ND - Michigan in '18 to be announced tomorrow?

[NorthDakota]

I mean, once you get through those first 7 games... it's smooth sailing?

Have you learned nothing from watching ND play BC?

 

[IrishLion]

Have you learned nothing from watching ND play BC?

Italics was implied.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

I mean, once you get through those first 7 games... it's smooth sailing?

At least we have Boob Davie on the schedule

 

[tko]

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[TomHaverford]

Harbough will have worn out his welcome by 2019...lol

call me crazy, but he's a lifer if he wants it.

I don't really see a situation where he wears out his welcome. They are so desperate to have a winner in Ann Arbor, they'll let him do what he pleases. Within the rules of course. The new AD is a friend and former teammate of Harbaugh's. The new President of the school publicly backed Harbaugh after all that backlash of him cutting that OT recruit from Illinois at the last second, forgetting his name right now. The AD is letting him have spring practice at IMG in Florida and do 30 summer camps all over the country.

It's not Stanford where the attitude is, well it's STANFORD, academics matter most to us, we shouldn't spend all this money on x,y,z- he had to fight and bitch and moan to get improvements for athletic facilities or his offices or to try and get a recruit admitted.

Michigan will write him a blank check for facilities, for improvements to his offices, and they'll try and help him get any kid that meets bare NCAA mins admitted. It's a different dynamic. It's a football school. With A TON of money from a self-sufficient athletic department. The Stanford AD doesn't even begin to bring in the same amount of football dollars. I remember reading an article not long ago in Forbes about football revenues back in 2014. Stanford football brought in like $18 million that year I want to say. Michigan? $85 million. And that was a down year when Michigan was struggling under Hoke. I believe that last year, in Harbaugh's first year it jumped to around $100 mil. There's no doubt that with the hire of Harbaugh and the enthusiasm he's brought back to the program that football revenues have soared.

I really don't foresee a situation where he wears out his welcome. He's got carte blanche to do whatever he wants. As long as he wins far more than he loses and can turn MSU/OSU into real games and win some of those, he's going to be around for as long as he wants.

 

[greyhammer90]

call me crazy, but he's a lifer if he wants it.

I don't really see a situation where he wears out his welcome. They are so desperate to have a winner in Ann Arbor, they'll let him do what he pleases. Within the rules of course. The new AD is a friend and former teammate of Harbaugh's. The new President of the school publicly backed Harbaugh after all that backlash of him cutting that OT recruit from Illinois at the last second, forgetting his name right now. The AD is letting him have spring practice at IMG in Florida and do 30 summer camps all over the country.

It's not Stanford where the attitude is, well it's STANFORD, academics matter most to us, we shouldn't spend all this money on x,y,z- he had to fight and bitch and moan to get improvements for athletic facilities or his offices or to try and get a recruit admitted.

Michigan will write him a blank check for facilities, for improvements to his offices, and they'll try and help him get any kid that meets bare NCAA mins admitted. It's a different dynamic. It's a football school. With A TON of money from a self-sufficient athletic department. The Stanford AD doesn't even begin to bring in the same amount of football dollars. I remember reading an article not long ago in Forbes about football revenues back in 2014. Stanford football brought in like $18 million that year I want to say. Michigan? $85 million. And that was a down year when Michigan was struggling under Hoke. I believe that last year, in Harbaugh's first year it jumped to around $100 mil. There's no doubt that with the hire of Harbaugh and the enthusiasm he's brought back to the program that football revenues have soared.

I really don't foresee a situation where he wears out his welcome. He's got carte blanche to do whatever he wants. As long as he wins far more than he loses and can turn MSU/OSU into real games and win some of those, he's going to be around for as long as he wants.

Yep. Sounds like Michigan.

 

[BobbyMac]

Yep. Sounds like Michigan.

Terrific job of bolding.

As a Public Ivy alum, it makes me sick at how Michigan, UNC, Cal/UCLA & UT go on and on about their incredible high academic standards, their USN&WR ranking and the value of their diplomas while letting in recruits that were a letter grade away in woodshop from playing their first 2 years at Butler Co. JC. These institutions are full of phantom majors & classes. They take kids who weren't even close to earning their spot academically, throw them in said worthless majors and let them fall out of the system before graduating with a piece of paper whose real value is what it cost to have it printed at Kinkos. They build programs on the backs of talented black athletes then graduate them in such embarrassingly low percentages that it makes me wonder why a prospective black student athlete would even consider these schools. Public Ivy? More like Public Plantation.

All I can say is, thank goodness for UVa, they at least try.

 

[connor_in]

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[Nothingman]

Ok seriously... 2019:

@Michigan
USC
@Georgia
@Stanford
@Louisville
Va. Tech
Ga. Tech
UVA
Duke
BC
Navy
New Mexico

Brutal. ND should just complete this meat grinder of a schedule and add the '85 Bears as the 13th game.

Also, if we had never played scUM again, it would have been too soon. Fuck michigan.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I could not think of one positive thing for the Irish when I read the series was getting renewed. Maybe the grey haired section will love it but in the larger context of the CFB playoff system it just makes the road for the Irish tougher. Nothing against playing top tier teams but adding Meatchicken to an already capable schedule is ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that there is really no benefit in recruiting.

