'16 OH OT Tommy Kraemer (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[BeauBenken]

Kid is an animal.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A couple game 1 highlights thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD">@mattfreemanISD</a> <a href="http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ">http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ</a></p>— Tommy Kraemer (@Big_TK75) <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_TK75/status/637648206755721216">August 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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M.O.G, he just buries people. I almost feel bad for some of the players who have to face him.

 

[Irish2155]

Just curious...in this class, who is better than this kid on the OL? Freaking MONSTER.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think I saw a first, he actually pancaked two players at once!

And I particularly liked that flag thrown because he drove his opponent through the endzone, (after the whistle blew)! Ref can do what he wants, but neither player disengaged. I want a guy like that on the line for ND!

 

[drayer54]

I'd rather watch a big ole boy like this pancaking guys all day long than some fast back any day.

He should do well!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Zactly!

 

[Booslum31]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A couple game 1 highlights thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD">@mattfreemanISD</a> <a href="http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ">http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ</a></p>— Tommy Kraemer (@Big_TK75) <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_TK75/status/637648206755721216">August 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Looked like a few clips from the movie Blindside. Man amongst boys.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Looked like a few clips from the movie Blindside. Man amongst boys.

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[Irish2155]

He might start as a Frosh next year, freaking good...best I've seen on tape this year. Just BIG, monster, mean...pushes people around with ease. He may end up being better than Martin and Stanley one day?

Harry's stacking them up with the best in the country on the line...about 3 or 4 consecutive years now. Tommy might end up being his best.

 

[koonja]

That would really suck to have to go against a 4/5 star guy like that. I'm not a parent but I'd have a hard time watching my kid do that.

 

[Buster Bluth]

That would really suck to have to go against a 4/5 star guy like that. I'm not a parent but I'd have a hard time watching my kid do that.

Meh they have pads and it's not like the collisions at OL/DL from a game are enough to wreck you.

I'd be more worried as a parent if my son were an RB or QB and had to face blitzes from guys who are studs.

 

[OCIrish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A couple game 1 highlights thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD">@mattfreemanISD</a> <a href="http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ">http://t.co/bkyW6EPPbQ</a></p>— Tommy Kraemer (@Big_TK75) <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_TK75/status/637648206755721216">August 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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About the 1:45 mark.....they'll call that a hold every time in college. I LOVE his fiestiness!

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

He might start as a Frosh next year, freaking good...best I've seen on tape this year. Just BIG, monster, mean...pushes people around with ease. He may end up being better than Martin and Stanley one day?

Harry's stacking them up with the best in the country on the line...about 3 or 4 consecutive years now. Tommy might end up being his best.

If Harry stays at ND, I doubt there'll ever be a true freshman starting. If there is, I'll be absolutely shocked. OL takes time to develop and Harry is plucking the best in the country every year.

 

[gkIrish]

I'm going to try and go to one of his games this season.

 

[dublinirish]

rare to see an OL with such a size advantage be that nasty against smaller kids. It's a good thing to see as a ND fan

 

[greyhammer90]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My dudes <a href="https://twitter.com/jmcculloch17">@jmcculloch17</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TonnJoness">@TonnJoness</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DaelinHayes_24">@DaelinHayes_24</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Jae_Uno_">@Jae_Uno_</a> took care of me last night. 38 push-ups. <a href="http://t.co/yb4jvyO8ia">pic.twitter.com/yb4jvyO8ia</a></p>— Tommy Kraemer (@Big_TK75) <a href="https://twitter.com/Big_TK75/status/655774372964208640">October 18, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Tommy Kramer getting his lifts in with the help of Jeffrey McCulloch, Tony Jones Jr., Daelin Hayes, Khalid Kareem and Jalen Elliott.

 

[OCIrish]

Love it when the big boys get in on the act!!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Slacker!

 

[Domina Nostra]

Mom's review of Kraemer's film:

I hate to say it, but Tommy Kraemer is nothing but a big bully. Look at how he picks on all those defensive linemen play, after play, after play, after play! Tisk, Tisk. They're all so tiny next to him.

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We get it, Tommy, you like to throw other boys to the ground! But maybe some of those nice boys would like a turn sacking your quarterback. Well, any time they get close you toss them across the field like a ragdoll! Give some of the other boys a turn.

And don't you have any other move other than pancakes? What about a nice spin?

 

[Booslum31]

My mom review of Kraemer's film:

I hate to say it, but Tommy Kraemer is nothing but a big bully. Look at how he just relentlessly picks on all those defensive linemen play, after play, after play, after play! Tisk, Tisk. They're all so tiny next to him.

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We get it, Tommy, you like to throw other boys to the ground! But maybe some of those nice boys would like a turn sacking your quarterback. Well, any time they get close you toss them across the field like a ragdoll! Give some of the other boys a turn.

And don't you have any other move other than pancakes? What about a nice spin?

And here I thought Parker was the "King of Pancakes"! Now he's not going to be able to get away with some of the things he does at the college level but man...he loves to bring the nasty and finish his blocks. This is against some of the best HS teams in Ohio!

Side bar question: If a lineman fires out and engages the person he is blocking and that person eventually turns his back on the lineman...can the lineman continue pushing him in the back? Or does that become blocking in the back at that point? Many time Tommy is pushing his guy down the field and the guy turns around (probably to avoid the pure pancake). Tommy stays on him anyway...it looks kind of funny.

