Superconferences & Realignment

[Bishop2b5]

https://streamable.com/dbjm7a?fbclid=IwAR0qPiffzkT5jwehKkJOoNT_uG-yMzTqxLReMeFk2yZaxscVXebQpA9bPYg

First sec meeting with texas

That was wrong, but funny as hell. Poor A&M. OTOH, if they beat UT's butt several times in a row, they're gonna love letting the Horns in.

 

[BobbyMac]

why ON EARTH would Vandy and Mizzou want to willingly leave the money printing machine they are currently in?

The B1G brings in more TV money than the SEC & the SEC's already in Texas. If A&M was pissed enough regarding how they were treated, they could go to the B1G and take the Texas market to the B1G's calculations.

The B1G's allure to the eggheads is real. The research dollars the B1G brings in compared to the SEC is probably 3x more. Vandy is a B1G or ACC school trapped in the wrong conference. If you can make the same money in a football conference and gain all the synergies off the field not provided by your current arrangement, what's the downside? Vandy used to have like rivals in the SEC but GT, Tulane and the University of the South left.

 

[Dale]

The B1G brings in more TV money than the SEC & the SEC's already in Texas. If A&M was pissed enough regarding how they were treated, they could go to the B1G and take the Texas market to the B1G's calculations.

The B1G's allure to the eggheads is real. The research dollars the B1G brings in compared to the SEC is probably 3x more. Vandy is a B1G or ACC school trapped in the wrong conference. If you can make the same money in a football conference and gain all the synergies off the field not provided by your current arrangement, what's the downside? Vandy used to have like rivals in the SEC but GT, Tulane and the University of the South left.

For now yes, won’t be the case in the SECs new deal more than likely.

 

[BobbyMac]

For now yes, won’t be the case in the SECs new deal more than likely.

No, I responded to him in the present. Most people think the SEC makes more money than the B1G and that's not the case. As of now the SEC would surpass the B1G in 2023 but if A&M left for the B1G and/or when the B1G snags UNC & UVa, Mizzou or Vandy, it flips back the other way quick. The B1G's gonna end up with more TV's in the end. They have room to grow in every direction including Texas, have the trump card in forming an alliance with the PAC and have the academic panache that the eggheads who make the final decisions identify with and crave.

 

[drayer54]

No, I responded to him in the present. Most people think the SEC makes more money than the B1G and that's not the case. As of now the SEC would surpass the B1G in 2023 but if A&M left for the B1G and/or when the B1G snags UNC & UVa, Mizzou or Vandy, it flips back the other way quick. The B1G's gonna end up with more TV's in the end. They have room to grow in every direction including Texas, have the trump card in forming an alliance with the PAC and have the academic panache that the eggheads who make the final decisions identify with and crave.

UNC/UVA would be great add ons for the BIG. I'm curious to know what A&M really thinks about hopping to the BIG and what the chatter is at the BIG about expansion and cherry-picking the remains of the Big 12, A&M, ACC, and PAC. If Clemson or FSU are looking at the SEC right now, I would think the ACC will collapse soon too.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Idk if A&M fits the Big Ten culturally lol

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Idk if A&M fits the Big Ten culturally lol

It’s an Ag school, I think they’d get along famously with the Purdue kids….

 

[zelezo vlk]

Aggies are a cult though...

 

[Irish#1]

The board of regents in Texas and Oklahoma unanimously voted to formally accept invitations to join the SEC, the schools announced Friday.

It puts a bow on a week of formalities that will ultimately make the SEC the first 16-team super-conference.

If A&M really doesn't like this, we should start hearing rumors soon.

 

[drayer54]

Aggies are a cult though...

100%. I married into that cult. It feels like an SEC school, but selfishly, I wouldn't mind seeing them come North for some away games. Aggies despise Texas. Nothing would shock me at this point.

 

[BobbyMac]

It’s an Ag school, I think they’d get along famously with the Purdue kids….

And:

Ohio State
Penn St
Rutgers
Maryland
Mich St
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Remember, the others are Tractor Tech's... While Purdue is Rocket Tech.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

And:

Ohio State
Penn St
Rutgers
Maryland
Mich St
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Remember, the others are Tractor Tech's... While Purdue is Rocket Tech.

Yeah, I work with dozens of Purdue folks, they are farmers first, second and third…

 

[tussin]

100%. I married into that cult. It feels like an SEC school, but selfishly, I wouldn't mind seeing them come North for some away games. Aggies despise Texas. Nothing would shock me at this point.

