'14 MI DE Malik McDowell (Momma Has To Put Up With MSU)

[Irish#1]

On one hand she shows maturity in that she cares for him and wants to protect him from these bad influences. On the other hand she shows immaturity by airing the laundry in public.

 

[dublinirish]

perhaps Malik has been such a douche that his mom felt like she had no other options?

 

[Huntr]

He didn't have his own ceremony...was at a long table with all his HS teammates all announcing at one big school assembly/ceremony

Yes and he shouldn't have been a part of that since where he's going isn't decided.

 

[RDU Irish]

Parents have tried to control their kids from the beginning of time. In their minds it is always in the kids best interest.

What is fascinating to me, the parents want him to go FURTHER from home when 99.9% of the time they selfishly want them closer to home. Based on my own personal experience, I see great value in getting out of state and broadening your perspective. Uncomfortable as that is initially, it really is in your best interest for personal growth. So I have a hard time seeing the scenario were Mama is wrong in this case.

The fact Mama McDowell is so honked off tells me there are either a) bad local influences she wants her son distanced from or b) Something about MSU REALLY rubbed her the wrong way.

Maybe we should send Tony Alford in to mediate....

 

[Bogtrotter07]

On one hand she shows maturity in that she cares for him and wants to protect him from these bad influences. On the other hand she shows immaturity by airing the laundry in public.

Is it immaturity, or lack of couth, functional healthy behavior, or empowerment?

 

[#1rish]

Southfield lineman Malik McDowell commits to Michigan State, but mother still hasn't signed letter | The Detroit News

Reminds me of the Landon Collins fiasco.

 

[palinurus]

I agree with Bogs this far at least: we don't really know the dynamics here. The kid seems to love and respect his parents enough that he wants to have support from BOTH of them. And he's not trashing HER in public.

On the other hand, I don't believe in doing things in a way that will embarrass kids, if it can be helped.

Among the things I wonder about, and think relevant, are: 1) are the parents living together, or separated -- I mean, I'm not being psychologist, but if his mom is a single mother, and has raised the kid alone, she may well have a different mindset about speaking up and protecting her son, as she sees it. It's easier to understand this reaction, if that's true. and 2) What kind of problems do the parents, whether together or separated, have with his local friends? Are they dead-enders, hangers on, or druggies? Or something else? If the parents are separated, but agree on the nature of the friends, that's really telling to me.

Anyway, I don't know. I honor a mother protecting her kid, but think it could have been handled better, of course. But not everyone has had the skillful upbringing that we IE posters have had , so each has to use what they can bring to bear.

 

[DillonHall]

Southfield lineman Malik McDowell commits to Michigan State, but mother still hasn't signed letter | The Detroit News

Reminds me of the Landon Collins fiasco.

More like the Alex Collins situation

 

[Bogtrotter07]

“The ignorance that social media can bring doesn’t bother me,” Greg said earlier Wednesday. “(Malik’s decision) wasn’t about what I wanted. I visited Michigan State. It was great. From what I see they’re building a powerhouse. They can push and push and push him. They see what he can offer.

Malik McDowell's father

From The Detroit News: Southfield lineman Malik McDowell commits to Michigan State, but mother still hasn't signed letter | The Detroit News

Social media, by Bogs : this is all you need to know ---- This is what MSU fans think of the recruitment of Malik McDowell;

Matthew Harmon · Top Commenter
Excited to have him as part of the family. Will be a great DB for us. Cannot have any better DB coaching in the country.
Reply · 15 · Like· Yesterday at 7:50am

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

From The Detroit News: Southfield lineman Malik McDowell commits to Michigan State, but mother still hasn't signed letter | The Detroit News

Social media, by Bogs : this is all you need to know ---- This is what MSU fans think of the recruitment of Malik McDowell;

Do the parents really HAVE to sign off on something like this?

 

[PANDFAN]

Do the parents really HAVE to sign off on something like this?

yes until they are 18, not legally binding

 

[Huntr]

Social media, by Bogs : this is all you need to know ---- This is what MSU fans think of the recruitment of Malik McDowell;

You'll notice that comment is in reference to Jalen Watts-Jackson who also signed w/Sparty yesterday.

 

[Irish#1]

I agree with Bogs this far at least: we don't really know the dynamics here. The kid seems to love and respect his parents enough that he wants to have support from BOTH of them. And he's not trashing HER in public.

On the other hand, I don't believe in doing things in a way that will embarrass kids, if it can be helped.

