'15 LA OT/DT Jerry Tillery (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Crazy Balki]

Pulling top players from La is difficult but not impossible. But it would be wise not to underestimate the enormous pressure these players have to endure to "stay at home." I am sure Tillery is getting an earful from most every person he comes in to contact with on a daily basis. Hopefully he stays true to his commitment, but flipping at some point would not shock me.

I'm fully aware of that, but it seems to me that that's beginning to turn against LSU. I'd probably feel the same if I was being bombarded everywhere I go, by people going on about LSU and how I should go there and win SEC titles. I can see where it'd wear on someone's last nerve. The fact that the Hoge's were talking with the Tillery's also has me thinking that he will stick.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Shouldn't read anything into anything that any recruit says with regards to commitment status. There are literally hundreds of examples as to why, and at least 1 ND example in each of the past few recruiting classes.

It is what it is for Tillery. We're in a battle (but obviously lead for) a top OT prospect from an area we don't recruit well. It's a position of luxury where a miss will not burn us, and we'll know when we know whether ND will be his choice. So hopefully we'll be happy come this winter, if not we've got plenty of capable guys in the stables.

Who wants a bowl of Frosted Blakes...err...Flakes! Sorry I get those two mixed up all the time.

 

[NDhoosier]

It is what it is for Tillery. We're in a battle (but obviously lead for) a top OT prospect from an area we don't recruit well. It's a position of luxury where a miss will not burn us, and we'll know when we know whether ND will be his choice. So hopefully we'll be happy come this winter, if not we've got plenty of capable guys in the stables.

What battle though? I am not trying to sound like a dick, but the only battle I see is people on this forum keep saying he is shaky. There has not really been anything that should cause us a stir. The only thing I see is: He is from LA and supposedly his parents favor LSU, but we knew that before he committed. Nothing new, the only battle I have seen is the one a few posters have created on this thread.

 

[GUknights75]

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This should help some people step back off of the ledge a little bit.

 

[NDdomer2]

What battle though? I am not trying to sound like a dick, but the only battle I see is people on this forum keep saying he is shaky. There has not really been anything that should cause us a stir. The only thing I see is: He is from LA and supposedly his parents favor LSU, but we knew that before he committed. Nothing new, the only battle I have seen is the one a few posters have created on this thread.

So you don't think LSU is recruiting him hard? That would be a mistake.

 

[adsnorri]

Anybody else notice that right after Tom asked him if his parents are fully on board, he said "yea, yea" and the clip was edited right after. Could it be that he elaborated there a little but it was edited out?

He seems solid to me. Although "solid" is a relative term in recruiting. Taking other visits is tough to deal with, imo. Leaves the door cracked slightly.

 

[IrishLax]

What battle though? I am not trying to sound like a dick, but the only battle I see is people on this forum keep saying he is shaky. There has not really been anything that should cause us a stir. The only thing I see is: He is from LA and supposedly his parents favor LSU, but we knew that before he committed. Nothing new, the only battle I have seen is the one a few posters have created on this thread.

Any committed recruit that has made 3+ unofficial visits to another school you are in a battle for. Period.

Someone brought this up earlier and I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate but if it's not it's close... Tee Shephard excepted, in the Kelly era we've never had a committed prospect take visits elsewhere after committing and then sign with ND. If we have had that happen, it's in the minority.

 

[arrowryan]

Christian from ISD just reported that Tristen Hoge's parents have been spending a good amount of time with / talking to Jerry's parents at the Opening.

It's a small thing, but can't hurt.

Mr. and Mrs. Hoge are very nice people and if any recruit's parents were talk to Tillery's parents, I would definitely want it to be the Hoges

 

[Ndaccountant]

Any committed recruit that has made 3+ unofficial visits to another school you are in a battle for. Period.

Someone brought this up earlier and I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate but if it's not it's close... Tee Shephard excepted, in the Kelly era we've never had a committed prospect take visits elsewhere after committing and then sign with ND. If we have had that happen, it's in the minority.

