Video of the Pass Interference

[Cackalacky]

Yeah it's gone back and forth like 12 times.

So its irrelevant then.

 

[Domina Nostra]

IMO, what happened was really simple. They originally had man-to-man assignments. Then ND shifted and #26 tries to communicate to them that they are going to "zone it up" (i.e. pass off receivers).

Darby doesn't get that call and instead simply jumps Fuller to the inside and jams him... when he should've passed him off and worked to the outside on Robinson. The play was over the minute Darby jumped up and to the inside on Fuller.

Absolutely. How can you pick a guy that is covering YOU!!! This is why the play looks so much worse in slow motion when you are looking for something to call.

My official position: Bad call--probably wrong--but not conspiratorially egregious EXCEPT in the fact that you shouldn't decide a huge game on a close call. On the "we were robbed meter." 8 out of 10, same as Bush Push.

 

[Emcee77]

I don't understand why there is any doubt about who the penalty was called on. The referee clearly announced that it was on #7. I mean I could hear it clear as day, although Herbstreit apparently could not. Are people saying that the ref was just mistaken about the number? Or have they missed that, like Herbstreit did?

 

[wizards8507]

I don't understand why there is any doubt about who the penalty was called on. The referee clearly announced that it was on #7. I mean I could hear it clear as day, although Herbstreit apparently could not. Are people saying that the ref was just mistaken about the number? Or have they missed that, like Herbstreit did?

Right.

The official play-by-play of the game states that Prosise was called for an offensive pass interference penalty on a 2-yard touchdown pass from Everett Golson to Corey Robinson on fourth-and-goal with 13 seconds left, which would have put the Irish ahead 33-31, with an extra point pending.

 

[Emcee77]

Right.

What is the "official play-by-play of the game"? I have never heard that term.

 

[kmoose]

Wrong. This has since been clarified. The ACC confirmed it was on CJ.

When/where did you see this?

 

[Jerry]

Rhoads, who was at the game, said that if the ball is touched before the receiver reaches the line of scrimmage, there is no pass interference. If, however, the ball is caught beyond the line of scrimmage, the contact is pass interference. Replays indicated that Robinson caught the ball beyond the line of scrimmage.

"Offensive players on pass plays are restricted from going downfield and blocking any time from the snap," Rhoads explained. "If the ball is first touched behind the line of scrimmage, that would be legal and it's OK. But if the ball is touched beyond the line, then it's pass interference."

The call was originally believed to be against C.J. Prosise, but officially it was made against Will Fuller.

What annoys me the most is that not one "expert" has addressed the fact that Darby takes 2 steps inside and engages Fuller. Because if they did address that then the whole point of the WR blocking becomes less valid and more of a judgement call.

 

[kmoose]

What annoys me the most is that not one "expert" has addressed the fact that Darby takes 2 steps inside and engages Fuller. Because if they did address that then the whole point of the WR blocking becomes less valid and more of a judgement call.

They haven't addressed it because it is immaterial, by rule. By rule, the offensive player is responsible to avoid contact. It's my personal opinion that, if Fuller bounces off of Darby and runs around him, then there is no call. But, because he tried to go through Darby, there is prolonged contact, which then is flagged.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Sh!tty call no matter who it was on. In goaline yardage most of the time the WR's are jammed at the line. I haven't watched what Fuller did on the play. But it was #8 from FSU complaining to the refs like he got blocked when he obviously jammed Procise at the line. Is it fair to assume the same happened to Fuller? Call a pushoff but not a basketball screen!

 

[Luckylucci]

Sh!tty call no matter who it was on. In goaline yardage most of the time the WR's are jammed at the line. I haven't watched what Fuller did on the play. But it was #8 from FSU complaining to the refs like he got blocked when he obviously jammed Procise at the line. Is it fair to assume the same happened to Fuller? Call a pushoff but not a basketball screen!

They weren't complaining to the officials they were arguing with each other about the blown coverage. That is 1 part of this that is obvious, it shouldn't have been called. Ramsey turns around to yell at teammates for the way they played their coverage, not looking for a flag.

 

[Cackalacky]

When/where did you see this?

ITS BEEN CLARIFIED THAT IT HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH LIKE 12 TIMES...
#HotTakesSureToBeWrong

 

[RDU Irish]

They aren't going to admit they screwed the pooch. I'm not sure what people are looking for in these "clarifications" but a hat in hand apology ain't gonna happen.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

One thing is for sure, we're all going to get an ulcer debating this blown call.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

 

[Luckylucci]

They haven't addressed it because it is immaterial, by rule. By rule, the offensive player is responsible to avoid contact. It's my personal opinion that, if Fuller bounces off of Darby and runs around him, then there is no call. But, because he tried to go through Darby, there is prolonged contact, which then is flagged.

So, on slant routes which are timing routes why doesn't every DB in CFB just jump every slant route and when there is contact its OPI? It would be so easy to throw off timing routes if you could just jump routes like Darby did to Fuller with the risk being on the offensive player. What if the ball was thrown to Fuller, would that still be OPI? I highly doubt it would've been. Definitely would've been a no call. So the determination that the referee made was that somehow Fuller impeded Darby's progress to the WR in question Crob. By clearly watching the play its very very evident that this didn't happen. Darby never tried to get around Fuller.