 

[ulukinatme]

Side bar question: If a lineman fires out and engages the person he is blocking and that person eventually turns his back on the lineman...can the lineman continue pushing him in the back? Or does that become blocking in the back at that point? Many time Tommy is pushing his guy down the field and the guy turns around (probably to avoid the pure pancake). Tommy stays on him anyway...it looks kind of funny.

That would constitute a block in the back (outside of the Free Blocking Zone), but I think most linemen are not going to see that happen at the next level very often. At the college level I would expect a player getting blocked to turn sideways to pursue the ball carrier prior to turning completely around from the lineman. That is unless the RB is running between the tackles and just blows by the linemen and LBs without getting slowed down ala Cierre Wood against Oklahoma in 2012. Still, if it's a DE or LB getting blocked by a offensive linemen they should be able to turn and outrun the big guy without getting pancaked in that situation.

 

[pkt77242]

That would constitute a block in the back, but I think most linemen are not going to see that happen at the next level very often. At the college level I would expect a player getting blocked to turn sideways to pursue the ball carrier prior to turning completely around from the lineman. That is unless the RB is running between the tackles and just blows by the linemen and LBs without getting slowed down ala Cierre Wood against Oklahoma in 2012. Still, if it's a DE or LB getting blocked by a offensive linemen they should be able to turn and outrun the big guy without getting pancaked in that situation.

I don't think so. If you are blocking someone legally (from the front or side) and they turn their back on you, you can keep blocking them (even if it is in the back).

 

[GowerND11]

Side bar question: If a lineman fires out and engages the person he is blocking and that person eventually turns his back on the lineman...can the lineman continue pushing him in the back? Or does that become blocking in the back at that point? Many time Tommy is pushing his guy down the field and the guy turns around (probably to avoid the pure pancake). Tommy stays on him anyway...it looks kind of funny.

That would constitute a block in the back, but I think most linemen are not going to see that happen at the next level very often. At the college level I would expect a player getting blocked to turn sideways to pursue the ball carrier prior to turning completely around from the lineman. That is unless the RB is running between the tackles and just blows by the linemen and LBs without getting slowed down ala Cierre Wood against Oklahoma in 2012. Still, if it's a DE or LB getting blocked by a offensive linemen they should be able to turn and outrun the big guy without getting pancaked in that situation.

From my understanding, it is not a block in the back because the defensive player is making a deliberate move to turn around. Much the same as during a pass rush and a DE performs a spin move, a lineman is allowed to remain engaged. He cannot, however, begin blocking while the back is turned since that would constitute a block in the back.

 

[ulukinatme]

From my understanding, it is not a block in the back because the defensive player is making a deliberate move to turn around. Much the same as during a pass rush and a DE performs a spin move, a lineman is allowed to remain engaged. He cannot, however, begin blocking while the back is turned since that would constitute a block in the back.

A spin move is certainly different, since the defender is making a deliberate move to spin and try and get around the lineman. There's a term officials have coined called the "Free Blocking Zone" which allows for a lineman to block a defender in the back at the line of scrimmage. It's the same area that clipping is allowed in. However, if the defender does a 180 and is pursuing a defender well past the line of scrimmage I would consider that defender to be disengaging from the lineman for all intents and purposes and outside the zone. You also run the risk of a referee not seeing the previous scuffle and throwing a flag I would imagine.

We're dealing in hypotheticals here I think. I don't expect this kind of thing to happen often at the college level. OL guys are typically the slowest guys on the field, and traditionally the only defender that is in their league is a DT/NT. A DE or LB is more agile and quick enough most times to turn and outrun a blocker.

I should rephrase my initial response since it's a tricky subject.

 

[GowerND11]

A spin move is certainly different, since the defender is making a deliberate move to spin and try and get around the lineman. There's a term officials have coined called the "Free Blocking Zone" which allows for a lineman to block a defender in the back at the line of scrimmage. It's the same area that clipping is allowed in. However, if the defender does a 180 and is pursuing a defender well past the line of scrimmage I would consider that defender to be disengaging from the lineman for all intents and purposes and outside the zone. You also run the risk of a referee not seeing the previous scuffle and throwing a flag I would imagine.

We're dealing in hypotheticals here I think. I don't expect this kind of thing to happen often at the college level. OL guys are typically the slowest guys on the field, and traditionally the only defender that is in their league is a DT/NT. A DE or LB is more agile and quick enough most times to turn and outrun a blocker.

I should rephrase my initial response since it's a tricky subject.

You're right. I doubt it would happen at the collegiate level as well. Certainly plausible, but highly unlikely.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

We can always hope!

 

[dublinirish]

Romeo should try a spin move and hope for a block in the back on every play, it sounds more productive than what he currently does :/

 

[JughedJones]

I know I've asked this before, and I think I know the answer, but...

What's up with the wild swings between Scout, Rivals, and ESPN?

I understand that a lot of this is subjective, but from top 20 over all to 150th overall? That just seems insane, and you see it all the time when you pay attention to recruiting.

What gives?

 

[ThePiombino]

I know I've asked this before, and I think I know the answer, but...

What's up with the wild swings between Scout, Rivals, and ESPN?

I understand that a lot of this is subjective, but from top 20 over all to 150th overall? That just seems insane, and you see it all the time when you pay attention to recruiting.

What gives?

My bet is on AA game affiliation. Seriously.

 

[KPENN]

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