'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Confirmed former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> QB Everett Golson will attend the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Irish?src=hash">#Irish</a> Pro Day on March 31: <a href="https://t.co/619yLbkfNy">https://t.co/619yLbkfNy</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ND?src=hash">#ND</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FSU?src=hash">#FSU</a></p>— Steve Wiltfong (@SWiltfong247) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247/status/704773114417147904">March 1, 2016</a></blockquote>
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They pulled the trigger to support the ND grad.

I can dig it.
 

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ISD referencing that current college QBs cannot participate in the Pro Day. I know this was (for some reason) a point of contention last week when the Golson rumors started. This is a big positive for Brown, Fuller, Prosise.
 

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This is good for everyone involved. For all his faults, he throws a catchable ball.


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ISD referencing that current college QBs cannot participate in the Pro Day. I know this was (for some reason) a point of contention last week when the Golson rumors started. This is a big positive for Brown, Fuller, Prosise.

Yes!
 

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On SportsBeat radio show on WSBT Radio last night, they were discussing this. As far as they knew he has not even been invited to camp/tryout anywhere.
 

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What a fall from grace. One time starter in the national championship as a freshman, finishes career without so much as an invite to try out. I'm not surprised after the way 2014 and 2015 finished for him, but it's hard to think of a college player that's had such a big meteoric rise only to come crashing down and miss an invite.
 

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he's best suited for the CFL with his skill set.

would prolly make more money too.
 

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On SportsBeat they also said there seemed to be some entitlement issues at pro day. Something about only wanting to use two specific balls among the issues.
 

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On SportsBeat they also said there seemed to be some entitlement issues at pro day. Something about only wanting to use two specific balls among the issues.

plus you know, he's a quitter. I'd say that was a mark against him.
 

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He wasn't very good. Not sure why anyone would have expected him to be picked up by an NFL team.
 

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Tommy Rees was invited to try out* for the Redskins, lest anyone forget

*He was let go after 2 practices because he was so terrible they couldn't evaluate any of the wideouts
 

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Tommy Rees was invited to try out* for the Redskins, lest anyone forget

*He was let go after 2 practices because he was so terrible they couldn't evaluate any of the wideouts

This. Just about anyone who played big time ball or has the arm is invited even just to be a camp arm. Golson fits that bill completely...the transfer must have turned off most teams and I'm guessing BK/Jimbo haven't gone out of their way to try and get teams interested.
 

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he's best suited for the CFL with his skill set.

would prolly make more money too.

EG is very small. I'm not sure there is much more to it than that. He's was not always great, and he had his issues, but he certainly would have found a home if he had been 6'2". At his size the room for error is zero. You need to be exceptionally productive, and exceptionally well-respected.
 

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A cheater and a quitter at ND, then ultimately left home during bowl game for FSU. How is this surprising?
 

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Reesus>Golson

From the Book of Reesus, circa 2014 after Golson had well passed him in turnovers with 3 games to go:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I only had 13 turnovers last year. Just sayin.... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/falseprophets?src=hash">#falseprophets</a></p>— Reesus (@reesus1842) <a href="https://twitter.com/reesus1842/status/533810901816586240">November 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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On SportsBeat they also said there seemed to be some entitlement issues at pro day. Something about only wanting to use two specific balls among the issues.

He did have an entitlement attitude but I can't blame him for wanting to use different balls. The ones they gave him were brand new and slippery. Hard to grip.
 

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A cheater and a quitter at ND, then ultimately left home during bowl game for FSU. How is this surprising?

Hardly a quitter. He had his issues academically and could easily have quit, but he hung in there and got his degree. When his four years were up he chose to transfer elsewhere for a better shot at being the starter. Every year Notre Dame has a handful of 5th year players choose the same option. It's no different than a business executive who gets passed over for a promotion and takes his talents elsewhere. Golson fulfilled his four-year commitment to Notre Dame. Notre Dame fulfilled its four-year commitment to Golson. Neither side was obligated beyond that, and both Golson and the football program made decisions based upon their own best interests at the time. Hindsight tells us that Kizer saved Notre Dame's butt when Zaire went down. Hindsight also tells us that Golson would have been better off at Notre Dame once Zaire went down. Had Golson stayed, he, more than likely, would have been called upon instead of Kizer. We'll never know what the result would have been.

This is a prime example of the 40-year decision. Golson has a Notre Dame degree. It's doubtful that he can make a career as a professional football player. However, if I was dependent upon Mark Sanchez as my starting quarterback, I might be inclined to at least invite Golson to camp. Stranger things have happened.
 

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I think quitter is a fair statement. Golson was in a unique position in comparison to other players that left for their 5th years. Most other players never saw the field in a starting capacity and were simply trying to enjoy their last year with that transfer opportunity. There are a few exceptions, like Hegarty, who let the coaches know in March they were leaving for their 5th year. Golson, on the other hand, went through Spring practice with many sideline reporters saying he looked to still have an edge on Zaire, and then decided to transfer without notifying the staff. That took a lot of possible reps away from both Zaire and Kizer. The staff was eventually notified by players that Everett was leaving instead of by Golson himself. Would he have started in 2015? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's moot now, and quite frankly we were better off with him transferring. It probably would have made the transition of Zaire's injury easier had Golson stayed, but we also got to see Kizer rise to the occasion and show what kind of player he can be. There's no doubt that Golson would have at least seen the field in some capacity in 2015, if not regaining his starter status. He chose to ultimately bail because he thought he could do better at Florida State. Instead of being in the Heisman discussion, he was a mere footnote in the offense (Despite having less turnovers due to the offense running mostly through Dalvin Cook) and was eventually benched again.

