Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

[Cackalacky]

That second turn.

"the Magic Plane..."

 

[irish1958]

smarty pants....

The devil made me do (say) it!

 

[BobD]

Might have found something near Australia

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Australia says possible objects in ocean - CNN.com

 

[ulukinatme]

No false advertising here

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

Where are all my conspiracy theorists at? Let's get our foil hats on, yo!

It all has to do with the 20 or so Freescale Semiconductors employees on board. They are from a Texas based company reported to be working on top secret projects having to do with...wait for it...airplane cloaking systems!

What an advertising opportunity for the company! "Umm, does our technology work? Yeah, we made a freakin' airliner disappear and hid it from the world for a month! Yes it works! Now hand over the check for 27 quadrillion dollars!"

 

[ACamp1900]

Where are all my conspiracy theorists at? Let's get our foil hats on, yo!

It all has to do with the 20 or so Freescale Semiconductors employees on board. They are from a Texas based company reported to be working on top secret projects having to do with...wait for it...airplane cloaking systems!

What an advertising opportunity for the company! "Umm, does our technology work? Yeah, we made a freakin' airliner disappear and hid it from the world for a month! Yes it works! Now hand over the check for 27 quadrillion dollars!"

According to Einstein the plane should reappear from it's wormhole shortly...

 

[GO IRISH!!!]

According to Einstein the plane should reappear from it's wormhole shortly...

Wouldn't that be awesome though? The plane reappears and lands at its destination. The passengers get off thinking it was just the normal flight time. Not knowing they have been missing for almost a month! That would be so cool!

Or, to go a little more "Close Encounters" - they find the plane intact in the middle of the Gobi Desert with no sign of passengers or crew.

 

[ulukinatme]

Where are all my conspiracy theorists at? Let's get our foil hats on, yo!

 

[#1rish]

Malaysian PM just stated that according to new satellite data, he can confirm that the plane went down in a remote part of the Indian Ocean, with no survivors.

Officials Say Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane 'Ended in the Southern Indian Ocean' - Yahoo

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Malaysian PM just stated that according to new satellite data, he can confirm that the plane went down in a remote part of the Indian Ocean, with no survivors.

Does anyone else have trouble with this?

So far, the scarce amounts of debris that were discovered on satellite have not proven to be associated in any way to flight 370. Now this new satellite data comes out and they confirm it? Did I miss something? Have they physically found the plane? Or are they basing this solely off of satellite data?

 

[Irishnuke]

Yep

Flight 370 passenger's relative: 'All lives are lost' - CNN.com

 

[NDohio]

Finally - closure for the families.

Now, why were they flying that direction?

 

[#1rish]

Finally - closure for the families.

Now, why were they flying that direction?

Assuming that this is all true, and they find the actual wreckage, I guess that's something only the black box can answer.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I'm personally cautiously awaiting the confirmation of this:

Assuming that this is all true, and they find the actual wreckage, I guess that's something only the black box can answer.

 

[notredomer23]

For some reason, I feel this is far from over.

 

[Emcee77]

Assuming that this is all true, and they find the actual wreckage, I guess that's something only the black box can answer.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read that authorities fear that even the black box won't answer all our questions in this case because it doesn't record the entire flight; it only records the last few hours of a flight. It may have been that whatever sealed Flight 370's fate happened several hours before the plane actually crashed, that the plane was just flying on autopilot with all the passengers passed out from smoke/CO/loss of pressure for most of the time it was in the air, and the black box will reveal nothing but a plane silently flying on autopilot.

 

[Henges24]

I don't understand this. There is something fishy about this if it was really found in the Southern part of the Indian Ocean. West of Australia?

That is a complete 180 of where it was supposed to be heading.

 

[NDohio]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read that authorities fear that even the black box won't answer all our questions in this case because it doesn't record the entire flight; it only records the last few hours of a flight. It may have been that whatever sealed Flight 370's fate happened several hours before the plane actually crashed, that the plane was just flying on autopilot with all the passengers passed out from smoke/CO/loss of pressure for most of the time it was in the air, and the black box will reveal nothing but a plane silently flying on autopilot.

I read the same thing.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I read the same thing.

See Payne Stewart : "At 9:33 AM EDT the pilots did not respond to a call to change radio frequencies, and there was no further contact from the plane. The plane was, apparently, still on autopilot and angled off-course, as observed by several U.S. Air Force (and Air National Guard) F-16 fighter aircraft[25] as it continued its flight over the southern and midwestern United States. The military pilots observed frost or condensation on the windshield (consistent with loss of cabin pressure) which obscured the cockpit, and no motion was visible through the small patch of windshield that was clear."

