'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[Irish2155]

Back in 96 my daughter applied to ND, USC, Vandy and IU. ND is the only school that didn't accept her.

What? Are you serious? Hope you're talking South Carolina.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Back in 96 my daughter applied to ND, USC, Vandy and IU. ND is the only school that didn't accept her.

She got into Vandy? I'm surprised, I got into ND but waitlisted at Vandy (as did a lot of people I know who applied to both). I don't know how much has changed, but at least now I know that Vandy takes a good deal of their students from their binding early application process and gets very selective with regular decision.

 

[Corry]

Back in 96 my daughter applied to ND, USC, Vandy and IU. ND is the only school that didn't accept her.

Wow dude that's impressive. As a father of two, I hope my boys have their choice of top notch schools like that. Where did she go?

 

[NorthDakota]

What? Are you serious? Hope you're talking South Carolina.

I imagine it was only so she could burn the acceptance letter and send back the ashes.

 

[Irish#1]

What? Are you serious? Hope you're talking South Carolina.

Nope. Vandy put her on a wait list because she applied late so it was basically between USC and IU. Funny thing was USC was offering a lot in scholarship and grant money. IU didn't offer anything. When I spoke to a lady at IU about any financial aid she was shocked that my daughter would consider USC over IU. She didn't like it when I mentioned a better degree for less money.

Unfortunately, my daughter had to go into the hospital for emergency surgery right when school was to start so she ended up at IU. She now has a Bachelors in Psychology from Purdue, Masters in Public Health from IU and a nursing degree from Marian. She's my only girl but very proud of her.

Back to DRob...........Some blasted Kelly for saying education was important, then picked OU. No one can say that about DRob given his two finalist are ND and the tree.

BTW.........Are there any other high recruits who haven't signed yet?

 

[NDgradstudent]

ND takes legacy admissions to a pretty ridiculous level, imo. The legacy admit rate is apparently 50%, compared to 20% overall. So it helps a lot. ND says that this is because legacies are more highly qualified, and could go to Harvard but choose to go to ND. I'd like to look at GPAs and SAT scores for legacies as opposed to non-legacies, but ND doesn't reveal that data for some reason.

Legacies + recruited athletes + affirmative action admits = 35-40% of any given ND class. This is why everyone's favorite former admissions officer said that "the poor schmuck who has to get in on his own has to walk on water."

 

[yankeeND]

Nope. Vandy put her on a wait list because she applied late so it was basically between USC and IU. Funny thing was USC was offering a lot in scholarship and grant money. IU didn't offer anything. When I spoke to a lady at IU about any financial aid she was shocked that my daughter would consider USC over IU. She didn't like it when I mentioned a better degree for less money.

Unfortunately, my daughter had to go into the hospital for emergency surgery right when school was to start so she ended up at IU.

Back to DRob...........Some blasted Kelly for saying education was important, then picked OU. No one can say that about DRob given his two finalist are ND and the tree.

BTW.........Are there any other high recruits who haven't signed yet?

Auston Robertson IN DE. Something off must have happened as be reopened his recruitment on Signing Day.

 

[#1rish]

Auston Robertson IN DE. Something off must have happened as be reopened his recruitment on Signing Day.

Check his thread, he was arrested last month so he's pretty much in limbo.

 

[Irish#1]

Auston Robertson IN DE. Something off must have happened as be reopened his recruitment on Signing Day.

He opened it back up because Sparty changed their mind for the moment. Robertson got in trouble with the law. His second brush in about 6-7 months.

 

[dublinirish]

Auston Robertson IN DE. Something off must have happened as be reopened his recruitment on Signing Day.

he was expelled from high school and charged with battery in mid january. MSU waiting to see if he can unfuck himself before they accept his commitment

Check this list :
2016's top 10 unsigned recruits, including one who could alter the top 5 classes - SBNation.com

 

[yankeeND]

Thanks guys, was just answering his question about high-profile recruits that haven't signed yet. I know there is not a chance of us getting him, and did not realize that what he did was to that level. Hate to see things like that.

