UB has fired Jeff Quinn

[Irish8248]

Didn't Quinn coach with Kelly as OC going all the way back to Grand Valley State?

yep

 

[Buster Bluth]

Didn't Quinn coach with Kelly as OC going all the way back to Grand Valley State?

He was a Kelly assistant from 1989-2009. For 21 seasons.

That's...a long time. Maybe they should find room for him haha

 

[GBdomer]

Looks like our new QB coach

 

[ThePiombino]

Looks like our new QB coach

Little surprised he was willing to come in as anything less than OC or AHC.

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

Little surprised he was willing to come in as anything less than OC or AHC.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is eventually named the AHC though.

 

[GBdomer]

Little surprised he was willing to come in as anything less than OC or AHC.

He's Kelly's right hand man he probably would have crawled to ND. But I wonder if this pushes out Denbrock? I doubt it

 

[BGIF]

So we need in effect 3 OC's? Kelly is pretty much the OC and Denbrock is more like asst. OC like Quinn had been to Kelly previously.

Make Quinn OC Emeritus. Everybody gets a title.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Whatever helps us WIN.

 

[OCIrish]

Looks like our new QB coach

yaaaayyyyy

 

[dshans]

Make Quinn OC Emeritus. Everybody gets a title.

Hmmmm ...

"Emeritus" is "retired," is it not?

Are you advocating for a blue haired pensioner to be paid to haunt the sideline?

 

[Irish YJ]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page

Reports: Tony Alford leaving Notre Dame, Jeff Quinn joining staff - Chicago Tribune

 

[BoredIrish]

I don't understand why people think this is such a great move.

Quinn is a 20 year O line coach... but we have one of those already.
Quinn used to be BK's OC for a system that hasnt worked here in 5 years... well, we have an OC and hopefully BK has learned what is needed to win at ND.
Quinn isnt a great recruiter... we just lost our two best recruiters.

I understand he is BK's friend and all... but I just dont get it. BK is the Qb coach... why not hire a hotshot young recruiter at the position instead considering the new QB coach will basically be a glorified GA. Or better yet, hire a special teams coach and try to fix a hole that has been pending for 5 years.

I understand that Quinn was with BK when his offense was last seen clicking... but that is why we hired BK... isnt it? BK doesnt recruit much... so if he cant build an offense without Quinn, then why did ND hire BK?

 

[kmoose]

I don't understand why people think this is such a great move.

Quinn is a 20 year O line coach... but we have one of those already.
Quinn used to be BK's OC for a system that hasnt worked here in 5 years... well, we have an OC and hopefully BK has learned what is needed to win at ND.
Quinn isnt a great recruiter... we just lost our two best recruiters.

I understand he is BK's friend and all... but I just dont get it. BK is the Qb coach... why not hire a hotshot young recruiter at the position instead considering the new QB coach will basically be a glorified GA. Or better yet, hire a special teams coach and try to fix a hole that has been pending for 5 years.

I understand that Quinn was with BK when his offense was last seen clicking... but that is why we hired BK... isnt it? BK doesnt recruit much... so if he cant build an offense without Quinn, then why did ND hire BK?

Because Quinn didn't replace the Recruiting Coordinator, or the second best recruiter on the team. He replaced the QB coach, who I don't think was even involved in recruiting. How about we let BK replace Alford, before we whine about it?

 

[Buster Bluth]

I don't understand why people think this is such a great move.

Quinn is a 20 year O line coach... but we have one of those already.
Quinn used to be BK's OC for a system that hasnt worked here in 5 years... well, we have an OC and hopefully BK has learned what is needed to win at ND.
Quinn isnt a great recruiter... we just lost our two best recruiters.

I understand he is BK's friend and all... but I just dont get it. BK is the Qb coach... why not hire a hotshot young recruiter at the position instead considering the new QB coach will basically be a glorified GA. Or better yet, hire a special teams coach and try to fix a hole that has been pending for 5 years.