Among the things I wonder about, and think relevant, are: 1) are the parents living together, or separated -- I mean, I'm not being psychologist, but if his mom is a single mother, and has raised the kid alone, she may well have a different mindset about speaking up and protecting her son, as she sees it. It's easier to understand this reaction, if that's true. and 2) What kind of problems do the parents, whether together or separated, have with his local friends? Are they dead-enders, hangers on, or druggies? Or something else? If the parents are separated, but agree on the nature of the friends, that's really telling to me.

Anyway, I don't know. I honor a mother protecting her kid, but think it could have been handled better, of course. But not everyone has had the skillful upbringing that we IE posters have had , so each has to use what they can bring to bear.

That's a very good question, because pops could sign it and be done. Mom cares about him and he cares about mom's approval, so I think they'll get this worked out.

 

[PANDFAN]

That's a very good question, because pops could sign it and be done. Mom cares about him and he cares about mom's approval, so I think they'll get this worked out.

it stated MOM was the custodial parent...so they are either separated or divorced

 

[Emcee77]

That's a very good question, because pops could sign it and be done. Mom cares about him and he cares about mom's approval, so I think they'll get this worked out.

Pops has signed it, but because he isn't the custodial parent moms has to sign it too.

 

[ACamp1900]

This poor kid... Mom is holding out for tOSU because MSU 'doesn't make their players go to class'... is my understanding correct?

I get watching out for your kid, but that stance is straight dumbshit on the mother's part... if you worry about not attending classes you don't send your kid to tOSU and Urban Meyer...

 

[PANDFAN]

from the handbook, i thought it was 18

from the handbook, i thought it was 18

If you are under the age of 21, regardless of marital status, your parent or legal guardian must sign the NLI.

 

[ND NYC]

the check won't clear if he signs with MSU

this...

 

[Bogtrotter07]

it stated MOM was the custodial parent...so they are either separated or divorced

Pa ND fan is right. Mom is the custodial parent and she needs to sign it for it to go. Until the end of April, I believe when Malik turns 18 (per the paper), but I have a sneaky suspicion that Pa ND fan is right about the 21. Further I believe MSU and most schools want unmarried, or divorced parents to both sign this paperwork.

Greg McDowell said in the article that he wouldn't sign until Malik's mom did.

Thanks for setting me straight on that social media thing. I either couldn't see the indent on my computer with the screen format, or I just didn't pay attention!

 

[NDinMich]

This poor kid... Mom is holding out for tOSU because MSU 'doesn't make their players go to class'... is my understanding correct?

I get watching out for your kid, but that stance is straight dumbshit on the mother's part... if you worry about not attending classes you don't send your kid to tOSU and Urban Meyer...

I've heard this as well as a rumor that while on a visit, he was out late with some players having 'too much fun.' Still a silly reason for the Mom to hold a grudge if you ask me.

 

[connor_in]

Malik McDowell can attend Michigan State if parents won't sign

 

[Irish YJ]

All I want to know is why a person must be 21. If you are no longer considered a minor at 18, WTF....

 

[Kak7304]

All I want to know is why a person must be 21. If you are no longer considered a minor at 18, WTF....

Because NCAA. That's why.

 

[Irishnuke]

You can join the military at 18 without parental consent but you can't decide where to play football. Makes sense.

 

[dublinirish]

you can die for your country but not drink a beer at 18. always thought that was crazy

 

[dublinirish]

You can join the military at 18 without parental consent but you can't decide where to play football. Makes sense.

here's an ethics bomb for you can you commit to Navy, Army or AF to play football without parental consent?

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

here's an ethics bomb for you can you commit to Navy, Army or AF to play football without parental consent?

 

[NDinMich]

Malik McDowell can attend Michigan State if parents won't sign

This is interesting...

That's because transfer penalties are in place as soon as it is signed. All football players who signed letters Wednesday would have to sit out a year if they decide to transfer to another school.

Except for one I guess?

 

[Irishnuke]

here's an ethics bomb for you can you commit to Navy, Army or AF to play football without parental consent?

Yeah I don't see why they wouldn't have to sign a letter of intent so yes, they'd need parental consent. Plus they're aren't officially in the military yet.

 

[kmoose]

Yeah I don't see why they wouldn't have to sign a letter of intent so yes, they'd need parental consent. Plus they're aren't officially in the military yet.

I'm not sure about this.......... The article on McDowell talked about how they needed the signed letter, to get financial aid (scholarship). The academies are "free", so not sure how that would affect the signing requirements.