With all that said... I hope the Irish beat the dog piss out of them PAB's.

 

[BobbyMac]

I could not think of one positive thing for the Irish when I read the series was getting renewed. Maybe the grey haired section will love it but in the larger context of the CFB playoff system it just makes the road for the Irish tougher. Nothing against playing top tier teams but adding Meatchicken to an already capable schedule is ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that there is really no benefit in recruiting.

With all that said... I hope the Irish beat the dog piss out of them PAB's.

You must hate the Bama Athletic Dept for adding two high profile, non-home games with SC and FSU. Absolutely stupid, unneeded and the Bama fans don't even get to see one of them at home.

No benefit in recruiting? Come on. Just wait to see the visit list for that Saturday night game. It'll be on par with the '17 Bama - FSU game in Atlanta for star power. Both will be the regular season games of the year.

 

[woolybug25]

You must hate the Bama Athletic Dept for adding two high profile, non-home games with SC and FSU. Absolutely stupid, unneeded and the Bama fans don't even get to see one of them at home.

No benefit in recruiting? Come on. Just wait to see the visit list for that Saturday night game. It'll be on par with the '17 Bama - FSU game in Atlanta for star power. Both will be the regular season games of the year.

How many high profile games do we need to have in order to cater to recruiting official visits though? I mean, USC and FSU/UGA (which by the way, all have much better national pull than UM, in regards to recruits visiting from those regions) are already those premier games. I don't think it will add to the amount of recruits we get overall. We can already get regional recruits that would have interest in seeing us play another Midwestern opponent. The only advantage I see in regards to recruiting is having more premier games to spread those visits over. More personal touch or whatnot. But besides that, I think any marginal recruiting advantages that it may have, could easily be outweighed if scheduling too many top 25 opponents causes us to miss the playoffs. Kids want to play for teams that win.

 

[PLACforever]

How Did Denard Robinson of the Jaguars End Up Fast Asleep in a Partly Submerged Car? - NYTimes.com

 

[philipm31]

As mentioned in the other thread, the 2018 schedule will include Florida State, Southern Cal, Stanford, VA Tech, and now Michigan. The only way this could work out is if Harbaugh bolts for the Colts before 18.

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Super stoked.

UM is finally credible opponent again, VA Tech is not good and won't be any good by then. USC is more important as a rival, but they seem to be sliding into another decade of mediocrity. FSU could be good, but this ain't the 80s and early 90s anymore.

It will all be fine and work itself out. I could not want to win against Michigan more than I did when they were beating up Bo.

 

[philipm31]

Time to put these dudes in their place, AGAIN.

+1

 

[philipm31]

I'm trying to remember the last time ND didn't play a terrible schedule.

Actually a terrible schedule could be done, we could be 11-0 and unranked.

Re:2012, anyone? That schedule was considered too tough for the Irish and they went unbeaten and went to the National Title game for the first time since 1988.

What ND needs to worry about is themselves, period and they will be fine.

 

[philipm31]

Was 1988 a terrible schedule too? I forget. How many top 5 teams did they play that year? 4? 3 in the regular season? Give me the schedules under Lou any day, because those were even tougher and ND was averaging 10 wins a year. 10-1 or 11-1 with that kind of difficulty would get ND into the CFP in a walk because ND has played harder schedules and done just fine. Just take care of business and it will be fine.

 

[gkIrish]

Are tickets for this game really going to be $225? That's what someone told me...

 

[arrowryan]

Are tickets for this game really going to be $225? That's what someone told me...

At face value? I highly doubt it. I'd guess face value will be in the $120 range, maybe $140. I'd bet scalpers will be trying to resell them for no less than $400 though

 

[dublinirish]

Actually a terrible schedule could be done, we could be 11-0 and unranked.

Re:2012, anyone? That stupid was considered too tough for the Irish and they went unbeaten and went to the National Title game for the first time since 1988.

What ND needs to worry about is themselves, period and they will be fine.

most definitely. We have no idea how good the teams on our schedule are gonna be in 2018 anyways. CFB is just way too volatile these days to look that far ahead.

 

[koonja]

Speaking of tickets and do not want to bump the MSU thread, I will be scalping for 2 tickets for the MSU game this year. I do NOT want to wait til after kick off. What should I reasonably expect to pay for 2 tickets scalped that I want to purchase ~ 1hr before kick off? I guess I want to have an idea of a price so I know when I come across it 'that's a good deal'. Never scalped before.

 

[wizards8507]

Speaking of tickets and do not want to bump the MSU thread, I will be scalping for 2 tickets for the MSU game this year. I do NOT want to wait til after kick off. What should I reasonably expect to pay for 2 tickets scalped that I want to purchase ~ 1hr before kick off? I guess I want to have an idea of a price so I know when I come across it 'that's a good deal'. Never scalped before.

Try for face value first. Tickets go on sale July 21.

