What is the "uniform surprise"?

[wizards8507]

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No premier (twill) jersey this year? The screen printing looks cheap.

 

[greyhammer90]

It's not the uniform that's the problem. The uniform is a symptom.

Out of curiosity what are the other symptoms of the problem? Turf? Night games? Hippity hop music being played through the record player?

 

[GoIrish41]

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UnderArmor is just stupid expensive. A freakin hoodie for $100? smh

 

[Huntr]

It's not the uniform that's the problem. The uniform is a symptom.

No, its really not.

There is no CFB program that clings to its traditions and history more tightly than ND. Those will always be important to the program and the university.

No other CFB program combines a storied history with high-level, competitive play while providing a world-class education to its athletes moreso than ND.

There is no better major college program to represent an ideal CFB player than ND. That isn't changing. That will never change.

 

[connor_in]

UnderArmor is just stupid expensive. A freakin hoodie for $100? smh

This has been my issue since UA took over. It's not like Adidas was cheap, but they weren't as high as UA.

 

[wizards8507]

I know Wolly's a banker and I'm not sure what you do at the Mothership Wiz but I've worked on brand development my entire professional career. ND Football is a brand, the helmet is an impressionable component of that brand. What ND is doing is essential in promoting their brand and keeping market share as measured by college football standards. ND football is the most iconic brand in college football but Phil Knight changed the rules and ND now must play by those rules.

I agree with the beginning of your statement. The problem is that the brand we're promoting isn't our own. We're Pepsi releasing a red can with white script. We're Wendy's changing our sign to a golden "W."

Out of curiosity what are the other symptoms of the problem? Turf? Night games? Hippity hop music being played through the record player?

The first one and the last one, yes. No italics. Also Crossroads, the jumbotron, $40 t-shirts, Brian Kelly, Everett Golson, DaVaris Daniels, Greg Bryant.

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[greyhammer90]

I agree with the beginning of your statement. The problem is that the brand we're promoting isn't our own. We're Pepsi releasing a red can with white script. We're Wendy's changing our sign to a golden "W."

The first one and the last one, yes. No italics. Also Crossroads, the jumbotron, $40 t-shirts, Brian Kelly, Everett Golson, DaVaris Daniels, Greg Bryant.

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Brian Kelly is the symptom of a problem?
A stadium expansion that also allows the stadium to be used in an academic manner is the symptom of a problem?
Athletes being held up to the traditional standards of ND student athletes is the symptom of a problem?

You do understand that it's not the 50's right? You also understand that just because ND does something that isn't your favorite flavor doesn't mean there's a "problem", right?

 

[zelezo vlk]

interesting that ND is selling #9 jerseys. Lots of schools limiting their options to #1 #15 and maybe one other legacy number like Auburn with #34 for Bo

It's because of Jaylon's popularity. ND has been selling #5 for a couple years. I haven't checked the availability right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if they replaced all the #5 jerseys with #9

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[irishff1014]

I actually like them. I would have like to see a few different thing with them but overall not bad at all.

 

[NCND]

https://vimeo.com/136219136

 

[#1rish]

Yeah, looks like it wasn't the uniform that the players were hyped about but Josh Anderson getting a scholly.

 

[IrishLax]

Last year's were a home run, second only to probably the ASU whites. I bought a stitched jersey of last year's when I was up for a game, and it's freaking fantastic.

The problem with this year's is the shade of green. which comes off as Oregon-y. If you go with the forest green that we wore against USC with Quinn but the same model I bet it would've looked A+. I'd love for someone here who is photoshop capable to mock up it up with that color.

I still give this uniform a B+. And I think it fits going to Fenway.

 

[Blaise]

Yeah, looks like it wasn't the uniform that the players were hyped about but Josh Anderson getting a scholly.

I'm always glad to see walk-on's get scholarships... Love the way the team reacted and way better than if that was just their reaction for their jersey...

 

[Irishcop]

Yeah, looks like it wasn't the uniform that the players were hyped about but Josh Anderson getting a scholly.

I just watched that. Congratulations to Josh. Very nice moment for him.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I agree with the beginning of your statement. The problem is that the brand we're promoting isn't our own. We're Pepsi releasing a red can with white script. We're Wendy's changing our sign to a golden "W."

The first one and the last one, yes. No italics. Also Crossroads, the jumbotron, $40 t-shirts, Brian Kelly, Everett Golson, DaVaris Daniels, Greg Bryant.

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Yes Kelly is ruining Notre Dame. It wasn't Weis or Willingham or Davie or incompetent ADs prior to Swarbrick or the people who want you to sit down during games. No, it's Kelly and rap music and turf that have ruined ND.

Wiz, I know you take positions and then grind them mercilessly but this seems below you. What is ND supposed to be in your mind? I'd like you to spell out exactly what ND is and what you think it should be. Then tell us how these things change that and make it into something it's not.

