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Pete Sampson just published II's "Insider's Preview: USC":

Irish Illustrated caught up with Ryan Abraham of USCFootball.com to talk Trojans, present and future. Where does USC go from here and what will Notre Dame face on Saturday?

Pete Sampson: How surprised are you about the Steve Sarkisian situation considering you’re around USC every day?

Ryan Abraham: To me, the fallout from the Salute to Troy event changed the game. When he came out and insinuated a substance abuse problem, when he came out and talked about mixing prescription drugs and alcohol and getting treatment, that made it real to me. The part that stuck with me was that he promised that he wouldn’t drink anymore this year. After that, OK, you have to keep your nose clean or you could be legitimately fired at any point in the season. I don’t know if any of the reaction recently stemmed from losing to Stanford and Washington, but it wasn’t even close to keeping your nose clean for Sarkisian. It was completely the opposite.

Once that happened, once he was suspended, I didn’t think he’d be able to come back. You can’t do that.

The real failure to me is on the administration side. Because if you heard about this culture when he was at Washington and even going back to being an assistant at USC, followed by Salute to Troy, and you have him do up-downs and give him a talking to, that’s not treatment. This is a real problem. You have to get him serious help. I know it’s the beginning of the season, but you could save his life by sending him to treatment. I think the University did him a big disservice. I put a lot of this on the administration. How you didn’t know and how you didn’t get him in treatment before the season is just baffling.

PS: What do you think USC needs moving forward? You’ve seen the lists of 52 names that might fit. Who appeals to you?

RA: I made up some rules.

No. 1: No one who has had anything to do ever with Pete Carroll. You can’t try to recreate that over and over. You’re 0-for-2 with Carroll assistants. If you coached for Pete Carroll, you’re off the list.

No. 2: People talk about coaches off the beaten path. No. That’s all they’ve been doing. Get a proven college head coach who has won at a high level. Yes, that means USC wouldn’t have hired Pete Carroll in the first place. But at this point USC doesn’t need to try to hire another Pete Carroll, another NFL retread who’s fired up. That’s not happening. He was a once in a millennium hire.

No. 3: Don’t hire anybody on the hot seat. If they might get fired, you probably don’t want them. This is a Top Five job to me. Look at it as, “Would Ohio State, Notre Dame or Alabama hire that guy?” In the case of Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian, the answer is no. They wouldn’t have hired either of them.

PS: At some jobs I understand “getting” the school being important. Notre Dame might be one of those spots. But USC is in Los Angeles and has five-star recruits running around all over the place. What’s to get? Do you really need a connection to get it to work?

RA: I agree with you. That came from the administration more than anything. Pete Carroll didn’t get USC. But once they got that glory back, USC has just been trying to hold onto that magic. You can’t recreate that and they’ve been trying to do that. I don’t think this is a job where you need to get the culture to make it work.

Yeah, there are some culture things here, open access, media, spotlight. Would Chris Petersen or Chip Kelly work here? We haven’t seen that. That could be a thing where if you’re not good with the media or don’t let people talk to the media, people will just tune you out. You could be irrelevant. That’s one thing people are wary about, but I don’t know if that’s really a big deal. You don’t need to be a USC guy to get USC. It’s working at Michigan and it might work at Notre Dame, but I don’t get that.

PS: One thing Notre Dame did in hiring Brian Kelly is they only looked at current college head coaches. That’s it. Is that what USC needs now, combined with getting outside the Carroll regime? Who do you like?

RA: I think that’s a great criteria. I would agree with that, with the exception of Chip Kelly considering he’s won big in college. Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier would be exceptions too because they’ve had success in college.

Kyle Whitingham’s name comes up quite a bit. He’s been at Utah quite a while. Not sure if he would leave. It’s funny to see Brian Kelly’s name come up and Jim Mora’s name come up. It’s hard to picture a rival coach doing that. Jimbo Fisher’s name at Florida State, if he wants to stick in the ACC. Kevin Sumlin is somebody they took a semi-serious run at before, but I’m not sure they can again. He’s got a young, talented teams. Not sure he’d want to go anywhere.

