'15 FL OLB Te'Von Coney (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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Luckylucci said:
Per Loy who seems to be pretty connected here there is a concern if Tevon wants the academic work load at ND. He understands what ND has to offer but it can be overwhelming and this is something that he'll have to decide if it's for him or not. Loy still likes our chances as the family is in our corner but he's also stated in the past the longer this goes the worse it is for our chances.
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In the words of Sherm, "He Gone".
 
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Luckylucci said:
Per Loy who seems to be pretty connected here there is a concern if Tevon wants the academic work load at ND. He understands what ND has to offer but it can be overwhelming and this is something that he'll have to decide if it's for him or not. Loy still likes our chances as the family is in our corner but he's also stated in the past the longer this goes the worse it is for our chances.
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This will come back to bite the team I believe. He is flat out saying I don't know if I want to work that hard in the classroom. I would think it is time to move on.
 
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If he's planning to EE, he's got to be fairly serious about academics, right?
If he stayed with Bryant, hopefully he got an earful about the expectations - and the opportunity - that comes with choosing Notre Dame. Also the distance from South Florida. Yes?
And if his parents are in our corner, that would seem to be a good influence.
I agree that if knowing all that he still chooses Florida, then we probably shouldn't lose too much sleep over this one. But I'm not sure why we're quite so down on young Mr. Coney all of a sudden. It's a big decision. Give him a little time. Some people make the right choice in the end.
 
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Personally, I think having GB with him was perfect then. GB from FL, chose us over local FL schools, had a hard time last year and adjusted his mindset.
 
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Awesome that Greg Bryant hosted him since Bryant had transfer thoughts and it obviously clicked for him, and that he's from Florida. Just two squad members, having a good ole time...

But I wonder if Riggs got to talk with Coney at all? Assuming Riggs thinks ND >> Florida, what a great recruiting tool he could be for a kid deciding between the two.
 
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If he think it's too much for him then so be it. Would rather not have another Sykes situation happen again.
 
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It's understandable that anyone faced with an arduous task takes their time and is honest about their feelings.

Let him work through them. If we had 5 other linebackers knocking on the door then he'd have to hurry it up but as is stands, he appears to be one of our final candidates. If he doesn't want the work of ND, then give him the play of Florida.

We will still have a very good recruiting class before it's all finished.
 
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#1rish said:
If he think it's too much for him then so be it. Would rather not have another Sykes situation happen again.
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While we can't always assume we're going to unearth some diamond in the rough every year, I agree with the sentiment - better this kid chooses Florida now then change his NSD-eve. Or worse- during freshman year.

EDIT: scratch first part, was thinking Hill, not Sykes for some reason.
 
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Are you saying Loy feels that Bilals indecision between Michigan and Notre Dame centers on academic workload as well?
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I wondered the same thing; inquiring minds want to know.

I think there is a situation of polar opposites in recruiting, if I have ever seen one.

After three years of observing a little about recruiting, and life, and how ND works, I have come to two indisputable conclusions : These kids are real human beings as flawed as all of the rest of us; and, things rarely appear to these seventeen, and eighteen year olds as clear as they do to us older guys.

And there is one more thing. Many of these kids don't have the same background as us. I know there are kids and families who show up as recruits for tours that have never traveled further than their teams farthest athletic contest. I have seen kids and talked to family at recruiting events from the south, that have had to borrow clothing warm enough to tour north of the Mason-Dixie line in October. And there are kids that are not only going to be the first family member to go to college, but even the first to complete high school.

Especially when it comes to the south, (SEC states), the education (public in particular) can be very suspect. Not talking about the Woodbury Academy, Eagle Christian, or St Thomas Aquinas's of the world. Talking about the down-home, back-woods public education. Some of these states hold so many top instate prospects, because they cannot qualify for out of state schools, with basic standards. For any UNC that gets called to carpet for exploiting illiterate kids, there is a primary and secondary school (or many) behind it.

Also, one out of twenty students qualifies for some kind of special help indicating a level of nuanced learning. I would like to see the actual ratio with gifted athletic boys. I bet it is higher. So, from culture, to educational experience, to family influence, to ability, there are many private considerations, hopes and fears among these kids that influence decisions in ways we cannot understand. And then there is money . . .
 
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I don't get that from Bilal at all. I think in his case, Michigan made him a priority from the get go, and he liked that attention. BK and co. have made him feel a priority as well, and I think he sees us having the better class, not to mention Mattison is a damn good recruiter......I still think we land him. As for Coney, I'm not real sure with him. He likes ND a lot, and Florida as well, but I'm not sure they want him as much much as he wants them.....we shall see, though
 
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connect the dots said:
Are you saying Loy feels that Bilals indecision between Michigan and Notre Dame centers on academic workload as well?
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Not from Loy, from Anna. I mean it slightly more broadly. She has commented a couple of times she's not quite sure if Bilal wants to deal with all the rigors of being an ND football player, not just academically.
 
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Bogtrotter07 said:
I have come to two indisputable conclusions : These kids are real human beings as flawed as all of the rest of us; and, things rarely appear to these seventeen, and eighteen year olds as clear as they do to us older guys.
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Your two conclusions are contradictory. On the one hand you say the youngsters are as flawed as all of us, but then you say we see things clearer. If we see things clearer but as flawed as the youngsters, then clearly their flawed thinking is as equally clear as our flawed thinking. But then, the flaws in our clear thinking could not be superior to their lack of clarity the youngsters have. So if they do not think as clearly as we older guys, then their flaws must be clearly more flawed than ours. Clearly these kids have fallen victim to a classic blunder the most famous of which is "Never go against a Thithilian when death is on the line." Ha ha ha ha ha ha .......
 
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So Coney canceled his Florida visit this weekend....

What's the scoop on this? Commit coming immediately?
 
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Not visiting Florida this weekend as was scheduled, but says he will visit once more before decision, per ISD.
 
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dwshade said:
Bilal is a perfect fit academically for ND. Very bright kid. Academic workload is not a concern with him.
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Where are you getting info on his academic abilities from?

Just curious.

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Luckylucci said:
Per Loy who seems to be pretty connected here there is a concern if Tevon wants the academic work load at ND. He understands what ND has to offer but it can be overwhelming and this is something that he'll have to decide if it's for him or not. Loy still likes our chances as the family is in our corner but he's also stated in the past the longer this goes the worse it is for our chances.
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Actually, I think you have it backwards. I think the longer this goes, the BETTER it is for our chances. The fact is that the easy decision is Florida. Easy decisions take less time to make. The fact that it's gonna take longer, and Kelly wants him to take his time, makes me believe that the time aspect improves ND chances, not hurts them.
 
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NDSean44 said:
Actually, I think you have it backwards. I think the longer this goes, the BETTER it is for our chances. The fact is that the easy decision is Florida. Easy decisions take less time to make. The fact that it's gonna take longer, and Kelly wants him to take his time, makes me believe that the time aspect improves ND chances, not hurts them.
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Disagree completely.
 
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