'13 PA WR Will Fuller (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Luckylucci]

Yeah, I think his biggest problem with those types of passes isn't necessarily are his hands good enough or not. It's his decision making on do I use my hands or pin it to chest.

These pass locations can make it difficult on hand placement. One a high pass you know you are putting your thumbs and index fingers together.

on a low pass you know you are putting your pinkies together

The one right at your stomach/lower chest can put you in a bind and usually just goes to comfort level. Where Will might not have any comfort level with either so he just defaults to pinning it to his chest.

but any guy who can run as fast as he does then catch a ball like this:

doesn't have a "hands" problem. He has a problem upstairs of indecision and confidence. at least IMO.

Honestly, I don't really care what it is, it just needs to be fixed. For our his sake and ND's. WR coaches do not go up to their WR's and say "here is when you catch with your body and here is when you catch with your hands". Its an all or nothing proposition. He's too good of a WR talent, to drop easy first downs, especially if/when we start playing better defenses.

 

[NDdomer2]

Honestly, I don't really care what it is, it just needs to be fixed. For our his sake and ND's. WR coaches do not go up to their WR's and say "here is when you catch with your body and here is when you catch with your hands". Its an all or nothing proposition. He's too good of a WR talent, to drop easy first downs, especially if/when we start playing better defenses.

Yea I'm not sure anyone cares why, just were my thoughts after watch him last year +.

I think a wr coach would take the catch, period, over "how" during the game. Practice and offseason are for technique improvement, not Saturdays.

Will does possess the ability of gaining separation, which, I don't know if it matters what D we are playing.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yea I'm not sure anyone cares why, just were my thoughts after watch him last year +.

I think a wr coach would take the catch, period, over "how" during the game. Practice and offseason are for technique improvement, not Saturdays.

Will does possess the ability of gaining separation, which, I don't know if it matters what D we are playing.

But he's not catching everything, he's dropping easy first downs because of this. If he was catching everything then we wouldn't be having this conversation. You don't change players free throw shooting form if they make 90% of them. When they start missing is when you address it. The reality is, really high level WR's shouldn't have this many easy drops.

Its happened against really bad defenses so to some extent you're right it doesn't matter what the D is but when the margin for error gets smaller and smaller as you play better teams. It will most definitely matter. Now I'm not saying that it won't get better but I guarantee the coaches are not dismissing this.

 

[NDdomer2]

But he's not catching everything, he's dropping easy first downs because of this. If he was catching everything then we wouldn't be having this conversation. You don't change players free throw shooting form if they make 90% of them. When they start missing is when you address it. The reality is, really high level WR's shouldn't have this many easy drops.

Its happened against really bad defenses so to some extent you're right it doesn't matter what the D is but when the margin for error gets smaller and smaller as you play better teams. It will most definitely matter. Now I'm not saying that it won't get better but I guarantee the coaches are not dismissing this.

I don't wanna sound like I think nothing needs addressed, it does. But Saturday isn't the day u hammer down on it as a coach IMO. It's a practice thing.

Let's hope he continues to ball as the year goes on. Especially against the better Ds

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Simply put Will is great at tracking balls. But on routine passes he lets the ball get into his body instead of plucking the ball with his hands


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[yankeeND]

Simply put Will is great at tracking balls. But on routine passes he lets the ball get into his body instead of plucking the ball with his hands


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This! I was saying earlier that he reminds me of Devin Smith in that regard. I would like him to sure up in the short game like Lucci is referring. He is incredible already, but he still needs to hone his skills and become a complete WR.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Great exchange guys! I really learned something from all of your posts!

 

[KPENN]

Courtesy of MSPaint like a champion, also his new twitter header

 

[scUM Hater]

so he catches the ball with his body at times. so if he gets hurt, it wont be a loss. He is a great wide receiver. conversation over.

 

[Irish Insanity]

so he catches the ball with his body at times. so if he gets hurt, it wont be a loss. He is a great wide receiver. conversation over.

Man I hope you don't really believe that.

 

[Luckylucci]

I'm behind on DVR but that INT had to do with an under thrown ball but also if he tries to high point it versus let the ball get to his body, that probably doesn't happen. He is so damn dangerous and frustrating.