 

[dublinirish]

Thanks guys, was just answering his question about high-profile recruits that haven't signed yet. I know there is not a chance of us getting him, and did not realize that what he did was to that level. Hate to see things like that.

yeah we discussed it a bit on NSD, kid has never really straightened himself out and separated from bad influences in his life.

 

[IrishLax]

Back in 96 my daughter applied to ND, USC, Vandy and IU. ND is the only school that didn't accept her.

Right, USC has a lower admit rate than ND, but ND actually requires a significantly higher SAT/GPA to get in for your "average" student.

 

[RDU Irish]

ND takes legacy admissions to a pretty ridiculous level, imo. The legacy admit rate is apparently 50%, compared to 20% overall. So it helps a lot. ND says that this is because legacies are more highly qualified, and could go to Harvard but choose to go to ND. I'd like to look at GPAs and SAT scores for legacies as opposed to non-legacies, but ND doesn't reveal that data for some reason.

Legacies + recruited athletes + affirmative action admits = 35-40% of any given ND class. This is why everyone's favorite former admissions officer said that "the poor schmuck who has to get in on his own has to walk on water."

Admission Statistics // Undergraduate Admissions // University of Notre Dame

HEY HEY! Alright, that is really encouraging for my kids. I had 20-25% in the back of my mind as the average legacy component of new classes but had never heard the actual admit rate. 50% is pretty stinking high. Great news for my kids, horrendous for my checkbook!

From the linked stats - they admit 20% and about 56% enroll who are accepted. While I would guess legacies accept at a much higher rate, assuming they enroll at a similar rate the would be 23% = 460 enrolling per class with 820 being accepted and 1640 applying (based on a 50% acceptance rate). So 9% of applications result in 23% of the enrolled by those metrics. Could easily be 6% of applicants if the % accepted who enroll is more like 80% - 90%.

 

[Rocket89]

Yes, this has been covered many times before. He is a very good student. But Stanfords admission standards are at another level.

*cough*

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

So.....Stanford's still in it?

 

[palinurus]

Check his thread, he was arrested last month so he's pretty much in limbo.

He opened it back up because Sparty changed their mind for the moment. Robertson got in trouble with the law. His second brush in about 6-7 months.

he was expelled from high school and charged with battery in mid january. MSU waiting to see if he can unfuck himself before they accept his commitment

Check this list :
2016's top 10 unsigned recruits, including one who could alter the top 5 classes - SBNation.com

Hey, give him an offer; we can test Lax's metaphor!

 

[kmoose]

What else the public may not know, if you improve your SAT by a significant amount (probably less than what is needed in this case - logic is to sway a school like Stanford with their policy and procedures, it would have to be nearly earth shattering!), there would immediately be an NCAA investigation. The crawling through your briefs kind, which would include taking apart a prospective signee's entire high school transcript.

Just a minor point here: The NCAA doesn't do anything IMMEDIATELY.

 

[IrishLax]

Are we even sure they are making exceptions though? Don't most think this is all a pipedream on Robertson's end?

No, I don't think anyone is sure. I don't think anyone really knows exactly what's going on with Robertson, because it doesn't follow any of their established procedures. I only have one Stanford friend that also cares about their sports, and he is consistently incredulous that he can be considered by Stanford at this point. For example, he's over a month past the deadline by which everyone must apply, so if Stanford followed their own basic rules he can't even be considered. Is David Shaw just screwing with ND? Or are we watching a paradigm shift?

Because the other part of this is that Robertson reportedly doesn't have an academic profile anywhere close to what is needed for Stanford. Apparently it's borderline for ND admissions, too. This was reported on Scout or 247 or one of those places. Everything is very fishy and it's hard to put much stock in anything that is put out there.