PS: On the field, how much do you think USC is underachieving right now or is that impossible to measure because of off-the-field stuff?

RA: The more stuff that comes out with Sarkisian being under the influence at football events, that makes you think differently about questioning coaching decisions. What kind of leadership were these guys getting? The Washington game, they just didn’t look like the same team. Yes, that happens in college football when teams look different from week to week, but when you hear these stories you wonder if they were really getting the best coaching available. Will they get that going forward?

Talent-wise, I still think they’re a Top 10 team. I think they might be the most talented team in the Pac-12. They certainly haven’t played like the best team. If you look at the ESPN FPI, the only game they’re not favored to win is Notre Dame. They’re even favored over Utah, which is crazy. The talent is there, but I don’t know. Could getting rid of the head coach who’s having issues be a big boost? I don’t know. We just don’t know how they’re going to react.

PS: How significant is losing center Max Tuerk for the year? How healthy is USC right now?

RA: They have seven or eight guys on the offensive line that they like, so it’s not like a couple years ago when USC lost its center and it was a disaster against Stanford. They have Toa Lobendahn to replace him and he’s like a Swiss army knife on the line. He’s played every position. They did more under center stuff with him in the game last week and I thought they did a pretty good job.

Tuerk is a great player, but USC thinks it has a good player to replace him. Other than Tuerk, they’ve been relatively healthy all year. Tuerk is really the first starter to go down for the year.

PS: Is the offensive identity of this team much different from last year when USC blew out Notre Dame? Other than freshman running back Ronald Jones, this seems like very similar talent.

RA: The run game is different because it’s a Tre Madden-Justin Davis-Ronald Jones thing. They have some weird rotation that I don’t quite understand because you’ll see a guy get hot and then they take him out. They’ve all had big play moments, but the cohesiveness in the run game hasn’t been there.

The passing game is more about JuJu Smith being the main target. They don’t use the tight end really at all. Steven Mitchell has kind of emerged at receiver. They’ve used Adoree Jackson in different ways, sometimes not at all, sometimes a lot. He’s that X-factor. Washington did a great job of shutting him down. Every time he caught a pass there was someone there.

PS: Defensively, replacing Leonard Williams was going to be impossible, but I was surprised watching the Washington game how many freshmen and young guys were into the game. What do you make of that side of the ball?

RA: It’s been a disappointment for the most part. They have a lot of bodies. The defensive line is a big rotation and a lot of true freshmen are playing, but you haven’t seen a spectacular edge rusher. There’s not consistent pressure. There’s not a lot of blitzing. You see guys get engaged in blocks and not make plays. There’s not a lot of tackles for loss (USC ranks No. 101 in TFLs).

The defense really comes down to individual matchups. Linebacker Su’a Cravens can break through and make a play on his own, but team-wise you’re not seeing guys in great positions. It’s been pedestrian up front without Leonard Williams. They’re deeper, but they don’t have playmakers.

PS: Putting you on the spot. Give me a prediction.

RA: I think USC could come in and play lights-out, winning by a couple touchdowns. I could see Notre Dame blowing USC’s doors off and boat racing them. But if I had to take one, I’d say a close game, 28-24 to Notre Dame. If it’s close, I don’t think USC is going to have a lot of success. You can’t expect them to pull something out when they haven’t been able to come back in many games anyway. If USC wins, they have to get up. It’s a front-running offense. When the offense is clicking early, they seem to be able to keep it going.
 

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Was there a press conference today?

Yes, here's the video link.

http://watchnd.tv/#!/videos/M2MWY2eDpWPTlEGEFpvszMgVoQtJpFhc

Q. KVR rusty?

K. He's playing a little more agressive. There's a change in technique under BVG from Diaco. More Man now.

Q. Does the front 7 need more consisitency?

Discussed secondary

Q. With Clay as Interim H.C. will he plug in more of his own plays.

K. Doubt it. Could but will probably go with what they're comfortable with.

Q. Grier UF OTC Supplements

K. Strength & Training Staff on it. Walk through locker checks. Education. "I lost a player to this early in my career."

Q. Last year USC game.

K. Last year outmanned. They have many talented players, we were short players. We also didn't exhibit mental toughness. This team exhibits mental toughness every game. Midterms this week.