 

[NDdomer2]

I'm behind on DVR but that INT had to do with an under thrown ball but also if he tries to high point it versus let the ball get to his body, that probably doesn't happen. He is so damn dangerous and frustrating.

I immediately thought of our discussion.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame's Will Fuller is beyond fast, scouting Houston-Tulsa and Quiet Riot. Walkthrough: <a href="https://t.co/KfJ9R0Gyu5">https://t.co/KfJ9R0Gyu5</a> <a href="https://t.co/xGYQUxyXE9">pic.twitter.com/xGYQUxyXE9</a></p>— Brian Hamilton (@BrianHamiltonSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianHamiltonSI/status/649657087648243717">October 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Good read on some of the things that make Fuller excel.

 

[woolybug25]

The elite speed emerged in that first summer on campus. Fuller remembers not being able to jump out of bed, his legs feeling like they were filled with sand and soldered to his torso. The grueling lower-body workouts devised by Notre Dame strength and conditioning coach Paul Longo, however, apparently woke whatever pistons hadn’t been firing previously. Fuller was conscious that a regimented routine of training was helping, but he didn’t recognize that he had a new capacity to red-line it until receivers coach Mike Denbrock approached him during a practice early in preseason camp.

FIRE LONGO!!!

 

[Bogtrotter07]

FIRE LONGO!!!

Now make sure you link it, or cross post it in the Longo thread!

 

[IrishLion]

Fuller had been quoted saying the same thing in the Longo thread long ago...

The primary detractor brushed it off and continued the fight.

 

[koonja]

Longo makes one player fast and the rest of the team mud runners and all of a sudden he's Jesus. Fuller is just being humble.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Longo makes one player fast and the rest of the team mud runners and all of a sudden he's Jesus. Fuller is just being humble.

One player? Have you missed our RBs regularly out-running the opposition?

 

[koonja]

Touche, but back at you with the 'RBs'. CJ is running away from people, no one else is. Adams has just had a few times where the OL had massive holes. I don't think anyone's categorizing him as fast.

 

[gkIrish]

Longo makes one player fast and the rest of the team mud runners and all of a sudden he's Jesus. Fuller is just being humble.

You really need to stop digging a trench around your position on Longo. Everyone thinks you're wrong but you won't give in because now it's what you stand for on this site.

Imagine if someone did that for Brian Kelly....geez

 

[koonja]

You really need to stop digging a trench around your position on Longo. Everyone thinks you're wrong but you won't give in because now it's what you stand for on this site.

Imagine if someone did that for Brian Kelly....geez

I thought you were serious until that last sentence. Which I would have been disappointed in because I kmow you're smart enough to know I said "I don't think Longo sucks".

 

[jspags10pg]

This, lol. I don't think Longo sucks, I just don't think he's the father of speed. One case study (ok, two with CJ) doesn't prove team-speed one way or another.

And I didn't even go to what he did to Baratti's 4.4 LASER 40 he used to have...

Haha I like ya Koon, I really do...but you can't agree to not have the fight again and then continue the fight in the SAME post without sounding foolish.

Anyway, this Fuller guy is fast and damn good and I'm looking forward to him burning Clemson's DBs. I just hope Kizer can get the ball to him consistently.

 

[aubeirish]

I thought you were serious until that last sentence. Which I would have been disappointed in because I kmow you're smart enough to know I said "I don't think Longo sucks, anymore".

FiFY

I'm just putting a little fuel on the fire here.

 

[koonja]

Longo only sucks when I'm drunk.

 

[gkIrish]

Longo only sucks when I'm drunk.

What if I told you all our injuries are his fault. WOULD HE SUCK THEN???

 

[ACamp1900]

Longo only sucks when I'm drunk.

I thought you weren't married......

 

[Irish2155]

Man, I hopped on this thread hoping to see something worth reading.

Mods...feel free to remove this post with the others.

 

[Old Man Mike]

.... get used to the ruined threads.

 

[koonja]

.... get used to the ruined threads.

Reps.

 

[woolybug25]

Longo only sucks when I'm drunk.

Doesn't that mean you "accept" when you're drunk? lol