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Anyone as excited about this as I am? A Seth McFarlane Production with NGT....
Starts tonight at 9pm
 
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Very excited about this show!
I'm thinking it will resemble Through the Wormhole and How the Universe Works.
 

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Very excited about this show!
I'm thinking it will resemble Through the Wormhole and How the Universe Works.


I am initially very excited to watch Cosmos, Neil deGrasse Tyson is REALLY good and the material being discussed should very interesting. I think if you like 'these-types' of shows, your going to like this one as well.



Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman is very different from the rest of 'these-types' of shows; The Universe, How the Universe works, etc, etc all are very similar, where Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman is different from the rest.

Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman usually revolves around 1 themed question (which is sometimes a very silly question, imo) and the show is too Morgan Freeman-centric for my tastes. I like Morgan Freeman, and I like the material they discuss, but I just dont get the heavy dose of MF on the show. I would rather the focus be solely the science, and not the host(an actor). Mike Rowe will narrate some of the other shows, but you NEVER see him on screen.
 

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I thought the earth was only 6000 years old?

Yes, I'll be watching and I am pumped for it.
 

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Heysus, it seems to me like the focus of TTWH was more theoretical physics, whereas the aim of the other programs you mentioned seemed to be explaining what we know at this point about the respective topics.
 

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Super excited about this. My grandfather and I watched 3 episodes of Carl Sagan's original "Cosmos" yesterday and I kept thinking, "this is fantastic, it would be incredible with up to date animations". I hope the CG was given appropriate attention because it could really help solidify some of these ideas in the general populace.
 

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Probably the only thing necessary to keep your crap detectors up and scanning for, will be anti-religion bias, and shots at Catholicism, though subtle. A good friend of mine informs me that the show will continue to spread the myth that Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake by the Church because he postulated that there were likely many inhabited worlds in the universe. This is a clever way to mock the mediaeval Church, but it is historically inaccurate, simplistic, and manipulative. As a Catholic and a Science Teacher with a PhD in the History of Science and Technology, I've had to listen to such anti-Church prejudice out of these guys for a lifetime... but they have an agenda.

But enjoy the actual science in there, I'm sure that they have even more money to work with than my old buddy Carl, and he did wonders with his budget. But even Carl indicated to me that the reason that he went atheist was his disgust with the Church doing things like destroying the Alexandrian library [only marginally true, and then still Dark Ages times] and the Bruno affair.

Science IS good and fun... but only as long as the scientists talk science and get out of areas where they know less than you or I.
 

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Hopefully we get some more of this. My favorite audio from the original Cosmos by Carl Sagen

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And here I thought that someone had started a new, very specific drinking thread ...

I look forward to the show. I like and admire Neil deGrasse Tyson. I get a kick out of Bill Nye and appreciated and soaked up what I could of Carl Sagan.

I always enjoy shows that go a step beyond selling beer, soda/coke/pop/soft drinks and cars. There was a show some decades back – I think it was Connections with a Brit named (I think) James Burke that examined the course of history, politics and science as a hop-scotch interplay over time.
 

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Anyone as excited about this as I am? A Seth McFarlane Production with NGT....
Starts tonight at 9pm


Touting a show on Fox? I keep reading on IE that Fox has nothing but lies and right wing propaganda. Can we trust it? Will Ed have a rebuttle?
 

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Probably the only thing necessary to keep your crap detectors up and scanning for, will be anti-religion bias, and shots at Catholicism, though subtle. A good friend of mine informs me that the show will continue to spread the myth that Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake by the Church because he postulated that there were likely many inhabited worlds in the universe. This is a clever way to mock the mediaeval Church, but it is historically inaccurate, simplistic, and manipulative. As a Catholic and a Science Teacher with a PhD in the History of Science and Technology, I've had to listen to such anti-Church prejudice out of these guys for a lifetime... but they have an agenda.

But enjoy the actual science in there, I'm sure that they have even more money to work with than my old buddy Carl, and he did wonders with his budget. But even Carl indicated to me that the reason that he went atheist was his disgust with the Church doing things like destroying the Alexandrian library [only marginally true, and then still Dark Ages times] and the Bruno affair.

Science IS good and fun... but only as long as the scientists talk science and get out of areas where they know less than you or I.

I completely agree. Give me the science but don't cross into boundaries of philosophy and don't alter history for scientific purposes. I want this show to start at the beginning of what we know and move forward. I don't want conjecture on whether something can come from nothing or if all things must have an original source.
 

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So, I'm pumped for this show. But, sheesh, wtf did they have to start it off with some very obvious teleprompter reading by THAT guy.
 

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So, I'm pumped for this show. But, sheesh, wtf did they have to start it off with some very obvious teleprompter reading by THAT guy.

A President showing support for science is a good thing IMO, whether he's blue or red. I hope other countries did the same.
 

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Probably the only thing necessary to keep your crap detectors up and scanning for, will be anti-religion bias, and shots at Catholicism, though subtle. A good friend of mine informs me that the show will continue to spread the myth that Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake by the Church because he postulated that there were likely many inhabited worlds in the universe. This is a clever way to mock the mediaeval Church, but it is historically inaccurate, simplistic, and manipulative. As a Catholic and a Science Teacher with a PhD in the History of Science and Technology, I've had to listen to such anti-Church prejudice out of these guys for a lifetime... but they have an agenda.

But enjoy the actual science in there, I'm sure that they have even more money to work with than my old buddy Carl, and he did wonders with his budget. But even Carl indicated to me that the reason that he went atheist was his disgust with the Church doing things like destroying the Alexandrian library [only marginally true, and then still Dark Ages times] and the Bruno affair.