I never understood that mentality. If you hate Texas, wouldn't you want to play them and beat them?

 

[zelezo vlk]

I never understood that mentality. If you hate Texas, wouldn't you want to play them and beat them?

I'd rather never schedule Michigan again. I was on record being against the last two game series. Don't even give them the time of day

 

[NorthDakota]

And:

Ohio State
Penn St
Rutgers
Maryland
Mich St
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Nebraska

Remember, the others are Tractor Tech's... While Purdue is Rocket Tech.

Being a "farm school" goes far beyond having the state Land-Grant. I went to one. If someone came and told me they went to a farm school and listed any of those other than Nebraska and maybe Michigan State, we'd laugh them out of the room.

Purdue, Nebraska, Iowa State, A&M, Auburn....bona fide Land Grant schools. Minnesota...Wisconsin...Illinois..etc? Get outta here. They are flagships who got gifted a land-grant.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I never understood that mentality. If you hate Texas, wouldn't you want to play them and beat them?

Haté is its own punishment. It makes smart people dumber and dumb people deplora ble. It allows wild emotion to suppress reason. There are reasons Christ banned haté and why haté killed Christ.

 

[drayer54]

I never understood that mentality. If you hate Texas, wouldn't you want to play them and beat them?

A lot of it has to do with the Texas mindset and them being arrogant. The Longhorn Network and the nature of the PAC-12 stunt before the separation is a big part. Also, A&M recruits Texas with the chance to be in the SEC. If Texas can offer the same thing, and OU who recruits Texas hard too, then it doesn’t help you.

I was waiting for 2024 when ND goes back to Texas A&M to visit, but I think a TUv A&M game would be worth it in Kyle Field.

 

[Irish#1]

Purdue is known for their agriculture programs, but it’s not a coincidence that they’ve had more astronauts than any other school.

 

[drayer54]

Purdue is known for their agriculture programs, but it’s not a coincidence that they’ve had more astronauts than any other school.

I’ve always known them for their engineering programs, which from what I’ve seen and heard, don’t suck.

 

[Irish#1]

34 Oklahoma State Legislators send letter to OU President, " “You have chosen to advance the interests of the University of Texas as a partner instead of working collaboratively with your in-state partner at Oklahoma State University.”

Heard on Dan Patrick that the PAC12 has no interest, in TCU, Texas Tech and Baylor.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Ag and engineering tend to go hand in hand. Clemson is an Ag and Engineering school as well.

 

[NorthDakota]

Ag and engineering tend to go hand in hand. Clemson is an Ag and Engineering school as well.

I think most of the aggie schools have respectable engineering. North and South Dakota State have significantly better engineering than the flagship schools in each state.

 

[Rogue219]

I Think this is all one big nasty HIPAA violation.

 

[Sea Turtle]

The Kansas boards seem to think they are joining the B1G and it will be announced soon

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/MikeLeslieWFAA/status/1422353658864312358[/TWEET]

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ding-potential-merger-or-alliance-per-report/

So the Pac12 potentially getting bigger and shittier, lol.

Wonder how long it will take USC, Oregon &/or UW to wise up and jump ship; join the ACC or B1G

 

[Irishbounty28]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/MikeLeslieWFAA/status/1422353658864312358[/TWEET]

Lol at the end. “Maybe your fan base would rather lose to Alabama, than TCU.”

Awesome!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Lol at the end. “Maybe your fan base would rather lose to Alabama, than TCU.”

Awesome!

 

[NorthDakota]

Fatality. Absolutely Based Gigachad flex.

 

[Irish#1]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ding-potential-merger-or-alliance-per-report/

So the Pac12 potentially getting bigger and shittier, lol.

Wonder how long it will take USC, Oregon &/or UW to wise up and jump ship; join the ACC or B1G

A merger of the two conferences would create the first 20-team super-conference and give the new conference four more teams than the SEC. At that point, all bets are off in terms of next steps around the country with realignment in full swing.

Whatever happens with the Big 12, it's clear that it's trying to bring into focus a future that has become blurry over the last three weeks. CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd reported last week that the Big 12 is under the impression that the American Athletic Conference (AAC) is expected to be an aggressor in this current round of realignment, with several of the remaining eight Big 12 teams being potential targets.

USC and maybe Oregon are the only true attractive teams so I'm not sure that would be a super conference unless they go strictly by the number of schools. Even with teams from the Big 12, I can't see the AAC being able to attract much of a TV deal compared to the big boys.