I think our QB position group as a whole has benefited with Golson's departure as well. Coaches have pointed out how much more close knit the group is now than they were a few seasons ago. The quarterbacks are competitive, but are friendly and support each other. You could see in some of the HBO shows where Zaire was behind Kizer. He helped coach him up and was rooting for him. You didn't see that from Golson when he was benched. Sure, maybe he's not going to be rooting for Zaire in that circumstance, but he could have at least helped motivate the team and been a part of the game. Instead he sat on the bench in solitary, disconnected from everyone. I think the team bond is far stronger today, they see each other as brothers. They fight for each other and hold each other responsible. We need that kind of leadership, especially at the QB position.
 
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I think quitter is a fair statement. Golson was in a unique position in comparison to other players that left for their 5th years. Most other players never saw the field in a starting capacity and were simply trying to enjoy their last year with that transfer opportunity. There are a few exceptions, like Hegarty, who let the coaches know in March they were leaving for their 5th year. Golson, on the other hand, went through Spring practice with many sideline reporters saying he looked to still have an edge on Zaire, and then decided to transfer without notifying the staff. That took a lot of possible reps away from both Zaire and Kizer. The staff was eventually notified by players that Everett was leaving instead of by Golson himself. Would he have started in 2015? Maybe yes, maybe no. It's moot now, and quite frankly we were better off with him transferring. It probably would have made the transition of Zaire's injury easier had Golson stayed, but we also got to see Kizer rise to the occasion and show what kind of player he can be. There's no doubt that Golson would have at least seen the field in some capacity in 2015, if not regaining his starter status. He chose to ultimately bail because he thought he could do better at Florida State. Instead of being in the Heisman discussion, he was a mere footnote in the offense (Despite having less turnovers due to the offense running mostly through Dalvin Cook) and was eventually benched again.

I think our QB position group as a whole has benefited with Golson's departure as well. Coaches have pointed out how much more close knit the group is now than they were a few seasons ago. The quarterbacks are competitive, but are friendly and support each other. You could see in some of the HBO shows where Zaire was behind Kizer. He helped coach him up and was rooting for him. You didn't see that from Golson when he was benched. Sure, maybe he's not going to be rooting for Zaire in that circumstance, but he could have at least helped motivate the team and been a part of the game. Instead he sat on the bench in solitary, disconnected from everyone. I think the team bond is far stronger today, they see each other as brothers. They fight for each other and hold each other responsible. We need that kind of leadership, especially at the QB position.

Cody Riggs sound familiar? How about Sebastian Avery? Another very fitting comparison (although it doesn't involve ND) would be Jake Rudock going to Michigan for a 5th year. He was a starter at Iowa that was going to lose his starting position, sound familiar? He won the starting job at Michigan and was just drafted. Had he stayed at Iowa as the back-up he would probably be looking for a job outside of football right now. As it is, he has put himself in a position to play his way onto an NFL roster. That is exactly the opportunity Golson was hoping to find. Unfortunately, transferring to FSU didn't work out for him. That doesn't make him a quitter. Golson's moodiness always seemed directed at himself more so than his teammates. He was ****ed off at himself and showed it on the sidelines. When he was on the field, I never saw an ounce of quit in him.
 

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Cody Riggs sound familiar? How about Sebastian Avery? Another very fitting comparison (although it doesn't involve ND) would be Jake Rudock going to Michigan for a 5th year. He was a starter at Iowa that was going to lose his starting position, sound familiar? He won the starting job at Michigan and was just drafted. Had he stayed at Iowa as the back-up he would probably be looking for a job outside of football right now. As it is, he has put himself in a position to play his way onto an NFL roster. That is exactly the opportunity Golson was hoping to find. Unfortunately, transferring to FSU didn't work out for him. That doesn't make him a quitter. Golson's moodiness always seemed directed at himself more so than his teammates. He was ****ed off at himself and showed it on the sidelines. When he was on the field, I never saw an ounce of quit in him.

It's hard to compare one player's experience to another's, they're not all the same. Riggs notified Florida as early as February. Same thing for Avery. It wasn't so much that Golson transferred, it was the way he did it. By all accounts Golson was proving himself to be slightly ahead of Zaire in Spring practices. Coach said the contest would continue into the fall though, Golson wanted the job guaranteed to him. Golson would have either won the job outright again, or would have at least split some reps in some form or another similar to the LSU game. Obviously he would have started full time once Zaire went down. Instead he took away reps from our other QBs in the Spring, and then was unprofessional in the way he failed to notify the staff of his impending transfer.
 

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It's hard to compare one player's experience to another's, they're not all the same. Riggs notified Florida as early as February. Same thing for Avery. It wasn't so much that Golson transferred, it was the way he did it. By all accounts Golson was proving himself to be slightly ahead of Zaire in Spring practices. Coach said the contest would continue into the fall though, Golson wanted the job guaranteed to him. Golson would have either won the job outright again, or would have at least split some reps in some form or another similar to the LSU game. Obviously he would have started full time once Zaire went down. Instead he took away reps from our other QBs in the Spring, and then was unprofessional in the way he failed to notify the staff of his impending transfer.

I don't think we have any idea what BK told EG behind closed doors. Do you think EG would have been invited back to ND to participate in pro day if he did something so unprofessional as to be some evil quitter? I sure don't think so...
 
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