 90%.

That study has since been withdrawn from the research website following reports of plagiarism and data manipulation that “are now under formal investigation.”

Separate research published in June last year found that ivermectin reduced the amount of coronavirus in a laboratory dish by 5,000-fold after two days. Some studies showed the drug helped COVID-19 patients recover faster and reduced inflammation, while others showed no benefits or worsening of disease.

But “most of these studies had incomplete information and significant methodological limitations, which make it difficult to exclude common causes of bias,” according to the NIH, including small sample sizes, inconsistencies in the reporting of disease severity and conflicting data as patients received multiple medications at once.

“The way that [ivermectin] works is it actually paralyses the worm by attacking the nerve and muscle cells,” Speights told KAIT8. “COVID is [caused by] a virus. COVID doesn’t have nerve or muscle cells, so the mechanism in which the drug works wouldn’t work for a virus.”

A WHO group of experts analyzed 16 randomized controlled trials including a total of 2,407 inpatients and outpatients with COVID-19 and concluded that evidence of the drug’s ability to improve disease outcomes is of “very low certainty.”

Just like hydroxycholoroquine -- which a few months ago was the en vogue "hidden by Big Pharma" COVID treatment -- ivermectin is being pushed by grifters, conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers, and unfortunately some honest people who are just being fed the wrong information.

Vaccines work incredibly well, better than people were hoping they would when they first started development. They work against the original strain of COVID, and work less well against Delta but still get the job done in preventing the worst outcomes. Regardless of what a Youtube video with ominous music or scary charts tells you, the best bet to not contract COVID is to get vaccinated; the best bet to no have a bad COVID outcome is to already be vaccinated; and the best therapeutics after getting COVID are remdesivir and steroids.

 

[50milesSE ND]

Irishlax thanks for your points. This topic open for discussion, or is it not?

 

[IrishLax]

And I'm not saying you can't go get political in another thread, or go off the rails on whatever conspiracy theory you want. But we have a politics section for that kind of stuff, and if we're going to head down that path here then we'd need to move this thread which we don't really want to do. We do not want people coming to the front page of this site and reading debunked nonsense or politically charged posts. Probably should've been policing this thread more earlier, so our bad on that.

 

[IrishLax]

Irishlax thanks for your points. This topic open for discussion, or is it not?

It's a tough question, and you're posting in good faith so apologies if any of your posts got swept up in the cleanup I'm doing. But generally speaking, some discussion is fine, but we don't want people fighting here about unproven theories or political opinions or things like that.

We had someone post they hope "all unvaccinated people die" and like... that's the straw that broke the camel's back. We gotta reign stuff in in now. People need to chill. Not saying this applies to you, but I'm just doing a mass delete of everything in the margins.

 

[50milesSE ND]

The video I posted was of a guy who has spoken at Notre Dame. I guess they may bring in crazies, or totally sane. However I don’t recall him speaking from a political side rather patent facts that lead to mass profits for pharmaceutical companies. Is it for the good of people, or not? There is nothing wrong with looking at various forms of information. You either believe it or not.

 

[IrishLax]

The video I posted was of a guy who has spoken at Notre Dame. I guess they may bring in crazies, or totally sane. However I don’t recall him speaking from a political side rather patent facts that lead to mass profits for pharmaceutical companies. Is it for the good of people, or not? There is nothing wrong with looking at various forms of information. You either believe it or not.

I'll undelete that post.

 

[50milesSE ND]

Watch at 1:30:38 mark.https://video.ibm.com/recorded/1307...5PHk4KckO5kBCvpYZp4RLwdEv7Kces9e4vmykXqb2Wc94

 

[PerthDomer]

We're seeing winter levels of viruses not named COVID that hit kids plus COVID is making some kids incredibly sick in ways we just haven't seen before. Childrens hospitals are at or above capacity in many places. Texas/Florida offered services by shunting young adults to Childrens Hospitals in prior surges. That pop off just doesnt exist any more. Things will get worse before they get better.

 

[ACamp1900]

Watch at 1:30:38 mark.https://video.ibm.com/recorded/13074...e4vmykXqb2Wc94

Idk even know what to think about it all,… obviously governments lie but that doesn’t mean we are witnessing some huge coverup/conspiracy,… however I did run the student services of a top nursing school some years back and Ive seen the hospitals we partnered with (including the one I was born in) in the news. The hospitals in question were shown as overrun, people dying in the hallways, totally overwhelmed. So I reached out to a couple former students I know are now in those hospitals to see if they’re okay and each time they basically laughed and said if anything the had too little to do, hospital was near empty,… I don’t freakin know what to think about it all.