'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

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Don't remember quoting you or anyone but if you want to be held accountable then so be it.

You want to be an optimist all the time, that's your right. It's stale bread though. You purposely ignore the reality of every single situation and get mad when others are frustrated. Keep it to yourself. When 100 people are pissed about something and you are one of like 4 guys that gets mad at everyone else, then that's on you. We aren't "nancys" or whatever you like to call us. It's emotional investment. I follow Notre Dame football with my heart and mind---sometimes the heart takes over.

I'll send you the 12 bucks right now if you think your varsity club status (which I also held for a couple years up until it recently expired) entitles you to ignore reality and call me or whoever else out because we get upset about a BAD THING happening to our program. The way you talk you make it sound like Barnett going elsewhere is a positive. That's just naive.

You want to post something positive to cope with a decommit, that's cool with me. If I want to post a bunch of curse words and get temporarily mad at the world because that's how I cope, then let me do that without calling me some name.

/rant

If you act like a child throwing a tantrum in the store, then you're likely to be called a child, by someone. I don't think my $12 entitles me to anything, other than the right to come here and post, provided I abide by the terms of service. *You* were the one that told anyone who disagreed with you to just get off of the site. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, it is the few who keep their heads about them, who are the righteous, and not the masses, who lose theirs and fly off of the handle? I'm not offended by any cursing you do, so I'm not sure why you brought that up. I used to be a sailor, and I have heard, and spoken, just about it all.

You called this a "BAD THING". Tell me.......... how is it bad? Because all it is, is a mid recruiting cycle defection. As I pointed out, it could very well end up a positive, or at least a neutral outcome. One of the things that I have learned in life, is the truth of the old adage that "Whenever one door closes, one more door opens." Some advice about investing (financially, OR emotionally); it's never a wise idea to put ALL of your investment into the same commodity. Balance is often the difference between happiness and sorrow, in life.

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Where is everyone getting the idea that hes no longer considering ND at all?
 

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I thought the same thing and asked if ND played hardball and was told no.

I believe that you were told that but I also believe that is bullshit. IMO BK probably told him to reaffirm his commitment or GTFO. Blake chose to GTFO.
 

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Anyone that believes he's not going to Oregon raise you hand! Bueller? Bueller?

Reading between the lines here, he's very clearly heading to Oregon. He may claim to be "wide open", but I assume it's just to maximize the impact when he commits at Oregon's camp in a couple weeks. And once you've decided to leave your former program high and dry, whatever comments you make on the way out the door are small beer.



Kelly probably doesn't. As other have speculated, I wouldn't be surprised if he told Blake to kick rocks.



It might have looked better to the uninformed, but for those who are paying attention, it's pretty clearly just a timing issue.

See above
 

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That is what I don't get either. Nothing about our program has changed very much since he decided to commit here and spoke glowing words for the first half of this year.

Is he ticked at going away from grass to fieldturf? Didn't like the stadium renovations that are planned?

I get decommitting for his age due to other recruiting measures, but to do it and completely close the door with nothing major occurring puzzles me. maybe he is failing his foreign laguage class and doesn't want to re-take it? It's always that requirement that kills us right?

Oh well...Spin the wheel....

FYI... I heard Steve Wiltfong on Sportsbeat 960 tonight...basically made it sound like this kid always loved Oregon growing up...drew pics of himself in their uniform...took ND as a hell of a safety school ... when Oregon finally offered it was basically just a matter of time as long as he had a good visit and heard the right things...so basically his zooming up the charts hurt us in the end...and as has been alluded to, sounds like there is no one who doesn't believe he won't commit to the ducks
 

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Even if he is simply going to commit to Oregon, which I believe is the case. For him to say that he is opening his recruitment to anywhere EXCEPT ND...If that is true, this guy is now my most hated recruit ever. To go from 100% committed to black balling the Irish, you're just dead to me kid...

It's happened before, and most later in the process.
 

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It's happened before, and most later in the process.

Not really. At least, not in my previous experience. With guys like Darby, there was a telling sign that he was going to decommit, as he was still visiting schools. Or with Hood, who was convinced to stay closer to home by his dad. I was originally pissed because he didn't give ND a chance to convince him he made the right choice in the first place. But not (supposedly) black balling them all together? That's just despicable.
 

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It's happened... Justin Trattou comes to mind... he went from firm to no longer considering ND in a span of like 48 hours... and that was right at the end of the cycle. There have been others over the years that may not exactly match this, but really hurt and were far too late in the cycle, or even far PAST it...
 
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FYI... I heard Steve Wiltfong on Sportsbeat 960 tonight...basically made it sound like this kid always loved Oregon growing up...drew pics of himself in their uniform...took ND as a hell of a safety school ... when Oregon finally offered it was basically just a matter of time as long as he had a good visit and heard the right things...so basically his zooming up the charts hurt us in the end...and as has been alluded to, sounds like there is no one who doesn't believe he won't commit to the ducks


It's a cop out and 247 trying to save face as best they can. Read what TJ from II has said. It's dirtier then just him being a fan.


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why would he keep them an option if he knows where he is going? This whole open to others schools talk is bogus. I thought everyone was seeing through that, apparently not.
 

