'14 IN OLB/S Drue Tranquill (Notre Dame Man)

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If her is 6'2", 230 lbs. I think there is about 100% chance he plays OLB, maybe Nickel, but not safety.

Sounds like a Will to me. I see James O being the safety as things move forward.

I predict him having very little problems adjusting. Speed kills!
 
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Yeah, I don't know if this is worth thinking too hard about but I think Wiltfong was saying (1) there is nobody clearly more athletic than Drue in the 2014 class (possibly hyperbole) and (2) Drue has a collection of athletic traits that allows him to do a range of things that other players on the team can't do (also possibly hyperbole). I don't see the conflict, and to the extent there may be one, I would just reduce what Wiltfong was saying to the common denominator and say that Wiltfong just meant that Drue is really athletic.
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I don't know as much about Drue as some other members of the class. Between what I do know, and the rhyme and meter of recruiting, as I have learned it I would make sure that Drue's measurable were accurate first. Nicky Baratti was advertised as 6'2", 220 some pounds, with a 4.45 second forty.

Nicky has tape like Drue showing him at multiple positions showing off his speed, has good shuttle times to support the acceleration needed to lead to potentially fast speeds, and also for his measurable has remarkably few big dogs offering him cash to play (in today's college football game.) Both players come from good and stable households and are obviously remarkably intelligent. Nicky's play time his freshman year speaks to that.

Interestingly, when Nicky came in he was shorter, by one inch than advertised, and lighter, also. That was explained as him working his weight down because he had been added to the safety group by the ND staff. As I remember he came in with the possibility of playing several positions. But the big thing, all of that not withstanding is that these two guys were not offered tons of scholarships. As Nicky did not have high school injuries predicting what happened last year, the prospect of injury didn't dim his star(s); after all he made 5a all-state in Texas!

So occasionally you get these kids Nicky Baratti, Drue Tranquill, and Cam McDaniel for that matter that don't image quite right for today's college football factory's game, and maybe coaches don't have a way to relate. The kids are really clean cut and no bull-shit, as are their families, and their physical skills seem too good to be true. Maybe they are, but not by much. Cam and Nicky (if he can remain healthy) have pretty much proved they were worth a scholarship at the highest level, (Cam, leading the team in rushing last year; and Nicky's interception in the end zone his freshman year against Michigan, if not his headhunting on the kick team,) cinch it for me. Maybe that was all Wiltfong was trying to say, with a little hyperbole to get your attention and a few clicks.

As far as position for Drue, if he has the overall athletic skills several have asserted, maybe he starts by playing the position based upon other players skills, i.e., where the opening is to get that talent on the field!
 
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What everyone is trying to say is, if they weren't white they would all be five star prospects.
 
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ND sold Baratti on defense while everyone else was selling/seeing him at QB.

ND sold Tranquill on playing a position no one had even mentioned of him playing.

Tranquill is an IDEAL fit for an OLB in BVGs scheme and has the size now that SEC OLBs have in the 4-3. Now in a 3-4 he is ideal for DOG. Jaylon plays there, but Jaylon can be moved around too. But both have that ability to play in space and stop the run. I dont expect Drue to have the season Jaylon did by any means, but he fits what BVG wants to do at LB in a 4-3 and 3-4.

You wanna get really athletic on 3rd and long get a lineup of

Okwara
Day
Ishaq

Onwualu
Jaylon
Tranquill

Redfield
Hardy
Luke
Russell
Riggs or Butler
 
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IrishTP said:
ND sold Baratti on defense while everyone else was selling/seeing him at QB.

ND sold Tranquill on playing a position no one had even mentioned of him playing.

Tranquill is an IDEAL fit for an OLB in BVGs scheme and has the size now that SEC OLBs have in the 4-3. Now in a 3-4 he is ideal for DOG. Jaylon plays there, but Jaylon can be moved around too. But both have that ability to play in space and stop the run. I dont expect Drue to have the season Jaylon did by any means, but he fits what BVG wants to do at LB in a 4-3 and 3-4.

You wanna get really athletic on 3rd and long get a lineup of

Okwara
Day
Ishaq

Onwualu
Jaylon
Tranquill

Redfield
Hardy
Luke
Russell
Riggs or Butler
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Thank you. He is the big winner of the scheme change. He is PERFECT for this system.

And where is Ben Councell? He was once known as super-fast (I know that's different from "athletic")! I love how he has trouble getting big enough for the 3-4, now he is too big for the 4-3. Hmmm.. maybe he should stop trying to put on pounds and go back to his natural weight...

IMO, he is an ideal SAM and will lock down that other OLB position, giving the youngins time to mature.