I understand that Quinn was with BK when his offense was last seen clicking... but that is why we hired BK... isnt it? BK doesnt recruit much... so if he cant build an offense without Quinn, then why did ND hire BK?

 

[Crazy Balki]

I don't understand why people think this is such a great move.

Quinn is a 20 year O line coach... but we have one of those already.
Quinn used to be BK's OC for a system that hasnt worked here in 5 years... well, we have an OC and hopefully BK has learned what is needed to win at ND.
Quinn isnt a great recruiter... we just lost our two best recruiters.

I understand he is BK's friend and all... but I just dont get it. BK is the Qb coach... why not hire a hotshot young recruiter at the position instead considering the new QB coach will basically be a glorified GA. Or better yet, hire a special teams coach and try to fix a hole that has been pending for 5 years.

I understand that Quinn was with BK when his offense was last seen clicking... but that is why we hired BK... isnt it? BK doesnt recruit much... so if he cant build an offense without Quinn, then why did ND hire BK?

Like Todd Lyght and more than likely Autry Denson? Yeah, I'd say those are young hot-shot recruiting-type with ND ties. More than likely Quinn will be co-OC with Denbrock. You really underestimate the impact of this move. It's pretty significant. I'd take Quinn, Denson and Lyght over Alford, LaFleur and Cooks in a second.

 

[Bluto]

I don't understand why people think this is such a great move.

Quinn is a 20 year O line coach... but we have one of those already.
Quinn used to be BK's OC for a system that hasnt worked here in 5 years... well, we have an OC and hopefully BK has learned what is needed to win at ND.
Quinn isnt a great recruiter... we just lost our two best recruiters.

I understand he is BK's friend and all... but I just dont get it. BK is the Qb coach... why not hire a hotshot young recruiter at the position instead considering the new QB coach will basically be a glorified GA. Or better yet, hire a special teams coach and try to fix a hole that has been pending for 5 years.

I understand that Quinn was with BK when his offense was last seen clicking... but that is why we hired BK... isnt it? BK doesnt recruit much... so if he cant build an offense without Quinn, then why did ND hire BK?

Actually, the offense the last couple years has been pretty good all things considered. How good is Ohio State with Reese at QB or with a billion turnovers? In spite of those limitations ND was a play or two away from 10 plus win seasons the last two years.

 

[greyhammer90]

Seriously. We just replaced Lafleur with Quinn. That's a win.

 

[irishff1014]

Like Todd Lyght and more than likely Autry Denson? Yeah, I'd say those are young hot-shot recruiting-type with ND ties. More than likely Quinn will be co-OC with Denbrock. You really underestimate the impact of this move. It's pretty significant. I'd take Quinn, Denson and Lyght over Alford, LaFleur and Cooks in a second.

You are assuming they will be good recruiters you don't know they will. I hope they will but just because they are ND grads and NFL players doesn't mean anything.

 

[irishandy]

Lafleur was a joke here and I am glad he moved on.

Lafleur was RG III's QB coach look how he turned out and he was EG's QB coach; look how that turned out.

I would've been happy to say to Lafleur there is your exit pass and don't let it hit you on the ass! He sucked!

 

[IRISHDODGER]

You are assuming they will be good recruiters you don't know they will. I hope they will but just because they are ND grads and NFL players doesn't mean anything.

Denson is a Florida native. More importantly, he's a young, successful African-American coach who was a record breaking RB at ND & played in the NFL. He would kill it on the recruiting trail IMO.

 

[ThePiombino]

Denson is a Florida native. More importantly, he's a young, successful African-American coach who was a record breaking RB at ND & played in the NFL. He would kill it on the recruiting trail IMO.

Yeah, I'm loving this more and more as time goes on. I think I'm actually going to be very sad if we hire anyone else at this point to replace Alford. I hope he doesn't have any weird clauses in his USF contract that would block such a deal.

 

[MNIrishman]

Sooooo next year's OC?

Prophesy...

