Silly Season 2014/2015 (Coaching Changes)

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I think he was involved in Wimbush's recruitment. Although I do believe anything involving the QBs is Kelly's show.
 

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Ignoring the recruiting, here's how the coaches we lost did this past year:

-DBs weren't that great, and we have 5 star safety that Cooks couldn't seem to teach how to play the position right.

-RBs were OK, but we have a 5 star running back that Alford couldn't seem to teach how to pass block.

-Our QB was good, but Lefluer couldn't seem to teach him how to run with the football, or not throw interceptions every game (starting with syracuse).

So sure, we lost some good recruiters, but maybe we didn't lose that great of coaches.
 

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I really hope Denson is the guy that replaces Alford. I think he just came up with a great recruiting pitch for ND in this video lol.

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Ignoring the recruiting, here's how the coaches we lost did this past year:

-DBs weren't that great, and we have 5 star safety that Cooks couldn't seem to teach how to play the position right.

-RBs were OK, but we have a 5 star running back that Alford couldn't seem to teach how to pass block.

-Our QB was good, but Lefluer couldn't seem to teach him how to run with the football, or not throw interceptions every game (starting with syracuse).

So sure, we lost some good recruiters, but maybe we didn't lose that great of coaches.

Agree. It's a loss for sure but these guys can be replaced.
 

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Autry Denson is a strong candidate to replace Alford per II

This is what Alford had to say about Denson in an interview from this afternoon

Just my opinion but I think the more players they add from the late 80's-90's era to the coaching staff the better.
 

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Just my opinion but I think the more players they add from the late 80's-90's era to the coaching staff the better.


Who else from that era is involved in coaching?

I like the replacements. I think Lyght and Denson could be sneaky good additions.
 
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Who else from that era is involved in coaching?

I like the replacements. I think Lyght and Denson could be sneaky good additions.

Jeff Burris is assistant DB coach for the Dolphins. Coached HS in Indiana and at UMass with Molinar.
 

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Omg Burris and Denson on the staff would make me so happy. Two of my favorite players growing up.


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Omg Burris and Denson on the staff would make me so happy. Two of my favorite players growing up.


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Another of my all-time favorites! Would love to have him on the coaching staff someday as well!

Agreed but I doubt both Lyght and Burris could both be on the staff together. Burris is definitely someone to keep an eye on in the future.
 

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Agreed but I doubt both Lyght and Burris could both be on the staff together. Burris is definitely someone to keep an eye on in the future.

Ha, you can tell when we started following the Irish. Miss the glory days.
 

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I really hope adding those players from the past add perspective to the current players of what ND football really is. Toughness, tradition and passion. This will be great additions in my opinion.
 

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I really don't care who replaces whom or what background they have, other than if they can recruit such that the drop off from Cooks/Alford doesn't hurt ND too much. It will, of course, but I hope they can minimize the damage.

That is, I don't think hiring an alum is necessarily the best option. It may be, but being an alum shouldn't be the biggest influence in hiring. This isn't fichigan.
 

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"If anybody asks my opinion, I would one-hundred-thousand percent endorse Autry," Alford. "Selfishly as somebody who wants somebody to look after his guys, and I shouldn't say 'my guys' anymore, but as somebody who could look after them and coach them, I think he would look after them in that way. He'd be in a position to mentor them. That's the guy. He's the guy. I really think Autry is a special guy. (Heck), I think he's a better recruiter than me. I'd be looking up to him. He's special."


This quote is not from Alford. It's from Chuck Martin who had Denson on staff last season.
 

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I like the hire of Lyght, and based on what we know right now, would be excited about Denson.

The success BK has had in his coaching career is undisputed. A skepticism I had of him when he was hired (and unfortunately, still have of him today) is how much he "gets" Notre Dame. Part of me thinks Kelly would be just as happy coaching at osu, Oklahoma, Florida, or any other big-name school in college football. And as the coaching profession goes, there's nothing wrong with that.

But ND is different. Davie and Willingham didn't "get" it. Weis, Holtz, and Faust did "get" it. I think to be successful at ND, a coach needs to be proficient in X's and O's...and what ND is about. I think bringing in a former player like Lyght from the last golden era at ND is huge (not to mention, being a Top-5 NFL draft pick, a pro's pro, and Super Bowl champion). While different, I think bringing in Denson could be equally huge. He played at ND during some lean years, but he was a consummate college and team player who understands the value of attending and playing at ND, even if a title and the forefront of college football are never seen.

TL;DR-- I think Kelly needs more guys that "get" ND and Lyght and Denson both definitely "get" ND. Combining Kelly's coaching prowess with the ability to "get" ND could very well lead ND to places she hasn't been in almost 30 years.
 

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SIAP, but John Bonamego, former special teams coordinator for the Lions, was named CMU head coach yesterday. That ends that line of speculation for Elston... unless he joins their staff as defensive coordinator! (I just started that rumor, let's see if it makes CoachingSearch.com.)