Final prediction: Houston.

 

[palinurus]

It's also possible the kid just can't decide at the moment and this was a good opportunity to delay while he decides. I don't necessarily take the delay as "if he was Irish, really, he would have already picked." An obviously-bright 18 year old kid with good options and real talent? My advice would be, "You're in the driver's seat; take your time, try to be sure, get all the information and options in front of you." If he picks ND, be happy. Believe me, when beautiful woman says "yes," that's not the time to get all prideful and butt hurt. I accept a win anytime.

 

[IrishLion]

Final prediction: Houston.

 

[PANDFAN]

No, I don't think anyone is sure. I don't think anyone really knows exactly what's going on with Robertson, because it doesn't follow any of their established procedures. I only have one Stanford friend that also cares about their sports, and he is consistently incredulous that he can be considered by Stanford at this point. For example, he's over a month past the deadline by which everyone must apply, so if Stanford followed their own basic rules he can't even be considered. Is David Shaw just screwing with ND? Or are we watching a paradigm shift?

Because the other part of this is that Robertson reportedly doesn't have an academic profile anywhere close to what is needed for Stanford. Apparently it's borderline for ND admissions, too. This was reported on Scout or 247 or one of those places. Everything is very fishy and it's hard to put much stock in anything that is put out there.

Final prediction: Houston.

BANG BANG

 

[OCIrish]

Holy $hit......I cannot believe this is STILL being discussed/debated/argued about.....whatever. If he signs, he signs, if not, we face him for 4 years. I cannot believe we're still back and forth on this!!!!

 

[IrishinTN]

Holy $hit......I cannot believe this is STILL being discussed/debated/argued about.....whatever. If he signs, he signs, if not, we face him for 4 years. I cannot believe we're still back and forth on this!!!!

We don't play Houston every year...

 

[Irish#1]

Holy $hit......I cannot believe this is STILL being discussed/debated/argued about.....whatever. If he signs, he signs, if not, we face him for 4 years. I cannot believe we're still back and forth on this!!!!

If he's that good, we'll only face him three years.

 

[GATTACA!]

Nope. Vandy put her on a wait list because she applied late so it was basically between USC and IU. Funny thing was USC was offering a lot in scholarship and grant money. IU didn't offer anything. When I spoke to a lady at IU about any financial aid she was shocked that my daughter would consider USC over IU. She didn't like it when I mentioned a better degree for less money.

Unfortunately, my daughter had to go into the hospital for emergency surgery right when school was to start so she ended up at IU. She now has a Bachelors in Psychology from Purdue, Masters in Public Health from IU and a nursing degree from Marian. She's my only girl but very proud of her.

Back to DRob...........Some blasted Kelly for saying education was important, then picked OU. No one can say that about DRob given his two finalist are ND and the tree.

BTW.........Are there any other high recruits who haven't signed yet?

Sounds like divine intervention to me.

 

[Irish#1]

Sounds like divine intervention to me.

I think you're right.

 

[ACamp1900]

I tell my girls all the time, "You can do whatever you want in life so long as you are law biding, productive, and make some kind of a positive impact. So that also means one thing you definitely can't do is go to, or root for, USC."

I win at parenting.

 

[palinurus]

I tell my girls all the time, "You can do whatever you want in life so long as you are law biding, productive, and make some kind of a positive impact. So that also means one thing you definitely can't do is go to, or root for, USC."

I win at parenting.

There aren't many things my kids could do to get disowned; going to Ohio State is probably one of them.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Right, USC has a lower admit rate than ND but it actually requires a significantly higher SAT/GPA to get in for your "average" student.

For whatever reason, I got into USC, but not ND. Couldn't pull the trigger though LOL...I have always friggin' hated USC and as stupid as it sounds now, I couldn't go to a rival of ND (or UCLA for that matter).

Worked out in the end but if my kids ever get into USC..........they won't be my kids if they attend that POS place