Science IS good and fun... but only as long as the scientists talk science and get out of areas where they know less than you or I.

But who will stick up for the Church?!
 

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So, this Bruno fellow was a nut job that had a deluded fantasy? And he was just the one in a billion whose fantasy actually turned out to have some truth?
 

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The last half was much better than the first half. The Catholic/religion bashing seemed so forced and incongruous.
 
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Very pleased. I love the animation and overall it was visually beautiful. Great opening episode that did a great job framing what will come next. Massive scope and scale put into susinct and relatable context from which to move forward. I watched with my family. All enjoyed it. Kudos to Neil, Ann, and Seth.
 

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The whole family enjoyed the first show...never saw my three girls so interested in science. They go to a Catholic school and already knew to expect the church to be slammed a little bit. They liked the part at the end when they said that recorded history only accounted for one second on the Cosmic calendar. I didn't get upset because of Obama's voice because I left the room for that part.
 

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Not impressed at all. Clearly, at least this first episode has as it's agenda an anti-religion (especially Catholic Christianity) focus. That is not science. This was clear from the first half of the episodes Catholic bashing to the finishing remarks that highlighted the worlds major religions being just seconds old on the "cosmic calendar." Got to love the intellectual honesty displayed here. Just call it what it is, an atheistic/materialistic, anti-religious view of the "the cosmos."
 

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In one way, this kind of show reaffirms for me the necessity of a god. The evolutionary scale is utterly immense. Life on earth is a mere few seconds in the cosmos year.

Yet, if life can develop and advance (without the existence of God) in what are mere seconds on the cosmic year, how is the universe not completely teeming with life that is observable by us?

The Milky Way is only 100,000 light years in diameter. Even if alien races were limited to light speed, the whole galaxy should be populated multiple times over. Or we should see the vast wreckage of innumerable alien species of bygone eras. But we don't.

Some people argue that life is just so rare, that we are it. But that seems farcical, conceited, and completely improbable given the immense amounts of time and incredible number of stars and planets. Or rather, it seems far more farcical than belief in an all powerful deity that either created or directed that life.

The awe-inspiring nature of the immense universe is perhaps the best argument for God.
 

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Sounds like a great fictional series. Maybe I'll check it out. Probably not though.
 

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In one way, this kind of show reaffirms for me the necessity of a god. The evolutionary scale is utterly immense. Life on earth is a mere few seconds in the cosmos year.

Yet, if life can develop and advance (without the existence of God) in what are mere seconds on the cosmic year, how is the universe not completely teeming with life that is observable by us?

The Milky Way is only 100,000 light years in diameter. Even if alien races were limited to light speed, the whole galaxy should be populated multiple times over. Or we should see the vast wreckage of innumerable alien species of bygone eras. But we don't.

Some people argue that life is just so rare, that we are it. But that seems farcical, conceited, and completely improbable given the immense amounts of time and incredible number of stars and planets. Or rather, it seems far more farcical than belief in an all powerful deity that either created or directed that life.

The awe-inspiring nature of the immense universe is perhaps the best argument for God.

That's an interesting thought, but I think it underestimates the size of the nothingness we're talking about here and how hostile the overall universe is to life (as we know it). I mean "only 100,000 light years"? Keep in mind that's a speed we don't think anything can accelerate to, and that's literally a straight shot through everything., not even close to covering all the space within it. Also, even if there are colonies of life sailing around in Star Trek ships, we are one of literally billions of potential destinations. You take in the sheer odds of winning the "contact" lottery, plus take into account how much would need to happen for such a species to even make it to the "space travel" stage of societal development, plus the economy, resources (fuel), time (again if nothing goes faster than light you'll be doing this for awhile) necessary and I would think the odds are against us ever making any kind of contact before we go extinct ourselves.
 

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Not impressed at all. Clearly, at least this first episode has as it's agenda an anti-religion (especially Catholic Christianity) focus. That is not science. This was clear from the first half of the episodes Catholic bashing to the finishing remarks that highlighted the worlds major religions being just seconds old on the "cosmic calendar." Got to love the intellectual honesty displayed here. Just call it what it is, an atheistic/materialistic, anti-religious view of the "the cosmos."
Yeah the Catholic nonsense did go on longer than it needed to, but in all honesty the Church played such a huge roll in suppressing science durning the Dark Ages that it needs to be highlighted.

Just imagine if the Church was more open to science durning that period, think about how much further advanced we would be in technology, medicine, ect.

P.S.-I do realize that in a multiverse the positive acceptance of science by the Church did happend since all possible outcomes of decisions are theoretically possible.
P.S.S. The Obama segment at the beginning ticked me off b/c my DVR didn't record the last few minuets of the show. I blame him for that.
 

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So, this Bruno fellow was a nut job that had a deluded fantasy? And he was just the one in a billion whose fantasy actually turned out to have some truth?

I think Bruno should ask the Pizzeria to hold the mushrooms next time
 

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Not impressed at all. Clearly, at least this first episode has as it's agenda an anti-religion (especially Catholic Christianity) focus. That is not science. This was clear from the first half of the episodes Catholic bashing to the finishing remarks that highlighted the worlds major religions being just seconds old on the "cosmic calendar." Got to love the intellectual honesty displayed here. Just call it what it is, an atheistic/materialistic, anti-religious view of the "the cosmos."

I didn't see it, but was anything that was said incorrect!
 
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