CMUCHIPPEWAS.COM John Bonamego Named Head Football Coach - Official Athletic Site Official Athletic Site - Football

He was at the coaching clinic last year. Most in depth special teams presentation I've ever seen.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>OL coach under Charlie Weis in 2009. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ThayerEvansSI">@ThayerEvansSI</a>: UCONN has hired Frank Verducci as OC per source.</p>— Andrew Owens (@BGI_AndrewOwens) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_AndrewOwens/status/564812796714819586">February 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I like the hire of Lyght, and based on what we know right now, would be excited about Denson.

The success BK has had in his coaching career is undisputed. A skepticism I had of him when he was hired (and unfortunately, still have of him today) is how much he "gets" Notre Dame. Part of me thinks Kelly would be just as happy coaching at osu, Oklahoma, Florida, or any other big-name school in college football. And as the coaching profession goes, there's nothing wrong with that.

But ND is different. Davie and Willingham didn't "get" it. Weis, Holtz, and Faust did "get" it. I think to be successful at ND, a coach needs to be proficient in X's and O's...and what ND is about. I think bringing in a former player like Lyght from the last golden era at ND is huge (not to mention, being a Top-5 NFL draft pick, a pro's pro, and Super Bowl champion). While different, I think bringing in Denson could be equally huge. He played at ND during some lean years, but he was a consummate college and team player who understands the value of attending and playing at ND, even if a title and the forefront of college football are never seen.

TL;DR-- I think Kelly needs more guys that "get" ND and Lyght and Denson both definitely "get" ND. Combining Kelly's coaching prowess with the ability to "get" ND could very well lead ND to places she hasn't been in almost 30 years.

Not trying to argue, this is an honest question... by what mechanism do you think adding guys who "get" ND will improve the football program? Recruiting? Development? Retention of talent? Internal improvements in processes?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I'm told that Notre Dame offensive coordinator Mike Denbrock turned down the Central Michigan head coaching job to stay with Brian Kelly.</p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/564823033471184896">February 9, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Not trying to argue, this is an honest question... by what mechanism do you think adding guys who "get" ND will improve the football program? Recruiting? Development? Retention of talent? Internal improvements in processes?

Any and all of those could improve by hiring ND guys.

In some ways I look at it as an organization hiring a development director. Say the organization is a Catholic high school. Candidate A has extensive knowledge and 20 years experience in the development field and has had success building relationships and raising money. And then there is Candidate B. He too has the same experience and knowledge as A. But Candidate A was a product of public schools and is agnostic. Candidate B is a product of Catholic schools, is a practicing Catholic, and an alumnus of the high school. While Candidate A could be a great choice, Candidate B would presumably be the no-brainer hire. He'd bring an enthusiasm Candidate A probably couldn't provide and a genuine message Candidate A couldn't provide. So you have a guy out there selling the school who truly buys into the school. That veracity and enthusiasm has a way of seeping out to other departments, to faculty, and to students. The pride and mission factor of "our school" raises even more.

Does it work out 100% of the time? No. But there's a reason Bear Bryant left for Alabama, Jim Harbaugh left for Michigan, Urban Meyer went back to his home state, and people everyday, in all walks of life, go back "home."

I think Brian Kelly has the "coaching" part down, I think he needs more of the "ND" though.
 

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Any and all of those could improve by hiring ND guys.

In some ways I look at it as an organization hiring a development director. Say the organization is a Catholic high school. Candidate A has extensive knowledge and 20 years experience in the development field and has had success building relationships and raising money. And then there is Candidate B. He too has the same experience and knowledge as A. But Candidate A was a product of public schools and is agnostic. Candidate B is a product of Catholic schools, is a practicing Catholic, and an alumnus of the high school. While Candidate A could be a great choice, Candidate B would presumably be the no-brainer hire. He'd bring an enthusiasm Candidate A probably couldn't provide and a genuine message Candidate A couldn't provide. So you have a guy out there selling the school who truly buys into the school. That veracity and enthusiasm has a way of seeping out to other departments, to faculty, and to students. The pride and mission factor of "our school" raises even more.

Does it work out 100% of the time? No. But there's a reason Bear Bryant left for Alabama, Jim Harbaugh left for Michigan, Urban Meyer went back to his home state, and people everyday, in all walks of life, go back "home."

I think Brian Kelly has the "coaching" part down, I think he needs more of the "ND" though.

You couldn't be more right here. ND can only be successful if it has the right mix of coaches and personnel. Those people have to understand what makes ND unique - no better way than to have lived it.

Kelly will never be able to say that, and I don't think he really wants to be anything other than a CEO.
 

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Under Latina and Verducci our run blocking wasn't anything to write home about, but the pass blocking was decent at times...maybe not in '07 under Latina, but we also had a mess at QB.

Based on the comments from OFD and Kelly promising Wimbush's mother that he'll hire an experienced QB coach, I first imagined Ron Powlus would be a good choice, but upon further thought he wouldn't really fit from a Spread QB perspective. I remember that Powlus wasn't exactly the most mobile QB we ever had, but I thought I remembered him running a little Option for Holtz and Boob back in the day...his stats suggest otherwise.
 
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It'd be interesting to see the data behind recruiting success when the HC (or even coordinators) are alumnis. I'm sure it makes a difference. You always give it your all when doing something you genuinely have love.for.

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