'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[Irish#1]

Why does he need to "set an example"? At the end of the day, he has everyone by the ear and is in a position of power to determine where he wants to be. We can continue pretending that this is an amateur league all we want, but in reality he's a highly-sought after future employee with an elite skill set that is worth a ton of $$$. He knows this, the programs know this, we know this. He's working on his own timeline because there is absolutely no reason not to. Especially when you consider that as soon as he signs that LOI, he won't be in a powerful position for years. He won't get another meaningful say about the program or position he's in until it's time for him to sign his second contract in the NFL.

Like I said, it sucks that it's a recruit we are so heavily involved in, but I see no reason why a kid in a position like should be cowed into signing anything before he wants to.

(And like someone else said above, I reject the argument that he should do it to "respect the coaches' time". The coaches get paid an absurd amount of money based on the entertainment value of a sport wherein a five-star kid of this caliber will only (likely) see a fraction of his net worth.)

I agree as fans he owes us nothing and the coaches are paid handsomely to deal with recruits, but what power does he really hold? He isn't holding out for a better scholarship offer since they are all basically the same. ND is one of the few that will honor it all four years so from that standpoint we should be a logical pick. In reality, the only power he has now is simply his choice of school to attend unless a couple of schools are offering something under the table (car, money, coaching position for brother, etc.).

He has every right to decide on his own time frame, but this is not passing the smell test.

 

[Blazers46]

I think you're mischaracterizing my point a bit. I don't think the kid is a hero and I think there have been issues with his communication. But, again, he doesn't owe anyone good communication. The "undercurrent" I'm getting from most posts on here is that Robertson should follow the same process as everyone else, and for some reason he's wrong if he doesn't. I disagree with that.

Why is there a process in the first place if you don't have to follow it? Why is there an irrelevant NSD early February if they don't need to sign anything until whenever? What would stop certain schools from saying their NSD isn't until the Tuesday after memorial day or some other day or on the flip side why can't a school say their NSD is Oct 31 every year?

 

[NDohio]

Why is there a process in the first place if you don't have to follow it? Why is there an irrelevant NSD early February if they don't need to sign anything until whenever? What would stop certain schools from saying their NSD isn't until the Tuesday after memorial day or some other day or on the flip side why can't a school say their NSD is Oct 31 every year?

NSD is the earliest day kids can sign per the NCAA. They typically sign on that day so their spot is not given to another player. If some school wants to make Memorial Day their NSD let them. There won't be any players left for them to sign.

 

[T Town Tommy]

DRob is not alone as far as unsigned players for 2016. Sci Martin is a three star DE from La who originally committed to TCU but did not sign on NSD. He is scheduled to announce Friday and the general thought is either TCU or LSU. I don't know the reason for his delay from NSD however.

Sci Martin, McDonogh 35, Weak-Side Defensive End

 

[Luckylucci]

Though that article is meant to give you the feel goods about the family. I take from it, that they've been "planning" on Demetris for quite some time and it hasn't just been with his college decision.

 

[Rocket89]

I think you're mischaracterizing my point a bit. I don't think the kid is a hero and I think there have been issues with his communication. But, again, he doesn't owe anyone good communication. The "undercurrent" I'm getting from most posts on here is that Robertson should follow the same process as everyone else, and for some reason he's wrong if he doesn't. I disagree with that.

Let's pretend DR was going through one of two scenarios:

1) He's basically given his verbal to a school but doesn't want to sign a LOI and will wait until June to show up. See, Roquan Smith last year.

2) He's torn between two schools and he needs more time to decide and won't sign a LOI.

If either of these were the case, there'd be grumbling sure, but most would understand--and most did feel fine while it was sold we were his No. 2 and he was just waiting on Stanford testing/visiting.

The 'how' and the 'why' he's in this position is absolutely important, especially if we're talking about how fans react to his actions. You said he doesn't owe anyone anything which is kind of silly--at minimum he'll owe someone something come summer time unless he plans on not going to college in 2016-17.

Sure, in a complete vacuum where Recruit X is waiting to pick his college he doesn't owe anything. But you can only stick to that argument if you ignore the details to his recruitment. And it's those details which are the guts surrounding why he's waiting, and why many feel this has gone off the rails.

 

[beryirish]

DRob is not alone as far as unsigned players for 2016. Sci Martin is a three star DE from La who originally committed to TCU but did not sign on NSD. He is scheduled to announce Friday and the general thought is either TCU or LSU. I don't know the reason for his delay from NSD however.

Sci Martin, McDonogh 35, Weak-Side Defensive End

I'm sure there were a lot more players that didn't sign on NSD. But Demetris is the high-profile recruit 5 star that didn't sign that's making the headlines.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I wouldn't be surprised if the top-ranked class <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Alabama?src=hash">#Alabama</a> signed in 2016 got better before the fall: <a href="https://t.co/pwjzdiInQP">https://t.co/pwjzdiInQP</a></p>— Steve Wiltfong (@SWiltfong247) <a href="https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247/status/708322571041640448">March 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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referring to DR i presume, quelle surprize..