That might make this correspondence a little easier.

 

[wizards8507]

Yes Kelly is ruining Notre Dame. It wasn't Weis or Willingham or Davie or incompetent ADs prior to Swarbrick or the people who want you to sit down during games. No, it's Kelly and rap music and turf that have ruined ND.

Aye, there's the rub. "Notre Dame" is not a football team to me. I'll also point out that I do not believe that Notre Dame has been "ruined," simply that it's moving in a direction that I'd rather it not.

Wiz, I know you take positions and then grind them mercilessly but this seems below you. What is ND supposed to be in your mind? I'd like you to spell out exactly what ND is and what you think it should be. Then tell us how these things change that and make it into something it's not.

That might make this correspondence a little easier.

Matthew 5:14

 

[BobbyMac]

Let me ask the disgruntled fans... who manages their brand better than the Irish?

 

[Rack Em]

Let me ask the disgruntled fans... who manages their brand better than the Irish?

St. Mary's

 

[wizards8507]

Let me ask the disgruntled fans... who manages their brand better than the Irish?

Off the top of my head, Oregon. Alabama. The SEC as a conference. Ohio State. USC. Texas.

ETA: And I wouldn't say I'm disgruntled. I'm generally quite... gruntled. But this is a uniform thread so bitch about the uniforms I shall.

 

[wizards8507]

St. Mary's

Undefeated since 1844.

 

[BobbyMac]

Off the top of my head, Oregon. Alabama. The SEC as a conference. Ohio State. USC. Texas.

ETA: And I wouldn't say I'm disgruntled. I'm generally quite... gruntled. But this is a uniform thread so bitch about the uniforms I shall.

So Phil Knight has built Oregon's brand by changing uniforms 11-14 times a year but ND is ruining it's by doing it once? That is what I read, correct?

 

[Irish#1]

Haha you guys are terrible. How do you not like these? At least ND does things like this. The players are ecstatic about it and that is all that matters.

I love them!

Get with the times, you old men.

I'd like them to do black jerseys with gold numbers and green outlining next year.

Get with the times you young punks. Being an old man doesn't mean you're not with the times. See my comment above.

 

[wizards8507]

So Phil Knight has built Oregon's brand by changing uniforms 11-14 times a year but ND is ruining it's by doing it once? That is what I read, correct?

Because the uniform-changing gimmick is PART of Oregon's brand. I don't have a problem with it per se, I have a problem with us doing it, because it's not who we are. It's not our history or culture. Some teams (Alabama, Notre Dame, Penn State and the like) should never have mirror chrome logos on their helmets.

It's like... the Patriots can throw the football on the two yard line because their offense is built on Brady and Gronk. That's who they are. The Seahawks would be better served running the ball in that situation, or else shit like this happens.

Shamrock Series uniforms are the Malcolm Butler interception of collegiate apparel. ;-)

 

[arahop]

I agree with the beginning of your statement. The problem is that the brand we're promoting isn't our own. We're Pepsi releasing a red can with white script. We're Wendy's changing our sign to a golden "W."

The first one and the last one, yes. No italics. Also Crossroads, the jumbotron, $40 t-shirts, Brian Kelly, Everett Golson, DaVaris Daniels, Greg Bryant.

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Take that shit to NDnation. Your pov will be well received there.

 

[NCND]

I agree that ND should not be doing this but I think it looks awesome. Just get rid of the goofy gold cleats please.

 

[Irish#1]

As long as the players love them...that's all I really care about.


That said...if they could ditch the mustard yellow pants for the gold ones from back in the 90s I would be so happy.

Bite your tongue. Those are a throwback to the Ara days.

 

[wizards8507]

Take that shit to NDnation. Your pov will be well received there.

There it is. "We disagree so you should get the hell out of here." Classic.

 

[ACamp1900]

Bite your tongue. Those are a throwback to the Ara days.

You're right of course, but I always associated them with Devine more for some reason... prob because I have more game films from Devine than Ara.

 

[BobbyMac]

Because the uniform-changing gimmick is PART of Oregon's brand. I don't have a problem with it per se, I have a problem with us doing it, because it's not who we are. It's not our history or culture. Some teams (Alabama, Notre Dame, Penn State and the like) should never have mirror chrome logos on their helmets.

It's like... the Patriots can throw the football on the two yard line because their offense is built on Brady and Gronk. The Seahawks would be better served running the ball in that situation, or else shit like this happens.

Shamrock Series uniforms are the Malcolm Butler interception of collegiate apparel. ;-)

Sorry, but it IS who ND is, has been for decades. The history of the green alternate uni is as much of ND's History as Rockne. ND doing a yearly alt jersey is much less trendy than the other teams. They invented it. Phil Knight just took it to the extreme and sold it to the vast majority of his schools.

 

[pumpdog20]

I like the idea of changing the uniforms once each year, I just don't like these uniforms.