Q. Sheldon Day Play

K. Impressed with performance. Praised mental approach. Disregarded the cut blocks flew around on the field.

Q. Showtime

K. "No Longer and experiment now a way of life. Had to learn to disconnect the mike when going to the bathrooom.

Q. Newsome power kicking surprise?

K. No hard worker. Live in weight room.

Q. Kessler/ Will ND pressure center with Max Turek out

K. Kessler talented QB. Turek fine center makes the calls.

Q. Coaching support (I believe in regard to Sark)

K. Coaches Association and university health plans mentioned.

Q. USA Today has you #2 on list of possible SC replacements.

K. We have a saying around here, "Avoid the noise. That's noise."

Q. Spurrier

K. Complimentary. Helped advance the passing game in college FB.

Q. Post Navy Game 2-6 Slowdown

K. They play a physical game. They bang the heck out of you for 4 quarters. We'll rest in the Bye Week after USC. Not Playing in Arizona in 85 degree heat will be a break for us from last year. "There will no Navy Effect this Saturday."

Q. What's Team schedule for the break.

K. In to watch film Sunday. Off from then till Saturday night.

Q. Recruiting weekends numbers.

K. Each year we set a max number for a weeken then we change it for Joe Smith who runs a 4.2 40 and presses 700 pounds. We try to make them all important, face time when we can. Have to keep the guys already with scholarships happy too.

Q. Yoon 52 yard FG

K. It was on the edge of this range. A little wind behind it. Confident. That FG and KO fumble and TD were quick 10 pts for us.

No callers.
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Aside from discussing Turek, there was no mention of any other injured players, ND or USC.
 

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Pete Sampson just published II's "Insider's Preview: USC":

RA: The run game is different because it’s a Tre Madden-Justin Davis-Ronald Jones thing. They have some weird rotation that I don’t quite understand because you’ll see a guy get hot and then they take him out. They’ve all had big play moments, but the cohesiveness in the run game hasn’t been there.

Reminds me of ND last year.
 

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Bars Listed Ahead Of Nelson

Bars Listed Ahead Of Nelson

USC GAME, ND TWO DEEP

Notre Dame Offense
WR 2 ***CHRIS BROWN 6-1 1/2 195 Sr./4
or 88 **Corey Robinson 6-4 1/2 215 Jr./3
WR 3 **Amir Carlisle 5-10 195 Gr./4
or 16 *Torii Hunter Jr. 6-0 195 Jr./2
LT 78 **RONNIE STANLEY 6-5 1/2 315 Sr./3
70 Hunter Bivin 6-5 1/2 302 Jr./2
LG 71 Alex Bars 6-6 320 So./1
or 56 Quenton Nelson 6-4 3/4 325 So./1
C 72 ***NICK MARTIN 6-4 1/2 301 Gr./4
53 Sam Mustipher 6-2 3/4 305 So./1
RG 79 **STEVE ELMER 6-5 1/2 315 Jr./3
62 Colin McGovern 6-4 1/2 315 Jr./2
RT 68 *Mike McGlinchey 6-7 1/2 310 Jr./2
75 Mark Harrell 6-4 306 Sr./3
TE 13 *Tyler Luatua 6-2 1/2 255 So./2
or 82 Nic Weishar 6-4 241 So./1
or 18 **Chase Hounshell 6-4 1/2 255 Gr./4
or 10 Alizé Jones 6-4 1/2 240 Fr./1
WR 7 **WILL FULLER 6-0 184 Jr./3
86 Equanimeous St. Brown 6-4 205 Fr./1
QB 14 DeShone Kizer 6-4 1/4 230 So./1
12 Brandon Wimbush 6-1 216 Fr./1
RB 20 *C.J. Prosise 6-0 1/2 220 Sr./3
33 Josh Adams 6-1 1/2 212 Fr./1
34 Dexter Williams 5-11 200 Fr./1