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unsigned five-star WR Demetris Robertson looking to feel at home (VIP) <a href="https://t.co/5FoOOZUXq0">https://t.co/5FoOOZUXq0</a> <a href="https://t.co/1GkOFxVf56">pic.twitter.com/1GkOFxVf56</a></p>— Kipp Adams (@KippLAdams) <a href="https://twitter.com/KippLAdams/status/708321917363736576">March 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[Irish#1]

Now it's about feeling at home?

Translation = Who's going to show me the most love?

 

[johnnycando]

Diva.

I'm over it and unsubscribing, again.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unsigned five-star WR Demetris Robertson looking to feel at home (VIP) <a href="https://t.co/5FoOOZUXq0">https://t.co/5FoOOZUXq0</a> <a href="https://t.co/1GkOFxVf56">pic.twitter.com/1GkOFxVf56</a></p>— Kipp Adams (@KippLAdams) <a href="https://twitter.com/KippLAdams/status/708321917363736576">March 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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"Right now, Stanford is still up top," Robertson said. "I take the Georgia official March 18, so we will see where they stand. We got Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, and Cal in there. Right now, I think Cal and Notre Dame are pushing for the top spot."

"Cal has a great academic program with what I want to major in, which is business and engineering," Robertson said. "They are the No. 1 public school in the country. Their football team is coming along, and I get along with those guys. When I went out there, it felt like home and a place I could be at. I talk to the coaches every day since I signed the financial aid agreement with them."

"My relationship has been strong with Notre Dame," Robertson said. "I like the 40 years not four years pitch. They have a great program. Coach Brian Kelly is doing well."

"Carlos just tells me to find a place where I feel at home," Robertson said. "I have felt at home at Cal, Alabama, and Georgia Tech," Robertson said.

OK there are a bunch more quotes...but after reading the top quotes in the story...we OUT ...so i will no longer post updates on him unless it ends up being a complete turn of events and chooses ND

 

[Cackalacky]

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Anyone got any suggestions for great places to eat in Savannah? Not sure this Trip Advisor has the right places.

 

[ND NYC]

translation of all this latest info:
Carlos is, and has been, pulling all the strings here. we GONE!

 

[NDdomer2]

the Notre Dame name is essentially a giant hastag for recruits. Add it to your list and more people are interested.

 

[Voltaire]

The notion of being able to achieve the grades to get an undergraduate engineering degree at Stanford while struggling to hit 1000 combined on SAT math and verbal while also having football take up 20-40 hours of your time every other semester... ok

 

[Rocket89]

The notion of being able to achieve the grades to get an undergraduate engineering degree at Stanford while struggling to hit 1000 combined on SAT math and verbal while also having football take up 20-40 hours of your time every other semester... ok

Engineering AND business. Heck, if someone talks to Carlos long enough we could probably add a third major for Demetris.

 

[dad4aa]

I like how he always adds "Notre Dame is in the top group" yet all of us know that is the farthest from the truth. I would look to buy magic beans if he ends up at ND.

 

[ND NYC]

Savannah standout’s family to file suit against GHSA | The Telegraph

wasn't sure if everyone knew about this its from a couple years ago.
carlos, demetris and co seem to think they can do whatever they want to do in a lot of things

 

[tadman95]

I think we're just a hat at this point.

 

[Irishnuke]

What a f'ing drama queen.

 

[Luckylucci]

Savannah standout’s family to file suit against GHSA | The Telegraph

wasn't sure if everyone knew about this its from a couple years ago.
carlos, demetris and co seem to think they can do whatever they want to do in a lot of things

I have even more belief in my mindset that we have no idea or don't want to know, what this is really about. The more that I read, the more it sounds like this kids life has been "handled" for quite some time. Usually the ethical and right decisions are not made in those scenarios.

 

[Shamrock Theories]

I have even more belief in my mindset that we have no idea or don't want to know, what this is really about. The more that I read, the more it sounds like this kids life has been "handled" for quite some time. Usually the ethical and right decisions are not made in those scenarios.

Pretty much nailed it

 

[GBdomer]

Diva.

I'm over it and unsubscribing, again.

Why is he a diva? He is waiting to get into Stanford. It's not like he is coming out and saying this school leads and then the next week this school leads. Sure the cancelled visit thing was a little out of hand but I think he has a hard time saying no. Could he have done things differently? For sure, but to call him a diva because he wants to get into Stanford isn't fair. Every single mod has reported the kid isn't like that and has been very kind to everyone throughout the process. I am not going to change how you think about him and I am over this recruitment as well but we can't fault a kid who wants to go to Stanford and is waiting to hear back.

