'15 TX WR Jalen Guyton (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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He gone. Sucks this had to happen. we have plenty of options at wide receiver. Keep on driving forwards.
 
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Who's with me on the 'who cares, don't bother me with a PM, next WR recruit will be better' train?
 

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Sucks. I really liked his film in high school, and any time you can get in with Allen, that's great.

OTOH, LAX WAS RIGHT, THE END IS NIGH! WE ARE BEING PUNISHED FOR THE A&M THREAD
 

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Sucks. I really liked his film in high school, and any time you can get in with Allen, that's great.

OTOH, LAX WAS RIGHT, THE END IS NIGH! WE ARE BEING PUNISHED FOR THE A&M THREAD

this.
I knew we shouldn't have reveled in it. knew it!

schadenfreude is swift these days!

oh, and if any of you "rep whores" ("not that there's anything wrong with that!")...wants shoot me a PM on him and neal...you will be rewarded.
 

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Sampson saw this coming, spoke about it earlier in the week.

This "rumor" has been out there for a few months so most people close to the program saw this coming for a while. I read about it somewhere (can't remember where) in late Oct/early Nov. If the report I read is true, expect at least one more transfer (non-contributor to date) before the spring semester begins.
 

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Sucks. I really liked his film in high school, and any time you can get in with Allen, that's great.

OTOH, LAX WAS RIGHT, THE END IS NIGH! WE ARE BEING PUNISHED FOR THE A&M THREAD

lol... we mock them for their issues with their freshman from Allen HS, and then we end up with issues with our freshman from Allen HS... #karma
 

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Some insiders post here to influence the narrative about the team. Sharing information that might embarrass departing players could cause them to lose the confidence of their sources. You may find it aggravating, but you should realize that you aren't their primary constituency.

While I agree with what you are saying, TP probably shouldn't have posted anything if he wasn't willing to elaborate on it.
 

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Some insiders post here to influence the narrative about the team. Sharing information that might embarrass departing players could cause them to lose the confidence of their sources. You may find it aggravating, but you should realize that you aren't their primary constituency.

Did you read the rest of my post as in "then act clueless like the rest of us"??
 
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Unless Neal was caught raping a goat at the grotto, I would have been over whatever he did in like 8 minutes. I guarantee the build up around the secret far outweighs what actually happened.
 

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While I agree with what you are saying, TP probably shouldn't have posted anything if he wasn't willing to elaborate on it.

Why not? If his goal is to influence the narrative without embarrassing Guyton, saying, "It's not disciplinary or grades-related", while refusing to name the specific reason makes plenty of sense. People get bent out of shape when they mistakenly assume that he's posting here for our benefit.
 

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What I'd like to know is if him "not being here next year" is his choice or the school's.
 

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Did you read the rest of my post as in "then act clueless like the rest of us"??

If he "act[ed] clueless like the rest of us," he couldn't influence the narrative in a positive way for the departing player. Again, you're making the mistake of assuming that TP is a just an anonymous ND fan who shares what he can in exchange for credibility/ social capital here on IE. That ain't the case. It's safe to assume he doesn't give a sh!t about whether his cryptic posts aggravate you or not, since his primary constituency is the team. He posts here for their benefit, not yours.
 
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Notre Dame suspends freshman receiver


Notre Dame freshman receiver Jalen Guyton has been suspended for a non-football related reason, two sources confirmed to Irish247....

ND head coach Brian Kelly is scheduled to address the media at approximately 12:45 p.m. Saturday. ...

two of the lines from the first post at the link which is free and not behind paywall at 247/CBS


Now I have seen BOTH Non-football and Non-academic related...
 
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Just don't worry about it. You'll likely hear about it in the next week if it's a big deal.

We've got like 2 pages full of nothing but people asking for a PM. Star Wars just came out and you all are already this bored?
 

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If he "act[ed] clueless like the rest of us," he couldn't influence the narrative in a positive way for the departing player. Again, you're making the mistake of assuming that TP is a just an anonymous ND fan who shares what he can in exchange for credibility/ social capital here on IE. That ain't the case. It's safe to assume he doesn't give a sh!t about whether his cryptic posts aggravate you or not, since his primary constituency is the team.

First off, I think TP is great. I've always appreciated his insight into the program. So, if it is an attempt to influence the narrative in a positive way it's all bulllshit anyways right? So why post it?
 

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First off, I think TP is great. I've always appreciated his insight into the program. So, if it is an attempt to influence the narrative in a positive way it's all bulllshit anyways right? So why post it?

It's not necessarily bullsh!t. If we found out he was intentionally leaking inaccurate information to IE, the consequences would be swift and severe. But just because an insider chooses to share some of what he knows here, that doesn't entitle you or anyone else to everything he knows on the subject. He's not trolling; he just has objectives other than providing you with a full understanding of the situation. If you can come to grips with that, you should find his partial disclosures cease to aggravate you.
 

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First off, I think TP is great. I've always appreciated his insight into the program. So, if it is an attempt to influence the narrative in a positive way it's all bulllshit anyways right? So why post it?

I generally agree with your point. I've made the same mistake before, basically trying to post "it's not XYZ" but without the permission to share what it actually is. It comes from a place of trust... where if the people giving you info ask you not to share, you can't violate that trust...

...but it's annoying as hell to the people participating in the thread because it comes off as "I know stuff but refuse to share." Which is very lame. So I pretty much don't post "cryptic" anymore unless it's an egregious error that needs correcting. Because otherwise the net positive to the thread doesn't outweigh the net negative.

So yeah... none of the above really helps the discussion at all, but in short I get where you're coming from. I also get where TP is coming from, because he's trying to squash BS without causing MORE BS by putting stuff out there that's going to cause unnecessary/unfair angst.
 

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Just don't worry about it. You'll likely hear about it in the next week if it's a big deal.

We've got like 2 pages full of nothing but people asking for a PM. Star Wars just came out and you all are already this bored?

Some of us never saw Star Wars so lemme get a PM so I can keep procrastinating studying for finals.

Some of you guys saying "this isn't that big a loss" and "awesome we have another scholarship", Guyton wasn't a nobody. He had offers from Ohio State, Clemson, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Stanford, etc... and we really don't have as much WR depth as we think. I didn't think Guyton would be a star but I did think he could be a quality depth piece like Chris Brown. We really need Justin Brent to stop fucking porn stars and start playing like the top 100 recruit he was.
 
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