Notre Dame Special Teams
KO 85 Tyler Newsome 6-2 1/2 205 So./1
19 Justin Yoon 5-9 3/4 185 Fr./1
PK 19 Justin Yoon 5-9 3/4 185 Fr./1
43 John Chereson 5-9 178 Jr./2
P 85 Tyler Newsome 6-2 1/2 205 So./1
42 Jeff Riney 5-9 3/4 165 Fr./1
LS 61 **Scott Daly 6-1 1/2 250 Sr./3
99 *Hunter Smith 6-3 213 Sr./2
or 82 Nic Weishar 6-4 241 So./1

Notre Dame Defense
DL 45 ***ROMEO OKWARA 6-3 3/4 270 Sr./4
98 *Andrew Trumbetti 6-3 1/2 260 So./2
DL 91 ***SHELDON DAY 6-2 285 Sr./4
93 Jay Hayes 6-3 285 So./2
DL 75 *Daniel Cage 6-0 3/4 315 So./2
or 99 Jerry Tillery 6-6 1/2 305 Fr./1
DL 90 *ISAAC ROCHELL 6-3 1/2 287 Jr./3
55 Jonathan Bonner 6-3 275 So./1
LB 38 ***JOE SCHMIDT 6-0 1/2 235 Gr./4
5 *Nyles Morgan 6-0 3/4 240 So./2
or 59 **Jarrett Grace 6-2 1/2 253 Gr./4
LB 9 **JAYLON SMITH 6-2 1/4 240 Jr./3
4 Te'von Coney 6-0 3/4 235 Fr./1
LB 17 **JAMES ONWUALU 6-1 232 Jr./3
48 *Greer Martini 6-2 1/2 245 So./2
CB 6 **KeiVarae Russell 5-11 196 Sr./3
12 *Devin Butler 6-0 1/2 200 Jr./3
S 10 **MAX REDFIELD 6-1 205 Jr./3
or 41 ***Matthias Farley 5-11 210 Gr./4
S 22 ***ELIJAH SHUMATE 6-0 224 Sr./4
29 *Nicky Baratti 6-1 210 Sr./3
CB 36 **COLE LUKE 5-11 193 Jr./3
24 Nick Coleman 5-11 1/2 185 Fr./1

Notre Dame Special Teams
HLD 14 DeShone Kizer 6-4 1/4 230 So./1
4 Montgomery VanGorder 6-0 1/4 215 So./1
PR 9 C.J. Sanders 5-8 185 Fr./1
7 **Will Fuller 6-0 184 Jr./3
KR 9 C.J. Sanders 5-8 185 Fr./1
or 3 **Amir Carlisle 5-10 195 Gr./4
or 33 Josh Adams 6-1 1/2 212 Fr./1

Class (academic year)/Eligibility (athletic season)
* Number of monograms earned
ALL CAPS - returning starter from 2014
 
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Navy, then midterms, then SC? That can't be a recipe for goods things.
 

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USC GAME, ND TWO DEEP

Notre Dame Offense
WR 2 ***CHRIS BROWN 6-1 1/2 195 Sr./4
or 88 **Corey Robinson 6-4 1/2 215 Jr./3
WR 3 **Amir Carlisle 5-10 195 Gr./4
or 16 *Torii Hunter Jr. 6-0 195 Jr./2
LT 78 **RONNIE STANLEY 6-5 1/2 315 Sr./3
70 Hunter Bivin 6-5 1/2 302 Jr./2
LG 71 Alex Bars 6-6 320 So./1
or 56 Quenton Nelson 6-4 3/4 325 So./1
C 72 ***NICK MARTIN 6-4 1/2 301 Gr./4
53 Sam Mustipher 6-2 3/4 305 So./1
RG 79 **STEVE ELMER 6-5 1/2 315 Jr./3
62 Colin McGovern 6-4 1/2 315 Jr./2
RT 68 *Mike McGlinchey 6-7 1/2 310 Jr./2
75 Mark Harrell 6-4 306 Sr./3
TE 13 *Tyler Luatua 6-2 1/2 255 So./2
or 82 Nic Weishar 6-4 241 So./1
or 18 **Chase Hounshell 6-4 1/2 255 Gr./4
or 10 Alizé Jones 6-4 1/2 240 Fr./1
WR 7 **WILL FULLER 6-0 184 Jr./3
86 Equanimeous St. Brown 6-4 205 Fr./1
QB 14 DeShone Kizer 6-4 1/4 230 So./1
12 Brandon Wimbush 6-1 216 Fr./1
RB 20 *C.J. Prosise 6-0 1/2 220 Sr./3
33 Josh Adams 6-1 1/2 212 Fr./1
34 Dexter Williams 5-11 200 Fr./1

