College Football Playoff Rankings 2015 (ND #8...)

[wizards8507]

You guys don't give Notre Dame enough credit. You don't get to number five based on a loss. You get there because of your wins.

 

[greyhammer90]

You guys don't give Notre Dame enough credit. You don't get to number five based on a loss. You get there because of your wins.

*Reads comment*
*Reads username*
*Rubs eyes*

 

[Grahambo]

Notre Dame's SoS has been top 5-15, depending on who's doing the evaluating. I haven't seen an Iowa SoS stronger than 50th.

Damn you and your research.

 

[Booslum31]

I know the team tries to focus on their next game but this first ranking has to fire them up a bit.

 

[Irish#1]

It's very simple. Win out and hope all of our opponents win out except for that one game.

 

[ulukinatme]

You guys don't give Notre Dame enough credit. You don't get to number five based on a loss. You get there because of your wins.

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 5-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

 

[koonja]

No one here honestly believes that if we win out, there's a chance we're not in. You might say it, but you're just looking for confirmation.

 

[Irishman77]

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 3-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

Grow a pair. We are as good as anybody.

 

[GATTACA!]

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 3-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

ND ranking makes more sense when you consider last 4 opponents are 8-0, 7-1, 5-3, and 7-1.

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[dwshade]

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 3-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

Absurd statement of the thread, "our wins are not impressive."

 

[fightingirish26]

I think that we should root for Oklahoma to win out

 

[condoms SUCk]

I think the committee is impressed with what ND has accomplished with the injuries sustained.

 

[johnnycando]

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 3-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

Bruh.

You need a specialist to prescribe you happy pills.

 

[NDWorld247]

No one here honestly believes that if we win out, there's a chance we're not in. You might say it, but you're just looking for confirmation.

I honestly believe if we win out, we still need help. Last year proved conference championships matter. Therefore, my belief all season has been we need two of five P5 conferences to "cannibalize" (my favorite word in CFB today) each other and produce two-loss champions. These rankings don't change that belief.

History (looking at BCS era) suggests less than four conference champs will finish with 0 or 1 loss more than 85% of the time, but this year is trending towards an atypical year in college football (e.g. So many undefeated teams this late in season).

I feel good about the Pac12 missing out (thanks to ND knocking off Stanford), but I don't feel great about any of the other conferences producing a two loss champion UNLESS there's a CCG upset. The Big12 champ will have 0-1 losses. I don't see OSU/MSU losing twice before the CCG. SEC could with Ole Miss/UF, but it's the SEC. Best shot with the ACC is FSU beats Clemson and loses to UF.

Regardless, it's going to be a fun five weeks!

 

[KPENN]

Okay, fair enough, but who was our most impressive win?
The 3-3 Trojans?
3-6 GT?
3-5 Virginia?

Temple. Temple is the only really impressive win we've had, and it wasn't impressive considering the finish. Even though they're 6-1 this year most people aren't going to hang their hat on Temple given their one hit wonder status.

Our wins are not impressive. Our record is great, but the Clemson loss is the biggest thing we have going for us.

USC is 5-3. If you're gonna use current records for the others at least use theirs too.

 

[Blaise]

No one here honestly believes that if we win out, there's a chance we're not in. You might say it, but you're just looking for confirmation.

I'm not sure we r in if we win out... An undefeated Big 12 team will hop us.. TCU beating Baylor, Oklahoma and Oklahoma st will give them enough quality wins to get to top 4... Clemson.. SEC champ and undefeated big 10 champ...

 

[irishfanjho15]

USC is 5-3. If you're gonna use current records for the others at least use theirs too.

Not to mention SC has a win over then #3 Utah and GT has a win over FSU. Also Texas gave Oklahoma their only loss. And the committee believes Temple is a legit top 25 team, which ND beat on the road. ND also has a solid win over a borderline top 25 one loss Navy team.

While not the most daunting schedule, ND has beat plenty of teams that have proven they are as good as some of the country's best teams on any given Saturday.

 

[In Lou I Trust]

Notre Dame's SoS has been top 5-15, depending on who's doing the evaluating. I haven't seen an Iowa SoS stronger than 50th.

Our Temple win isn't impressive. At all. USC is down. Navy is Navy. GTech sucks. Virginia is garbage. Texas is a disgrace. UMass - enough said. If that reads like a top 5-15 schedule, you may be illiterate. Don't get me wrong, I'm fucking thrilled that we're where we are, but let's not kid ourselves... our brand name has helped a lot. Our best win is our loss to Clemson, and even their schedule isn't impressive.