 

[ND NYC]

See Payne Stewart : "At 9:33 AM EDT the pilots did not respond to a call to change radio frequencies, and there was no further contact from the plane. The plane was, apparently, still on autopilot and angled off-course, as observed by several U.S. Air Force (and Air National Guard) F-16 fighter aircraft[25] as it continued its flight over the southern and midwestern United States. The military pilots observed frost or condensation on the windshield (consistent with loss of cabin pressure) which obscured the cockpit, and no motion was visible through the small patch of windshield that was clear."

what a way to go. so sad. and scary as hell. can't even imagine...

 

[Bogtrotter07]

what a way to go. so sad. and scary as hell. can't even imagine...

I know, doesn't that kind of freak you at the lack of control? I feel bad for the family.

But in my case that wouldn't be all bad. I hope I live it up so much from here on out that my decrepit corpse was in such bad shape it could use permanent disposal. Hell, if I have my way it would be radio active! Sláinte!

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read that authorities fear that even the black box won't answer all our questions in this case because it doesn't record the entire flight; it only records the last few hours of a flight. It may have been that whatever sealed Flight 370's fate happened several hours before the plane actually crashed, that the plane was just flying on autopilot with all the passengers passed out from smoke/CO/loss of pressure for most of the time it was in the air, and the black box will reveal nothing but a plane silently flying on autopilot.

This may be dated, but don't know why they would reduce the recording period. From Boeing website:
Flight Data Recorder Rule Change

Today all Boeing current-production models use DFDR systems, which will store 64 12-bit words per second (wps) over a 25-hr period in electronic memory. At the end of the 25 hours, the DFDR will begin recording the most recent data over the oldest data. No tape removal is required with these systems. Each of these systems on every Boeing model (except the 777) have at least two data frames that are transmitted from the DFDAU to the DFDR (see "What Is a Data Frame?" below).

These separate data frames accommodate the different regulatory agency requirements. A 128-wps DFDR was available for the Boeing 777 and MD-90, allowing the development of one data frame that incorporated all regulatory agency requirements and that required operators to develop only one data frame decode algorithm. "How a FAA Rule Is Changed", below, explains the basis on which the FAA may propose rule changes.

 

[Emcee77]

This may be dated, but don't know why they would reduce the recording period. From Boeing website:
Flight Data Recorder Rule Change

Oh great find, TSIR. Reps. Assuming this represents the truth of the matter (and it appears to), we'll know the full story if we find the wreckage.

 

[NDohio]

This may be dated, but don't know why they would reduce the recording period. From Boeing website:
Flight Data Recorder Rule Change

Good to know. I do remember reading about how the black box records in loops and you only get like two hours of recording time before it begins recording over the old info. I can't remember though where I read that.

 

[TheSunIsRising]

From the BBC.
BBC News - Missing plane: How did a UK firm track the plane?

Interesting that the approach to find the plane was suggested very early in the process (March 11th), but there was so much conflicting info that was coming in that Malaysia wasn't initially biting.

Also interesting listening to the last bit about how the technology already exists to make flight information readily available (using SMS-burst messages)

 

[Emcee77]

Good to know. I do remember reading about how the black box records in loops and you only get like two hours of recording time before it begins recording over the old info. I can't remember though where I read that.

Right, I definitely read that in a mainstream news article, so I can't explain why it contradicts what TSIR posted. I guess we'll see.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Oh great find, TSIR. Reps. Assuming this represents the truth of the matter (and it appears to), we'll know the full story if we find the wreckage.

I think there are two different things here. The flight data recorder takes constant measurement of parameters like time, air speed, fuel flow, heading, etc. However, that is complete different from the voice recorder. The voice recorder has a minimum of 2 hours worth of recording (link below).

I think the flight data will be able to tell most of the story here, but it is a possibility that the voice recorder yields silence.

What Would It Take To Destroy A Black Box? : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[Emcee77]

I think there are two different things here. The flight data recorder takes constant measurement of parameters like time, air speed, fuel flow, heading, etc. However, that is complete different from the voice recorder. The voice recorder has a minimum of 2 hours worth of recording (link below).

I think the flight data will be able to tell most of the story here, but it is a possibility that the voice recorder yields silence.

What Would It Take To Destroy A Black Box? : The Two-Way : NPR

Ah yes, that was it, it's coming back to me now. Thanks!

 

[gkIrish]

Ah yes, that was it, it's coming back to me now. Thanks!

 

[TheSunIsRising]

She did sink the Titantic too, IIRC