 

[stlnd01]

It's really hard to know how well someone will recruit players to Notre Dame until you've watched them for a couple of cycles recruiting players to Notre Dame.
That's why losing Alford stings. He was good at selling what Notre Dame's selling. Cooks, too, to a lesser extent.
But if we're going to replace them with guys who know Notre Dame and get the place, and who are also good coaches with ties to regions that are important to our recruiting like Florida and Southern California, that doesn't seem like a bad approach.

Will agree with those who aren't sure what exactly Quinn brings to the table though, aside from being an FOB.

 

[ThePiombino]

It's really hard to know how well someone will recruit players to Notre Dame until you've watched them for a couple of cycles recruiting players to Notre Dame.
That's why losing Alford stings. He was good at selling what Notre Dame's selling. Cooks, too, to a lesser extent.
But if we're going to replace them with guys who know Notre Dame and get the place, and who are also good coaches with ties to regions that are important to our recruiting like Florida and Southern California, that doesn't seem like a bad approach.

Will agree with those who aren't sure what exactly Quinn brings to the table though, aside from being an FOB.

This is key. It's likely that their ultimate impact won't be felt year one. It takes time to build relationships, obviously. What sucks is that OSU now reaps the benefits of all the relationships Alford cultivated in FL over the past 2-3 years on the '16 and likely '17 kids. As if having Meyer wasn't enough of an advantage for OSU in the state of Florida. Anyway, point being that there is no way any reasonable fan should expect whoever takes over to be able to pick up where the previous coach left off. It's just not reasonable.

 

[Crazy Balki]

This is key. It's likely that their ultimate impact won't be felt year one. It takes time to build relationships, obviously. What sucks is that OSU now reaps the benefits of all the relationships Alford cultivated in FL over the past 2-3 years on the '16 and likely '17 kids. As if having Meyer wasn't enough of an advantage for OSU in the state of Florida. Anyway, point being that there is no way any reasonable fan should expect whoever takes over to be able to pick up where the previous coach left off. It's just not reasonable.

Honestly, I see Alford's relationships benefiting ND moreso than O$U. Alford wasn't selling just himself to these kids, but the University of Notre Dame. Now he has to sell an entirely different product. Regardless, he's gonna get guys b/c the product he's selling is a defending national champion. Let's just say, hypothetically, Denson gets hired. He has all those open doors thanks to Alford, and those kids know the product ND is selling. Now this depends on whoever is hired to recruit that region (presumably Denson if hired), but the opportunities have been planted for ND thanks to Alford.

 

[kmoose]

Denson is a Florida native. More importantly, he's a young, successful African-American coach who was a record breaking RB at ND & played in the NFL. He would kill it on the recruiting trail IMO.

MOST importantly, though......

He is an employee of the University of South Florida. And he was just hired in January. So it's a long shot that we would be able to hire him away from there.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

MOST importantly, though......

He is an employee of the University of South Florida. And he was just hired in January. So it's a long shot that we would be able to hire him away from there.

We did the exact same thing to Lyght and Vandy. I think it's sort of crappy, actually. But I'm guessing that it wouldn't be a stumbling block.

 

[Grahambo]

We did the exact same thing to Lyght and Vandy. I think it's sort of crappy, actually. But I'm guessing that it wouldn't be a stumbling block.

It's done by all the university's. And frankly, you have to do it or else you're stuck with only the fired. I have no problem with ND doing it nor with other teams doing it to ND.

 

[Crazy Balki]

MOST importantly, though......

He is an employee of the University of South Florida. And he was just hired in January. So it's a long shot that we would be able to hire him away from there.

And why is that? I'm pretty sure we just did the same exact thing with Lyght from Vandy. If ND wants Denson, they'll get him.

 

[Crazy Balki]

It's done by all the university's. And frankly, you have to do it or else you're stuck with only the fired. I have no problem with ND doing it nor with other teams doing it to ND.

It sucks, but this 100%. I hate when it happens to ND, but nothing shady about it. ND has had it happen to them, so it's only fair they do the same to fill the void. That's the benefit of being a premier college program.