 

[Blaise]

Our Temple win isn't impressive. At all. USC is down. Navy is Navy. GTech sucks. Virginia is garbage. Texas is a disgrace. UMass - enough said. If that reads like a top 5-15 schedule, you may be illiterate. Don't get me wrong, I'm fucking thrilled that we're where we are, but let's not kid ourselves... our brand name has helped a lot. Our best win is our loss to Clemson, and even their schedule isn't impressive.

Well every computer ranking system that does SOS has our schedule 5-15.. They don't take brand name into account... Temple is 7-1, Clemson is 8-0, Navy is 7-1... You may hate on Navy and Temple, but the ranking systems don't

 

[ulukinatme]

USC is 5-3. If you're gonna use current records for the others at least use theirs too.

Sorry, it was a typo, it's corrected.


In any case, for those that say I need happy pills, I'm fine. My post was in response to wizard's statement that we're sitting at #5 based on our wins and not our loss, which is partly true but far from the truth. Clemson is ranked #1 in the playoff ranking, ahead of the defending champ OSU and LSU, both of which are higher than Clemson in at least one or both polls. We have one win against a ranked team, which is great, but it wasn't exactly impressive given the circumstances and the fact it was Temple. If Temple loses to Memphis and/or other teams, voters will care even less that we escaped the Owls.

Right now a 2 point loss to undefeated Clemson at night in Death Valley in a damn hurricane looks better than anyone else's 1 loss in the country. While our wins certainly carry weight, the committee is showing obvious favoritism towards SoS right now based on Clemson's ranking, the Big 12 being shut out of the Top 5, and the fact we're sitting at #5 over an unbeaten an impressive Baylor. You don't get to #5 based on just escaping Temple and beating 5-3 USC. I should give Navy more credit, since their one loss is to us, but after that the toughest team they've faced is UConn.

 

[NDRock]

Now that I think about it, my dream scenario would be:

- We win out.

- Clemson wins out.

- Iowa comes out of the Big 10.

- One of the Big 12 teams make it through.

- Ole Miss wins out, wins the West. UF loses to FSU but wins the East. The winner wins the SEC with 2 losses.

This would keep the SEC out of the playoffs, chaos would ensue causing the playoffs to expand to eight teams. An eight team playoff would mean there would be no reason for us to join a conference.

 

[Legacy]

If ND or Bama wins out and don't seriously struggle in multiple games or look really bad while doing so, it's hard to imagine a realistic scenario where either would be left out of the playoffs. At least one of the teams ahead of ND will lose (Bama vs LSU guarantees that), and the odds that at least one of the remaining 3 teams will drop a game in the next month are very high.

The SEC champ is not necessarily guaranteed a spot though. Consider this real possibility:

1. Bama beats LSU and wins out.

2. Ole Miss wins the rest of their SEC games and thus clinches the SECW, but looks bad doing so or drops an OOC game.

3. Ole Miss faces UF in the SECCG, but UF has also looked bad down the stretch or lost another game.

4. The SEC champ would have 2 losses and be ranked outside the top 10, or 1 loss and have looked bad down the stretch and barely be in the top 10.

The committee would be very unlikely to send them to the playoff. They'd probably take an 11-1 Bama who'd be ranked 3rd or 4th. I don't think that is likely, as I believe LSU will kill Ole Miss later this month and the winner of the Bama-LSU game will win the SECW, but it's not far-fetched either.

True dat.

And if Florida wins out, what if their strength of schedule kept them (the SEC champ) out of the Playoff?

They played in the weaker SEC East. In cross-division play they lost to LSU (by 7 points) but soundly beat an Ole Miss team that may not finish strong. In OOC, they played NM St (1-7), East Carolina (4-5), FAU (2-6), and Florida State (7-1). They would need the wins over FSU and the SEC West champion to help get in the top four, instead of relying on their OOC scheduling.

The message would be clear again that SOS matters. Florida did not play an FCS team, though NM St is pretty close.

 

[wizards8507]

Sorry, it was a typo, it's corrected.