Notre Dame Special Teams
KO 85 Tyler Newsome 6-2 1/2 205 So./1
19 Justin Yoon 5-9 3/4 185 Fr./1
PK 19 Justin Yoon 5-9 3/4 185 Fr./1
43 John Chereson 5-9 178 Jr./2
P 85 Tyler Newsome 6-2 1/2 205 So./1
42 Jeff Riney 5-9 3/4 165 Fr./1
LS 61 **Scott Daly 6-1 1/2 250 Sr./3
99 *Hunter Smith 6-3 213 Sr./2
or 82 Nic Weishar 6-4 241 So./1

Notre Dame Defense
DL 45 ***ROMEO OKWARA 6-3 3/4 270 Sr./4
98 *Andrew Trumbetti 6-3 1/2 260 So./2
DL 91 ***SHELDON DAY 6-2 285 Sr./4
93 Jay Hayes 6-3 285 So./2
DL 75 *Daniel Cage 6-0 3/4 315 So./2
or 99 Jerry Tillery 6-6 1/2 305 Fr./1
DL 90 *ISAAC ROCHELL 6-3 1/2 287 Jr./3
55 Jonathan Bonner 6-3 275 So./1
LB 38 ***JOE SCHMIDT 6-0 1/2 235 Gr./4
5 *Nyles Morgan 6-0 3/4 240 So./2
or 59 **Jarrett Grace 6-2 1/2 253 Gr./4
LB 9 **JAYLON SMITH 6-2 1/4 240 Jr./3
4 Te'von Coney 6-0 3/4 235 Fr./1
LB 17 **JAMES ONWUALU 6-1 232 Jr./3
48 *Greer Martini 6-2 1/2 245 So./2
CB 6 **KeiVarae Russell 5-11 196 Sr./3
12 *Devin Butler 6-0 1/2 200 Jr./3
S 10 **MAX REDFIELD 6-1 205 Jr./3
or 41 ***Matthias Farley 5-11 210 Gr./4
S 22 ***ELIJAH SHUMATE 6-0 224 Sr./4
29 *Nicky Baratti 6-1 210 Sr./3
CB 36 **COLE LUKE 5-11 193 Jr./3
24 Nick Coleman 5-11 1/2 185 Fr./1

Notre Dame Special Teams
HLD 14 DeShone Kizer 6-4 1/4 230 So./1
4 Montgomery VanGorder 6-0 1/4 215 So./1
PR 9 C.J. Sanders 5-8 185 Fr./1
7 **Will Fuller 6-0 184 Jr./3
KR 9 C.J. Sanders 5-8 185 Fr./1
or 3 **Amir Carlisle 5-10 195 Gr./4
or 33 Josh Adams 6-1 1/2 212 Fr./1

Class (academic year)/Eligibility (athletic season)
* Number of monograms earned
ALL CAPS - returning starter from 2014

Ah yes, Joe "Michigan" Schmidt. It all makes sense now.

EDIT: Did you edit out all the "Michigan"s between their names, or did that never happen and I'm taking crazy pills?
 

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Ah yes, Joe "Michigan" Schmidt. It all makes sense now.

EDIT: Did you edit out all the "Michigan"s between their names, or did that never happen and I'm taking crazy pills?


I thought I edited it out between everyone's First and Last names and in their height. Sorry if I missed one but I don't see it in my post.
 

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RA: It’s been a disappointment for the most part. They have a lot of bodies. The defensive line is a big rotation and a lot of true freshmen are playing, but you haven’t seen a spectacular edge rusher. There’s not consistent pressure. There’s not a lot of blitzing. You see guys get engaged in blocks and not make plays. There’s not a lot of tackles for loss (USC ranks No. 101 in TFLs).

