'15 OH CB Shaun Crawford (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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I read the 9-3 and thought WTF, then saw at best and I thought for sure. Haha. I could see 7-5 easily with Hoke getting fired.

7-5 would be borderline criminally bad. That means they lost to 2 of Utah, Minnesota, Penn St., Indiana, Maryland and Northwestern with no top 25 wins
 

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7-5 would be borderline criminally bad. That means they lost to 2 of Utah, Minnesota, Penn St., Indiana, Maryland and Northwestern with no top 25 wins

I can see 2 of NW, PSU, and Maryland beating them. I wouldn't bet on it but I also wouldn't bet against it. Let me add that I don't think Hoke is a very good coach. I could see him lose the team this year if they get off to a bad start.
 
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I think it all depends on Michigan's defense. They have a lot of pieces (Peppers, Ryan, Clark, Countess, Pipkins, Thomas, etc.) that COULD step up big... but could also be rather ordinary. Mattison is a good coach, and if their D plays at a high level that alone could win them a lot of games in a weak conference.
 

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I dont like how any of the media has handled this kids recruitment. But to each their own.

Good player. Its good to see talented kids actually be recruited reguardless of size.
 

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a planned decommitment that is reported by third parties before reported by the kid? bothers me, personally. write the article after the kid decommits.

ultimately, if they didnt want this stuff getting to third parties they should keep it in house. i understand that isnt the easiest thing to do in the world of college crootin but they could have done better IMO.
 

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I dont like how any of the media has handled this kids recruitment. But to each their own.

Good player. Its good to see talented kids actually be recruited reguardless of size.

Don't lie, you're a Crawford hater.
 

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Loy posted this morning that as of last night around 11pm Shaun had not decommited. He hasn't spoken with Hoke either.
 

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It should also be noted that, as far as I'm aware, the person "reporting" the decommit first was a ChatSports writer. That's less reputable than a random message board poster, those guys are all trolls with no sources who make up stuff for hits.
 

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It should also be noted that, as far as I'm aware, the person "reporting" the decommit first was a ChatSports writer. That's less reputable than a random message board poster, those guys are all trolls with no sources who make up stuff for hits.

I hate the media so much. With twitter, blogging, etc being a huge resource for "news" these days, I seriously wish it'd become better regulated. It should be completely illegal to make stuff up and report it as news just to get hits on the site. In this particular case, they could ruin a kid's future or at the very least his trustworthiness. Very few people these days will actually fact-check or cross reference the source of their news, so any rumor, etc can become blown up and trend worldwide. It's ridiculous.
 

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I hate the media so much. With twitter, blogging, etc being a huge resource for "news" these days, I seriously wish it'd become better regulated. It should be completely illegal to make stuff up and report it as news just to get hits on the site. In this particular case, they could ruin a kid's future or at the very least his trustworthiness. Very few people these days will actually fact-check or cross reference the source of their news, so any rumor, etc can become blown up and trend worldwide. It's ridiculous.

Don't disagree with your thought on bogus information getting way too much play, but Twitter is not the media. The actual media has enough issues not to have to be blamed for all the BS that shows up on Twitter, where everyone can have an account and say whatever the hell they want as if it is fact. Same goes with blogging. Anyone can play reporter through blogging, but it doesn't make them a journalist.
 

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I hate the media so much. With twitter, blogging, etc being a huge resource for "news" these days, I seriously wish it'd become better regulated. It should be completely illegal to make stuff up and report it as news just to get hits on the site. In this particular case, they could ruin a kid's future or at the very least his trustworthiness. Very few people these days will actually fact-check or cross reference the source of their news, so any rumor, etc can become blown up and trend worldwide. It's ridiculous.

The funniest part is that the "tell" that the article isn't sourced at all and 100% bullshit is actually later in the article where it says "A source close to the program told me that although Michigan is his favorite school and where he really wants to go there, he has serious doubts in the stability of the coaching staff and keeps hearing from those close to him that Brady Hoke will potentially be fired after this season."

Either he has a really bad source, or he just flat out made this up. The truth is closer to the fact that Crawford liked ND on his visit more than he liked Michigan, but no offer came. Ohio State was also slow to offer. So Michigan did their typical pressure recruiting, and now Crawford is considering all of his options realizing that he has to make the best choice for himself.

The article, which is the very first mention anywhere of a decommit happening: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Michigan football loses ANOTHER star recruit: <a href="http://t.co/URX1sZZpTL">http://t.co/URX1sZZpTL</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/ChatSports">@ChatSports</a></p>— Michigan Football (@AceChatSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/AceChatSports/statuses/467077362383716352">May 15, 2014</a></blockquote>
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It should also be noted that, as far as I'm aware, the person "reporting" the decommit first was a ChatSports writer. That's less reputable than a random message board poster, those guys are all trolls with no sources who make up stuff for hits.

But it was on the internet. In a blog. Reported by a guy named Ace. And GB linked it. And cited a source. It must be true.
 

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Don't disagree with your thought on bogus information getting way too much play, but Twitter is not the media. The actual media has enough issues not to have to be blamed for all the BS that shows up on Twitter, where everyone can have an account and say whatever the hell they want as if it is fact. Same goes with blogging. Anyone can play reporter through blogging, but it doesn't make them a journalist.

True, but the media will source a tweet or a blog journalist if it fits their agenda. I'm surprised they don't site wikipedia.

The "need to be first" and "need to get site hits" have caused a lot of problems.
 

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Family is on the road to South Bend, should be there around 9. Tom says he'll let everyone know if anything goes down today...
 

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is it just me....or is it kind of weird that Loy's that hooked on this kid to report the kid and his family are on the road driving to a visit.

maybe i'm just over-analyzing
 

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I hope Loy lets us know if they stop at McDonalds or maybe IHOP for breakfast.
 
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When the kid's already cancelled on visit to ND a couple of days before it, and you never know with Hoke, I'm glad to have confirmation that he's 100% on the way.

Great update. Thank Loy!
 
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is it just me....or is it kind of weird that Loy's that hooked on this kid to report the kid and his family are on the road driving to a visit.

maybe i'm just over-analyzing

When the kid's already cancelled on visit to ND a couple of days before it, and you never know with Hoke, I'm glad to have confirmation that he's 100% on the way.

Great update. Thank Loy!

It's the Loy bashers vs. the Loy Soccer Moms who cheer on his every move.

I personally have no problem with the update, and hopefully the Crawford's are OK with his asking for updates from them so much (or maybe they are just giving him the info unsolicited?).

As for today, it's an absolutely glorious day in South Bend. The scenery is beautiful and the weather almost perfect. They couldn't have asked for a better day to visit.
 

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It's the Loy bashers vs. the Loy Soccer Moms who cheer on his every move.

I personally have no problem with the update, and hopefully the Crawford's are OK with his asking for updates from them so much (or maybe they are just giving him the info unsolicited?).

As for today, it's an absolutely glorious day in South Bend. The scenery is beautiful and the weather almost perfect. They couldn't have asked for a better day to visit.

i was wondering this as well. Crawford's may have just shot him a text when they left. or he bugs the shit out of them lol

anyways, with him scheduled to see osu still I'm not expecting a commitment.
 

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As Hollywood said, the weather is absolutely beautiful today. It's been rainy all week too, so the campus is going to look awesome.
 

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Wonder what it's like for a recruit to be there for Commencement. Going to be a great day. Can't believe I'm a year away myself , trying to slow time down.
 

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Wonder what it's like for a recruit to be there for Commencement. Going to be a great day. Can't believe I'm a year away myself , trying to slow time down.

Well that's easy to do. Just go on academic probation...
 
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