In any case, for those that say I need happy pills, I'm fine. My post was in response to wizard's statement that we're sitting at #5 based on our wins and not our loss, which is partly true but far from the truth. Clemson is ranked #1 in the playoff ranking, ahead of the defending champ OSU and LSU, both of which are higher than Clemson in at least one or both polls. We have one win against a ranked team, which is great, but it wasn't exactly impressive given the circumstances and the fact it was Temple. If Temple loses to Memphis and/or other teams, voters will care even less that we escaped the Owls.

Right now a 2 point loss to undefeated Clemson at night in Death Valley in a damn hurricane looks better than anyone else's 1 loss in the country. While our wins certainly carry weight, the committee is showing obvious favoritism towards SoS right now based on Clemson's ranking, the Big 12 being shut out of the Top 5, and the fact we're sitting at #5 over an unbeaten an impressive Baylor. You don't get to #5 based on just escaping Temple and beating 5-3 USC. I should give Navy more credit, since their one loss is to us, but after that the toughest team they've faced is UConn.

Clemson would explain if we were the top rated one loss team, but we're not. We're ahead of undefeated teams.

Also a single loss from Clemson wouldn't do dick to our SOS.

 

[blueNDgold44]

All of you mf'ers

 

[yankeeND]

Just a great past few weeks for the Irish! Beat USC, had a huge recruiting weekend, was able to rest up and heal during the bye, landed Kareem, beat a ranked Temple team, landed another stud in Beal, and to top it off, opened #5 in the playoff's top 25.

I know there were some negatives too, but the good definitely outweighs the bad here, and if Kelly has figured it out, we should be right in the thick of things till the end.

 

[johnnycando]

Sorry, it was a typo, it's corrected.


In any case, for those that say I need happy pills, I'm fine. My post was in response to wizard's statement that we're sitting at #5 based on our wins and not our loss, which is partly true but far from the truth. Clemson is ranked #1 in the playoff ranking, ahead of the defending champ OSU and LSU, both of which are higher than Clemson in at least one or both polls. We have one win against a ranked team, which is great, but it wasn't exactly impressive given the circumstances and the fact it was Temple. If Temple loses to Memphis and/or other teams, voters will care even less that we escaped the Owls.

Right now a 2 point loss to undefeated Clemson at night in Death Valley in a damn hurricane looks better than anyone else's 1 loss in the country. While our wins certainly carry weight, the committee is showing obvious favoritism towards SoS right now based on Clemson's ranking, the Big 12 being shut out of the Top 5, and the fact we're sitting at #5 over an unbeaten an impressive Baylor. You don't get to #5 based on just escaping Temple and beating 5-3 USC. I should give Navy more credit, since their one loss is to us, but after that the toughest team they've faced is UConn.

If Navy wins this weekend, this too shall pass.

Like a large fibrous turd hung up in the colon.

 

[yankeeND]

If Navy wins this weekend, this too shall pass.

Like a large fibrous turd hung up in the colon.

Get in the zone, Anzalone lol.

 

[johnnycando]

Get I the zone, Anzalone lol.

Anal zone never gets old.

 

[ulukinatme]

Clemson would explain if we were the top rated one loss team, but we're not. We're ahead of undefeated teams.

Also a single loss from Clemson wouldn't do dick to our SOS.

Despite the FCS team, Alabama has had a fair slate of games. Our loss to Clemson is certainly more impressive than their loss to Ole Miss, but their wins have been more impressive I'd wager. Who is the next 1 loss team though? Florida, who lost a close one to undefeated LSU. While Stanford is ranked right with us in the AP and Coaches polls, their 1 loss to East Stanford/Northwestern doesn't look so hot and they're much farther down the playoff picture. I'd say Stanford's schedule is fairly comparable to our own in just about every way except for the 1 loss. Their close escape from WSU is our Virginia. Their UCF game is our UMass. They played USC to the same exact score we did, although it was in the Coliseum. UCLA, despite 2 losses, is effectively their Temple.

As far as Clemson losing 1 not hurting our SoS, maybe not in a huge way, but if Clemson were to lose to FSU this weekend I bet we don't move up to #4.

 

[gkIrish]

Stanford winning every game before we play them is soooo important. The Big 12 and Big 10 are going to have some head to head top 10 matchups in the last 2-3 weeks of the season. I think it's very likely we get jumped by a Big 12 before it's all said and done. So we will need a big time win in week 12 to jump back up.

Temple or Navy could really help us by beating Memphis.