Didn't Folston visit Auburn (whether he wanted to flip or not is still murky to me)? I think the point stands, but thought I would bring that one up.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This thread is a great example of manufactured facts to fit predetermined conclusions :

A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

William James

Most men, when they think they are thinking, are merely rearranging their prejudices.

Knute Rockne

 

[IrishLion]

Told Tom not to believe the hype about his LSU interest, will sign with ND.

 

[NDinL.A.]

What battle though? I am not trying to sound like a dick, but the only battle I see is people on this forum keep saying he is shaky. There has not really been anything that should cause us a stir. The only thing I see is: He is from LA and supposedly his parents favor LSU, but we knew that before he committed. Nothing new, the only battle I have seen is the one a few posters have created on this thread.

If that's the only thing you see, then you are refusing to look. It's not just posters on this site making shit up, it's everywhere. When a commit takes multiple visits to another school and still talks to other coaches and still talks to that school's reporters, well, that means you are in a battle with that other school. Sure, he SAYS he's all Irish, but some of his actions say differently.

That's not to say he won't sign with us, but to be blind about it IMHO is foolish. Certain posters think EVERYONE is Irish and ignore all signs despite previous decommitments such a Darby, Little, Anzalone, Hunter, Greenberry, etc etc etc. That's fine to think that way, but they shouldn't chastise others who take a more realistic view based on what a recruit is doing and what others in his same spot have done.

Didn't Folston visit Auburn (whether he wanted to flip or not is still murky to me)? I think the point stands, but thought I would bring that one up.

Folston absolutely wanted to flip. That is 100% fact. That is why he took so long to send in his LOI. If Auburn would have taken him, he would have bounced. Lucky for us he stayed, and he's very happy at ND.

 

[Irish#1]

We're still in good shape here.

 

[NDhoosier]

If that's the only thing you see, then you are refusing to look. It's not just posters on this site making shit up, it's everywhere. When a commit takes multiple visits to another school and still talks to other coaches and still talks to that school's reporters, well, that means you are in a battle with that other school. Sure, he SAYS he's all Irish, but some of his actions say differently.

That's not to say he won't sign with us, but to be blind about it IMHO is foolish. Certain posters think EVERYONE is Irish and ignore all signs despite previous decommitments such a Darby, Little, Anzalone, Hunter, Greenberry, etc etc etc. That's fine to think that way, but they shouldn't chastise others who take a more realistic view based on what a recruit is doing and what others in his same spot have done.

He is from LA, so that trip is not a far one at all. He even stated that one of those trips was not even related to football, and I believe the other was to go with friends. When was the last time he even visited LSU?

You believing you are being realistic and I am not is not really fair. Your are just looking at the glass half empty option, I am looking at the glass half full option. Neither of us should be considered realists. I am not one of those individuals who thinks everyone signs with ND and I have been following recruiting long enough to know when someone is shaky. Tillery does not seem shaky. Is LSU still recruiting him? Yes, but I would be worried if they were not for a local elite talent. Tillery has not shown the same things like Anzalone or Darby.

Basically, history has scared a few of you and it is kind of bothersome that every time this thread gets bumped, someone has to check on his "commitment status" when there is literally nothing new that has happened that would jeopardize it.

He is still committed to ND and has shown no signs of decommitment.

EDIT: His last visit to LSU listed on 247 was Feb 15 for their Junior Day. That was almost 5 months ago and he is still a ND commit.

 

[STLDomer]

He is from LA, so that trip is not a far one at all. He even stated that one of those trips was not even related to football, and I believe the other was to go with friends. When was the last time he even visited LSU?

You believing you are being realistic and I am not is not really fair. Your are just looking at the glass half empty option, I am looking at the glass half full option. Neither of us should be considered realists. I am not one of those individuals who thinks everyone signs with ND and I have been following recruiting long enough to know when someone is shaky. Tillery does not seem shaky. Is LSU still recruiting him? Yes, but I would be worried if they were not for a local elite talent. Tillery has not shown the same things like Anzalone or Darby.