The defense really comes down to individual matchups. Linebacker Su’a Cravens can break through and make a play on his own, but team-wise you’re not seeing guys in great positions. It’s been pedestrian up front without Leonard Williams. They’re deeper, but they don’t have playmakers.


Substitute names (Day and Smith) and this sounds like ND.
 
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I thought I edited it out between everyone's First and Last names and in their height. Sorry if I missed one but I don't see it in my post.

It's gone now, it was there before I started writing and now it all appears fine.
 

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This game is going to suck. When we win it will be 'we beat a team in disarray and we were suppose to win'. We lose.

If we lose, we lose to a team in disarray, even worse.

The only win we can get is in the "Win" column.

Screw 'em, let's kick their ass because well...... We can.
 

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No turnovers
Good special teams
Balanced attack
Swarming D
Irish Frenzy
= Victory....keep marching forward
 

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This game is going to suck. When we win it will be 'we beat a team in disarray and we were suppose to win'. We lose.

If we lose, we lose to a team in disarray, even worse.

The only win we can get is in the "Win" column.

Screw 'em, let's kick their ass because well...... We can.

Pretty sure if we blow the doors off, it will earn us some respect.
 

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I like the temps in the 40's. Might give us a slight edge. If we see heaters on the USC sideline, we'll win.
 

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High is listed as 51 right now. I would guess it will be in the low 40's near the end of the game....

Just mentioned on the Dan Patrick show it is supposed to be 39 at kickoff with a low of 32 over the course of the game. Going to be quite a change for the Condoms since it has been in the triple digits in So Cal this past week or so.
 

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Just mentioned on the Dan Patrick show it is supposed to be 39 at kickoff with a low of 32 over the course of the game. Going to be quite a change for the Condoms since it has been in the triple digits in So Cal this past week or so.

Just on weather.com and it says Saturday in Notre dame, IN:

High 48
Low 33
Sunset 7:02

With sunset a half hour plus before kickoff, you know it will be in the thirties most of the game.
 

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I love fall!!

Picturing the Miami team during the Sun Bowl - they were miserable.
 

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My NDptsd is kicking in big time, they fire their coach, it's going to be freezing freakin cold (By So Cal standards), they already lost twice and can't seem to stop the run...

all signs point to ND, so of course that'll mean SC comes out like sex on fire and just rolls us again...
 
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Play with high energy, high emotion and start fast. I'll vomit if we take a fall to the canvas within the first 2 minutes. You fkn hearing me Brian VanGorder?????? Wake up stache boy.
 

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My NDptsd is kicking in big time, they fire their coach, it's going to be freezing freakin cold (By So Cal standards), they already lost to twice and can't seem to stop the run...

all signs point to ND, so of course that'll mean SC comes out like sex on fire and just rolls us again...
Oh for sure. I'm having visions of "maybe they won't come out for the second half" a la 2012 Alabama.
 

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Can we defer for once if we win the toss? Pretty please? How many 3& outs to start a game does BK need to accept the fact we need to defer?
 

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Just on weather.com and it says Saturday in Notre dame, IN:

High 48
Low 33
Sunset 7:02

With sunset a half hour plus before kickoff, you know it will be in the thirties most of the game.

Great for us in theory. Got to smack them in the mouth early.
 

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Can we defer for once if we win the toss? Pretty please? How many 3& outs to start a game does BK need to accept the fact we need to defer?
You would think he'd take a note from his boy Bill Belichick. That dude is pretty good at coaching and has the best offense on the planet. If you defer and start the game with Tom Fawkin' Brady and Gronk on the sidelines, then "we want to set the tone on offense" is no good reason to receive.
 

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Setting the tone in the second half is more important than starting the game that way. If we were consistently smashing it on the first possession I would rep him for it, would love to see the stats on our first possession success rate though.
 
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BGI and ISD concur that this defense doesn't play with fire or attack the ball because they're so concerned with not screwing up the overly complicated defensive scheme.

They say the defensive players don't feel comfortable getting excited UNTIL there's a big play because they're so focused on the scheme, they can't seem to come out fired up and just hit.
 
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