ILB is the issue.
 
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IrishTP said:
ND sold Baratti on defense while everyone else was selling/seeing him at QB.

ND sold Tranquill on playing a position no one had even mentioned of him playing.

Tranquill is an IDEAL fit for an OLB in BVGs scheme and has the size now that SEC OLBs have in the 4-3. Now in a 3-4 he is ideal for DOG. Jaylon plays there, but Jaylon can be moved around too. But both have that ability to play in space and stop the run. I dont expect Drue to have the season Jaylon did by any means, but he fits what BVG wants to do at LB in a 4-3 and 3-4.

You wanna get really athletic on 3rd and long get a lineup of

Okwara
Day
Ishaq

Onwualu
Jaylon
Tranquill

Redfield
Hardy
Luke
Russell
Riggs or Butler
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Three guys with safety speed at LB. I like it.
 
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Domina Nostra said:
Thank you. He is the big winner of the scheme change. He is PERFECT for this system.

And where is Ben Councell? He was once known as super-fast (I know that's different from "athletic")! I love how he has trouble getting big enough for the 3-4, now he is too big for the 4-3. Hmmm.. maybe he should stop trying to put on pounds and go back to his natural weight...

IMO, he is an ideal SAM and will lock down that other OLB position, giving the youngins time to mature.

ILB is the issue.
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Yeah I loved Councell when he came in. He just had to wait his time, and then Jaylon happened. I think Councell fits anywhere in the 4-3. He can play all 3 spots, maybe BVG will finally move him inside like I have personally wanted for 2 years haha. But, with his speed and athleticism I wouldnt worry if he was at SAM or backed Jaylon up at WILL. The other spot he might be successful at is DE in the pass rush. With the jury still out with Okwara at DE, Councell has proven he can attack the LOS. Hes been a wildcard for most of his career and going into his senior year, he is still a wildcard that if played right could make all the world of difference.
 
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Councell and some of the other LBs are a reason I think ND may give some more formations with an attacking 3-4 scheme. They have so many athletes and guys that dont typically fit a 4-3. I think BVG has cards in he his pocket similar to Derek Mason at Stanford for the last few years.......A ton of athletic freaks with no real position, but you get them on the field and let them go out and make plays.
 
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FLDomer said:
Drue just tweeted he ran a 10.78 100m....that's not too shabby.
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For reference, that's a hair faster than George Campbell ran today. If we're going to have OLBs able to run with 5-star WRs, I'm going to be a happy fan.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2015 5-star WR George Campbell ran a 10.79 in the 100 meters on Saturday. He finished in 5th in the Boys 100 meter State Championship race.</p>— Chris Nee (@CNee247) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNee247/statuses/462971099018297344">May 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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FLDomer said:
Drue just tweeted he ran a 10.78 100m....that's not too shabby.
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ResLife Hero said:
For reference, that's a hair faster than George Campbell ran today. If we're going to have OLBs able to run with 5-star WRs, I'm going to be a happy fan.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>2015 5-star WR George Campbell ran a 10.79 in the 100 meters on Saturday. He finished in 5th in the Boys 100 meter State Championship race.</p>— Chris Nee (@CNee247) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNee247/statuses/462971099018297344">May 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Would be absolutely shocked if the 10.78 for Drue is anything more than a fast hand time. Frankly, anything close to 11.0 would be insane for someone his size.
 
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IrishLax said:
Would be absolutely shocked if the 10.78 for Drue is anything more than a fast hand time. Frankly, anything close to 11.0 would be insane for someone his size.
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exactly....drue's is more likely a hand time than Campbell's due to the fact that Campbell was running in the state championships, but 11.0 accutrack is ridiculous none the less and a 10.78 hand time is about 11.0 accutrack.

would think it would take more than a 10.78 to run in Florida's state meet though....maybe not
 
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GBdomer said:
When has Ben Councell proven he can get after the QB?
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I think TP said attack the line of scrimmage. That would imply stopping the run. He did a good job against Navy and Airforce last year and looked good in 2012 as well.
 
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You are right I read that wrong, I feel like Councell has been at ND for like 6 years I would love to see him finally make a splash. I still remember ND fans drooling over him because he claimed to run a 4.4 Councell has unlimited potential because you can't teach that size and speed.
 
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rtrn2glory said:
must have been his coach's stop watch for the 10.78
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The kids that lift a ton and have massive legs get out of the blocks superfast; however, 230 lbs is harder to haul around than 180.

If he is running a 45 after running 11s, that would mean that kid is in absolutely fantastic shape in that he can sustain a full sprint for 400.
 
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