Basically, history has scared a few of you and it is kind of bothersome that every time this thread gets bumped, someone has to check on his "commitment status" when there is literally nothing new that has happened that would jeopardize it.

He is still committed to ND and has shown no signs of decommitment.

EDIT: His last visit to LSU listed on 247 was Feb 15 for their Junior Day. That was almost 5 months ago and he is still a ND commit.

He's probably at least 4 hours from LSU.

He visited LSU around a month ago.

His parents want him at LSU.

He's still planing on visiting LSU as well as Texas in the future.

 

[IrishLax]

Basically, history has scared a few of you and it is kind of bothersome that every time this thread gets bumped, someone has to check on his "commitment status" when there is literally nothing new that has happened that would jeopardize it.

He is still committed to ND and has shown no signs of decommitment.

EDIT: His last visit to LSU listed on 247 was Feb 15 for their Junior Day. That was almost 5 months ago and he is still a ND commit.

That's not accurate though, because he made another unofficial visit to LSU in June right before Irish Invasion. People are looking at his repeated visits coupled with the fact that he's keeping open communication with LSU as a sign of serious interest in the Tigers. And that's correct.

He's also been quoted saying that he's committed to Notre Dame right now because he feels Notre Dame is the best place for him to meet all of his personal goals (football, scholastic, etc... he had a list), but if that changes and he thinks another place is the best option for him that's where he's going to go.

On top of keeping open interest in LSU, he also has some serious interest in Stanford and it'll be interesting to see if anything develops there. And he has cursory interest in some other schools as well. You're right that he's very different than Darby/Anzalone. He's approaching the process in a refreshingly open and honest manner. Every recruit is unique, and Jerry comes off as more intellectual and thoughtful than just about 99% of other college recruits.

If signing day were today I fully believe he'd pick ND. He's at a position closer to "luxury" than "dire need/gaping hole" so a change of heart won't burn us too badly. And he's an EE which will give us clarity sooner rather than later. And there are a lot of reasons to believe he sticks with ND. So lots and lots of positives.

But the threats are also very real.

 

[rtrn2glory]

yea any commit who visits another school regardless of the reasons is nothing better than a soft verbal.

that's the bottom line and no one can change that thinking from me.

 

[Crazy Balki]

He is from LA, so that trip is not a far one at all. He even stated that one of those trips was not even related to football, and I believe the other was to go with friends. When was the last time he even visited LSU?

You believing you are being realistic and I am not is not really fair. Your are just looking at the glass half empty option, I am looking at the glass half full option. Neither of us should be considered realists. I am not one of those individuals who thinks everyone signs with ND and I have been following recruiting long enough to know when someone is shaky. Tillery does not seem shaky. Is LSU still recruiting him? Yes, but I would be worried if they were not for a local elite talent. Tillery has not shown the same things like Anzalone or Darby.

Basically, history has scared a few of you and it is kind of bothersome that every time this thread gets bumped, someone has to check on his "commitment status" when there is literally nothing new that has happened that would jeopardize it.

He is still committed to ND and has shown no signs of decommitment.

EDIT: His last visit to LSU listed on 247 was Feb 15 for their Junior Day. That was almost 5 months ago and he is still a ND commit.

Take it from someone who's learned the hard way. Optimism is NOT allowed on ND boards!

 

[NDinL.A.]

Take it from someone who's learned the hard way. Optimism is NOT allowed on ND boards!

No, stupidity is looked down on. Optimism is fine...people will debate to topics from all ends of the spectrum, which is great. But when someone puts blinders on, ignores all facts or just straight out says the facts are lies lol and he isn't buying it, well, that's when people get on a poster.

You won't find a more positive ND board than this. But thankfully, people will also call a spade a spade, and when someone is being blinded by ND goggles, they'll comment on it.

 

[Booslum31]

Take it from someone who's learned the hard way. Optimism is NOT allowed on ND boards!

now that's funny.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Being a former residence of Louisiana, I can tell you that the lure of LSU is not the same in Shreveport as it is in Baton Rouge and the NO area. It is a whole different world there. If this guy lived in Baton Rouge or nearby, I would say no way in Hades is he coming. Being from Shreveport, if we ever had a chance to lure a LA recruit, this is it.