 

[arrowryan]

Speaking of tickets and do not want to bump the MSU thread, I will be scalping for 2 tickets for the MSU game this year. I do NOT want to wait til after kick off. What should I reasonably expect to pay for 2 tickets scalped that I want to purchase ~ 1hr before kick off? I guess I want to have an idea of a price so I know when I come across it 'that's a good deal'. Never scalped before.

Are you expecting both teams are 2-0 and in the top 25? I'd bring no less than $500. I'd bring $700 just to be safe.

 

[koonja]

Try for face value first. Tickets go on sale July 21.

Are you expecting both teams are 2-0 and in the top 25? I'd bring no less than $500. I'd bring $700 just to be safe.

I'm not an alumn, no chance I get anything at face value.

Yes I am. And that's more than I thought, but thanks for the input. I had tickets to the ND Stanford game 2 years ago and asked around for ticket prices with scalpers out of curiousity, and they were surprisingly cheap, like $150 a piece for good tickets (40 yard line but way up). So I was hoping to be under what your heads up was, lol.

 

[wizards8507]

Ok seriously... 2019:

@Michigan
USC
@Georgia
@Stanford
@Louisville
Va. Tech
Ga. Tech
UVA
Duke
BC
Navy
New Mexico

That has to be the hardest September in the history of football.

I'm not an alumn, no chance I get anything at face value.

You're wrong. If you're on right when the tickets go live, you'll be able to get two singles at face value. They won't be together, but you can use them to negotiate yourself into a pair.

 

[arrowryan]

I'm not an alumn, no chance I get anything at face value.

Yes I am. And that's more than I thought, but thanks for the input. I had tickets to the ND Stanford game 2 years ago and asked around for ticket prices with scalpers out of curiousity, and they were surprisingly cheap, like $150 a piece for good tickets (40 yard line but way up). So I was hoping to be under what your heads up was, lol.

I haven't scalped in forever so maybe things have changed. but sometimes you can get really lucky with prices. For the Penn State game in 2006, people were asking for $300; for a game against Washington in 2003(?), we got tickets for $5 a piece.

I would bring more money than you want to spend just in case the prices are higher than you're expecting. Both teams should be 2-0, both should be ranked, it will be the first big home game of the season, and it will be September so there is a good chance there will be nice weather; those tickets definitely won't be cheap.

 

[IrishLion]

Ok seriously... 2019:

@Michigan
USC
@Georgia
@Stanford
@Louisville
Va. Tech
Ga. Tech
UVA
Duke
BC
Navy
New Mexico

That has to be the hardest September in the history of football.

That's not the actual order of the schedule. I think that post is from most-to-least difficult.

Here's the schedule as it stands so far:

09/02 - at Louisville (Labor Day)
09/07 - OPEN (short week)
09/14 - New Mexico
09/21 - at Georgia
09/28 - Virginia
10/05 - OPEN
10/12 - OPEN
10/19 - at Georgia Tech
10/26 - at Michigan
11/02 - VT
11/09 - at Duke
11/16 - OPEN
11/23 - at BC
11/30 - OPEN

That leaves USC, @Stanford, and Navy to be put in on those open dates. Stanford will be 11/30, unless they can't go that late for some reason, in which case the season won't end on the west coast for the first time in a long time.

The best way might be to put USC after Virginia and Navy before GT, that way you get the triple-option two weeks in a row, staying in practice in terms of defending it. But that's an awful lot of BODY BLOW THEORY.

 

[gkIrish]

That's not the actual order of the schedule. I think that post is from most-to-least difficult.

Here's the schedule as it stands so far:

09/02 - at Louisville (Labor Day)
09/07 - OPEN (short week)
09/14 - New Mexico
09/21 - at Georgia
09/28 - Virginia
10/05 - OPEN
10/12 - OPEN
10/19 - at Georgia Tech
10/26 - at Michigan
11/02 - VT
11/09 - at Duke
11/16 - OPEN
11/23 - at BC
11/30 - OPEN

That leaves USC, Stanford and Navy to be put in on those open dates.

The best way might be to put USC after Virginia and Navy before GT, that way you get the triple-option two weeks in a row, staying in practice in terms of defending it. But that's an awful lot of BODY BLOW THEORY.

Stanford will be on 11/16 or 11/30. They always schedule the game @USC or @Stanford at the end of the year. Navy will likely be the short week. USC will be one of the two October dates, probably the second one.

 

[IrishLion]

Stanford will be on 11/16 or 11/30. They always schedule the game @USC or @Stanford at the end of the year. Navy will likely be the short week. USC will be one of the two October dates, probably the second one.

I would hate to see Navy on a short week after playing Louisville, because Petrino is gonna have that offense blasting people consistently by 2019, and trying to prepare for Navy with one less day of prep would be awful.

I'd almost rather see a brutal stretch at the end of September and into October, where you go
UGA-UVA-USC-Navy-GT-scUM-VT.

EDIT: No way you can play those teams in 7 straight games. I'm wrong. Navy on a short week it is haha.

 

[condoms SUCk]

A buddy and I went in on season tix this year (Sec 16 Row 36, seats 1-2).
Looks, like we're gong to have to hold onto our tix for a few seasons.