That goes to everyone calling him a drama queen, I think he's getting a bad rap because it's a different report every week from mods and not Drob and I don't think in anyway he is doing this for attention. It's not like the #1 WR in the country needs attention. Heck man I would even name a kid who just signed with ND wayyyyyyy more of a drama queen then Drob.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Why is he a diva? He is waiting to get into Stanford. It's not like he is coming out and saying this school leads and then the next week this school leads. Sure the cancelled visit thing was a little out of hand but I think he has a hard time saying no. Could he have done things differently? For sure, but to call him a diva because he wants to get into Stanford isn't fair. Every single mod has reported the kid isn't like that and has been very kind to everyone throughout the process. I am not going to change how you think about him and I am over this recruitment as well but we can't fault a kid who wants to go to Stanford and is waiting to hear back.

That goes to everyone calling him a drama queen, I think he's getting a bad rap because it's a different report every week from mods and not Drob and I don't think in anyway he is doing this for attention. It's not like the #1 WR in the country needs attention. Heck man I would even name a kid who just signed with ND wayyyyyyy more of a drama queen then Drob.

That's why we should learn not to put our hopes on the back of an 18 year old kid.

 

[TDHeysus]

the Notre Dame name is essentially a giant hastag for recruits. Add it to your list and more people are interested.

this has been the case for quite some time. Especially early in the cycle, its a way for an 18 year old to get attention. They get the ND offer and its like gold, then other offers start rolling in and they take the one they really want.

without a doubt Urban Liar watches every single ND recruit and pounces when he wants to....been doing it since FLA. I'm sure having Tony Alford is another Ace in the Hole for Urbs.

I still say that ND should have backed up the Brinks truck (and given him any title) for Alford....

 

[GBdomer]

this has been the case for quite some time. Especially early in the cycle, its a way for an 18 year old to get attention. They get the ND offer and its like gold, then other offers start rolling in and they take the one they really want.

without a doubt Urban Liar watches every single ND recruit and pounces when he wants to....been doing it since FLA. I'm sure having Tony Alford is another Ace in the Hole for Urbs.

I still say that ND should have backed up the Brinks truck (and given him any title) for Alford....

I'll take Denson over Alford. Sure it sucked he went to OSU but recruiting hasn't dropped off and our RB's played amazing this season.

Urban is to busy landing top 100 players to care what ND is doing.

 

[Irish#1]

Savannah standout’s family to file suit against GHSA | The Telegraph

wasn't sure if everyone knew about this its from a couple years ago.
carlos, demetris and co seem to think they can do whatever they want to do in a lot of things

Nice find. The IHSAA denies these all the time, gets sued and usually wins. Anyone know the results?

Read between the lines very carefully. This kid may be the most polite kid around, but if he decides to come to ND, get ready for a soap opera. The first time his brother isn't happy about playing time, lack of balls thrown his way, etc., he's going to be a disruption to the team. CRob may not be the issue here, but it appears he comes with some baggage.

 

[Luckylucci]

Why is he a diva? He is waiting to get into Stanford. It's not like he is coming out and saying this school leads and then the next week this school leads. Sure the cancelled visit thing was a little out of hand but I think he has a hard time saying no. Could he have done things differently? For sure, but to call him a diva because he wants to get into Stanford isn't fair. Every single mod has reported the kid isn't like that and has been very kind to everyone throughout the process. I am not going to change how you think about him and I am over this recruitment as well but we can't fault a kid who wants to go to Stanford and is waiting to hear back.

That goes to everyone calling him a drama queen, I think he's getting a bad rap because it's a different report every week from mods and not Drob and I don't think in anyway he is doing this for attention. It's not like the #1 WR in the country needs attention. Heck man I would even name a kid who just signed with ND wayyyyyyy more of a drama queen then Drob.

Sorry but that last paragraph couldn't be further from the truth. The change in perception is a direct result of Drob and his brother, as they keep saying random things and changing their minds about visits, why they may choose a school, etc.

To the mods saying that he's a great kid. Obviously they are going to say that if they have any class at all. Drob and his brother have basically called multiple reporters liars, when all they've done is quote them. It's been shady as hell.

 

[GBdomer]

Sorry but that last paragraph couldn't be further from the truth. The change in perception is a direct result of Drob and his brother, as they keep saying random things and changing their minds about visits, why they may choose a school, etc.

To the mods saying that he's a great kid. Obviously they are going to say that if they have any class at all. Drob and his brother have basically called multiple reporters liars, when all they've done is quote them. It's been shady as hell.

You know that's like your opinion and I know you love to breakdown my posts for the flaws or what you disagree with. It's your opinion and that's fine I don't expect you to agree with what I say it's must the way I look at it.