I remember years ago when Weis landed in BR to recruit a kid who played both DL and OL. There was a big fuss and chatter about the ND jet landing in town. Weis paid the visit but there was never any real threat.

LSU football is sacred to BR people. SHreveport, not so much. It would be like a South Bend kid going to OSU over ND but you could see a kid from say Jeffersonville, IN going other places than ND. Same game in this case.

I think we are good. Of course, time will tell. If we lose 4-5 games this year and LSU rolls (which I dont see after losing their QB), we could be in trouble. Amazing how the immediate success of a team influences what these kids choose as their life's educational investment.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> commit Jerry Tillery Handles Kendell Jones <a href="https://t.co/LEfwQGgCgL">https://t.co/LEfwQGgCgL</a></p>— Barton Simmons (@bartonsimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/bartonsimmons/statuses/487304081216901120">July 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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That's a 2016 5-Star:
Kendell Jones

 

[Luckylucci]

No, stupidity is looked down on. Optimism is fine...people will debate to topics from all ends of the spectrum, which is great. But when someone puts blinders on, ignores all facts or just straight out says the facts are lies lol and he isn't buying it, well, that's when people get on a poster.

You won't find a more positive ND board than this. But thankfully, people will also call a spade a spade, and when someone is being blinded by ND goggles, they'll comment on it.

Didn't see this until now but totally agree. I came to this board because of the quality of discussion and opinions.

 

[dad4aa]

I need help from you vine experts. I don't know if these are blocked by our companies intranet or not, but I can never watch any of these links. When I click on them, it takes me to a vine homepage where I have to log in. Do I have to have a vine account to watch these? I really wnat to see some of these videos of the recruits in action. Thanks!!

 

[ResLife Hero]

I need help from you vine experts. I don't know if these are blocked by our companies intranet or not, but I can never watch any of these links. When I click on them, it takes me to a vine homepage where I have to log in. Do I have to have a vine account to watch these? I really wnat to see some of these videos of the recruits in action. Thanks!!

I usually play them within Twitter, and when I paste them in threads, they just play (on mute) when I open the thread. Not sure about others, but it might be your work's restrictions.

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

I need help from you vine experts. I don't know if these are blocked by our companies intranet or not, but I can never watch any of these links. When I click on them, it takes me to a vine homepage where I have to log in. Do I have to have a vine account to watch these? I really wnat to see some of these videos of the recruits in action. Thanks!!

It could be a file is needed? Could be a block. You don't need a login.

 

[ozzman]

I need help from you vine experts. I don't know if these are blocked by our companies intranet or not, but I can never watch any of these links. When I click on them, it takes me to a vine homepage where I have to log in. Do I have to have a vine account to watch these? I really wnat to see some of these videos of the recruits in action. Thanks!!

I had that happen in IE. If you put the links in Chrome, they work fine.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Take it from someone who's learned the hard way. Optimism is NOT allowed on ND boards!

That's ironic. NDNation mocks IE as board for Pollyannas.

You won't find a more positive ND board than this. But thankfully, people will also call a spade a spade, and when someone is being blinded by ND goggles, they'll comment on it.

Put another way: optimists are welcome, but Pollyannas get criticized.

 

[Luckylucci]

Loy is very confident he ends up Irish. The parents spent a lot of time with the Hoge's and sources indicate the parents are substantially more comfortable with him being in South Bend around such people.

- I don't believe that yet. Mother has claimed to be a huge Irish fan but at the same time pushing him to LSU. So I'll wait before I get there.

 

[Irish#1]

I need help from you vine experts. I don't know if these are blocked by our companies intranet or not, but I can never watch any of these links. When I click on them, it takes me to a vine homepage where I have to log in. Do I have to have a vine account to watch these? I really wnat to see some of these videos of the recruits in action. Thanks!!

If your company was blocking access, you wouldn't even get that far.