 

[phork]

Wrong. This has since been clarified. The ACC confirmed it was on CJ.

Kelly says otherwise.

First-and-10

1. Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly remained angry on Sunday about the offensive pass interference call that wiped off the Corey Robinson touchdown that would have lifted the Fighting Irish to a win at Florida State. The day after the game, Kelly was more confused. “Actually, I have less clarity,” he said on a teleconference. “I guess it was actually called on Will Fuller, not C.J [Prosise]. Just adds more uncertainty as to the final play.”

 

[GoIrish41]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

Maybe he didn't have a good look at it.

 

[Luckylucci]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

Unreal, so much wrong with the way they called those last 2 possessions. The INT has no bearing on the game but seriously that wasn't even close and he's standing right there.

 

[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

"Back and to the left... Back and to the left"

Either this guy is inept or I might just have to accept a conspiracy....

 

[Jerry]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

I was shocked when I saw 2 INT's in the box score. It's funny because I was thinking maybe the refs didn't have a good look at it and didn't really care. Well one of those things isn't true.

 

[yankeeND]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

Investigation! Get the Tallahassee PD on this stat!

Man, I have to say, two days later it stings a little more now that I let it marinate. Just F them ya know? Everybody that is saying that it was the right call is trying way too hard. We got jobbed, but can't change it. Time to move forward and kick some ass in the process! I also think that this can be the great motivator that springboards this team to elite status. Beating Stanford and Oklahoma in 12' and MSU in 13' proved a lot to me, but after Saturday I have no doubt we can get the job done against anyone!

 

[RDU Irish]

Yeah, I didn't see until today that was called and INT and couldn't wrap my brain around it since my immediate recollection was the "catch" was so far out of bounds I didn't even consider the possibility it was technically a pick.

 

[FLDomer]

Investigation! Get the Tallahassee PD on this stat!

Man, I have to say, two days later it stings a little more now that I let it marinate. Just F them ya know? Everybody that is saying that it was the right call is trying way too hard. We got jobbed, but can't change it. Time to move forward and kick some ass in the process! I also think that this can be the great motivator that springboards this team to elite status. Beating Stanford and Oklahoma in 12' and MSU in 13' proved a lot to me, but after Saturday I have no doubt we can get the job done against anyone!

Tally PD is on it........they are done, and the conclusion is insufficient evidence.

 

[IRISH in MT]

They weren't complaining to the officials they were arguing with each other about the blown coverage. That is 1 part of this that is obvious, it shouldn't have been called. Ramsey turns around to yell at teammates for the way they played their coverage, not looking for a flag.

I thought that may have been the case. It certainly looked that way. He was mad about something but his hands were on CJ first for sure.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

"Back and to the left... Back and to the left"

Either this guy is inept or I might just have to accept a conspiracy....

An ACC officiating crew making a very controversial call to keep their conference's only play-off contender undefeated? Psh. Nothing to see here!

 

[GoIrish41]

Investigation! Get the Tallahassee PD on this stat!

Man, I have to say, two days later it stings a little more now that I let it marinate. Just F them ya know? Everybody that is saying that it was the right call is trying way too hard. We got jobbed, but can't change it. Time to move forward and kick some ass in the process! I also think that this can be the great motivator that springboards this team to elite status. Beating Stanford and Oklahoma in 12' and MSU in 13' proved a lot to me, but after Saturday I have no doubt we can get the job done against anyone!

They are also standing right there. LOL. Reports are that they saw nothing.

 

[connor_in]

Quick question...how can it be clarified that it is on CJ if the ruling has gone back and forth like 12 times? How is that clarified/clear if the answer keeps changing? That makes it even less clear like Kelly said. Also, if they say you could call it on both, then the refs still screwed up by not calling both (much less the removed helmet or possibly DPI).


Any way you slice it, we are well and truly F*ed as it is over and they won't reverse the call...but still, a definitive statement that does not get changed puts finality to it.

 

[NDohio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Nobody expects the ACC officials to change OPI call. But same back judge who threw flag called this an INT. <a href="http://t.co/pyFOyMION1">pic.twitter.com/pyFOyMION1</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/status/524229349793619968">October 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This is allegedly the same ref that flagged Tuitt for targeting against Pitt last year.

Look at the pylons in that picture. I don't think the white line is OOB, I think it's just part of the endzone design.

 

[Luckylucci]

An ACC officiating crew making a very controversial call to keep their conference's only play-off contender undefeated? Psh. Nothing to see here!

So true, and to think some don't believe that type of stuff happens.

 

[RDU Irish]

Investigation! Get the Tallahassee PD on this stat!

Man, I have to say, two days later it stings a little more now that I let it marinate. Just F them ya know? Everybody that is saying that it was the right call is trying way too hard. We got jobbed, but can't change it. Time to move forward and kick some ass in the process! I also think that this can be the great motivator that springboards this team to elite status. Beating Stanford and Oklahoma in 12' and MSU in 13' proved a lot to me, but after Saturday I have no doubt we can get the job done against anyone!

This could be there straw that stirs the drink to a national championship. I would like nothing more than either a rematch for the title after beating the SEC champ in the quarter finals.