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I will never trust a verbal commitment unless he says something like "why commit, if you're not committed?" and comes to ND to deliver the commitment face to face with the coach. Oh wait, I forgot that happened in this case.
I wonder if the decommitment was delivered face to face to the coach? To that end, what is the Kelly tweet when a verbal decommits? "You aren't ND"?
This kid will be a great player sorry not for us.
I will even honor my commitment to watch him play against Brady White this fall wearing my ND gear as planned.
 

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It's part of recruiting guys... buckle up, because this almost certainly won't be the last flip away from us this cycle...

and we are sure to flip some guys in return.

If it really upsets you, I'd suggest trying to ignore recruiting.
 

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It's part of recruiting guys... buckle up, because this almost certainly won't be the last flip away from us this cycle...

and we are sure to flip some guys in return.

If it really upsets you, I'd suggest trying to ignore recruiting.

you're just drunk on power, what do you know?
 

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It's part of recruiting guys... buckle up, because this almost certainly won't be the last flip away from us this cycle...

and we are sure to flip some guys in return.

If it really upsets you, I'd suggest trying to ignore recruiting.

You shut your mouth. Don't put that on us.
 
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i suppose that it's useless to even bother to add to the primal screamfest that we're having here, but this issue [Barnett's decommitment] really doesn't bother me with the heat that it seems to bother most others. But first, the saddening aspect of this for me:

A). Young Mr Barnett seems to not only have a huge imaginable upside but seems to have convinced quite a few other folks of that aura about him.

B). Therefore it seems that perhaps more important, or at least AS important, could have been his serving as an unofficial recruiting anchor to pull in other big fish.

But, as regards both of those things, they are romantic speculations with as yet no real world payoffs for Notre Dame, so one would think that one's own emotional attachment to them should be viewed equally "speculative" and measured.

So second, the upside about Notre Dame football despite this:

A'). Despite some commenters here not wanting anybody to voice opinions other than the one that they want to hear, I look at our QB situation and see a three-person eligibility-separated stack of talent that looks damm good to me. People on here generally love Everett, were wowed by certain things that Malik was doing in the Spring, and we've just had some incredibly over-the-top assessments of DeShone's ceiling [Colin Kaepernick for goodness sake.] Now how could anyone still in contact with their cerebral cortex decide that we're obviously screwed by this? I'm guessing that anyone of us could put together a non-crazy argument for any of our three stud QBs one day being an All-American. Sure they might not be, but how's that really different from Blake?

B'). We have a lot of recruiting left in us this "season". People say that this comes at a bad time --- well, when ever would be a good time? I say this is as good as any, since Coach can go after another stud knowing the lay-of-the-land with a young man who was a decommitment waiting to happen.

C'). We're going to kick some ass this season, and a lot of youngsters out there are going to like it.

I had romantic fictions about this guy becoming Aaron Rodgers in an ND jersey too. It was fiction. I can dream up plenty of other story lines with just as good characters.
 

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It's part of recruiting guys... buckle up, because this almost certainly won't be the last flip away from us this cycle...

and we are sure to flip some guys in return.

If it really upsets you, I'd suggest trying to ignore recruiting.

So true.
 

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Ryan Perrilloux a few years ago decommited on NSD from Texas to go to LSU. He told reporters 5 days before NSD that he was 100% committed to Texas then flipped. He committed to Texas in July and left them hanging all the way till NSD. It could be worse. 8+ months until NSD, more than enough time to find our guy.
 

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Ryan Perrilloux a few years ago decommited on NSD from Texas to go to LSU. He told reporters 5 days before NSD that he was 100% committed to Texas then flipped. He committed to Texas in July and left them hanging all the way till NSD. It could be worse. 8+ months until NSD, more than enough time to find our guy.

And that's exactly why you take a QB every year. There's nothing stopping this from happening 1,2,3 years in a row.

Brian Kelly won with Tommy Rees and a QB in his first year as a starter. He can win without this kid.
 

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I haven't said a whole lot on this topic but I am glad to see this happen now instead of Jan 24, 2015. Gives our coaches time to bring in another quality prospect. I know the coaches will handle this with respect even though being PISSED off. One thing that I don't think is disrespectful but some could see it as spiteful but I would like to see his offer pulled. That way in case he gets hurt (which I hope doesn't happen to him) and the ducks decide at last min they don't wan to take a chance his doors at ND are closed.
 

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Ryan Perrilloux a few years ago decommited on NSD from Texas to go to LSU. He told reporters 5 days before NSD that he was 100% committed to Texas then flipped. He committed to Texas in July and left them hanging all the way till NSD. It could be worse. 8+ months until NSD, more than enough time to find our guy.

Going on ten years ago...
 

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I haven't said a whole lot on this topic but I am glad to see this happen now instead of Jan 24, 2015. Gives our coaches time to bring in another quality prospect. I know the coaches will handle this with respect even though being PISSED off. One thing that I don't think is disrespectful but some could see it as spiteful but I would like to see his offer pulled. That way in case he gets hurt (which I hope doesn't happen to him) and the ducks decide at last min they don't wan to take a chance his doors at ND are closed.

No way of knowing for sure, but I think BK did pull his offer. I don't see any other way he completely dropped ND from consideration unless that happened.
 

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Anyone with Rivals?

Same bullshit we've already heard. I rushed the decision blah blah blah. Kelly told me I was his guy so I wanted to commit.

EDIT: When Farrell asks him if ND is out he gets a bit sheepish. IMO, he must have taken some heat from Kelly and staff for jumping ship. Maybe I just read that into the interview, but his demeanor seemed to change a bit.
 
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