'14 OH DT Daniel Cage (Notre Dame Signee)

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@TomVH: 4-star DT Daniel Cage visiting Notre Dame Wednesday, Missouri this weekend then announcing on signing day.
 

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@TomVH: 4-star DT Daniel Cage visiting Notre Dame Wednesday, Missouri this weekend then announcing on signing day.

Would hate to see him cancel for weather. Is that a possibility, northern Indiana folk?
 

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Right now it's only cold temps predicted. No major snow. Thank goodness this has hit most of the country so recruits don't think this is normal.
 

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Wiltfong is reporting MSU is the team to beat, but that he thinks they probably could have gotten him to commit last weekend if they pushed for it, and they didn't.

Thus, reading between the lines, that potentially opens the door for us to blow him away on his visit and secure his commitment. MSU's lack of spots and their guys already committed / still after at DT may be to our gain here.
 

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Wiltfong is reporting MSU is the team to beat, but that he thinks they probably could have gotten him to commit last weekend if they pushed for it, and they didn't.

Thus, reading between the lines, that potentially opens the door for us to blow him away on his visit and secure his commitment. MSU's lack of spots and their guys already committed / still after at DT may be to our gain here.

Fingers crossed, especially after the Sawyers cancellation.
 

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Wiltfong is reporting MSU is the team to beat, but that he thinks they probably could have gotten him to commit last weekend if they pushed for it, and they didn't.

Thus, reading between the lines, that potentially opens the door for us to blow him away on his visit and secure his commitment. MSU's lack of spots and their guys already committed / still after at DT may be to our gain here.

Yep. MSU has Enoch Smith in the fold and Craig Evans and Malik McDowell ahead of Cage on the board ... I'm hopeful that we can blow Cage away with how badly we want him and he'll commit on the spot.
 

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Yep. MSU has Enoch Smith in the fold and Craig Evans and Malik McDowell ahead of Cage on the board ... I'm hopeful that we can blow Cage away with how badly we want him and he'll commit on the spot.

remember though he's still got mizzou on the schedule as well.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>DT Daniel Cage previews OV to Notre Dame, which he calls "like a gated community" via <a href="https://twitter.com/DMBerk">@DMBerk</a> ($): <a href="http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM">http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/428249928729501696">January 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>DT Daniel Cage previews OV to Notre Dame, which he calls "like a gated community" via <a href="https://twitter.com/DMBerk">@DMBerk</a> ($): <a href="http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM">http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/428249928729501696">January 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Hmmm... interesting... it's weird reading this kids comments. Seems to like literally everything that ND has to offer. At the same time, he notes that the "gated community" term made him feel like he would be trapped there. Hard to get a read. Mid-week official visit might be pretty lame and not help much either.
 

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Not the most apt term but if by "gated community" he is talking about the ND campus bubble, well, it's one of our major disadvantages. Our campus isn't integrated into the town like so many other schools, and a lot of students like to feel like they are in the middle of a living breathing town, rather than away at camp, which is how I sometimes felt at ND.
 

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Maybe he means it's a really nice campus? A little odd he's saying that when he hasn't even visited there.
 

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I've never heard someone use the term "gated community" positively. Coming from a 17y-old kid, it's almost certainly a negative.
 

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I've never heard someone use the term "gated community" positively. Coming from a 17y-old kid, it's almost certainly a negative.

Definitely needs to take that word out of his recruiting vocabulary lol
 

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That is a weird term to use for a college. It can have a positive connotation to it though. Very successful people that are highly thought of yet want their privacy will often live in a gated community. I can kind of see that with ND. It's the top level neighborhood and you must have a key/pass to get into it.
 

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So do you think the term "gated community" is something he came up with on his own or is it a term he picked up due to some negative recruiting?
 
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That is a weird term to use for a college. It can have a positive connotation to it though. Very successful people that are highly thought of yet want their privacy will often live in a gated community. I can kind of see that with ND. It's the top level neighborhood and you must have a key/pass to get into it.

On the flipside, it's where rich, elitist people shut out the lesser folk, and call the cops on suspicious hoopties that get lost delivering pizza.

It's all about perception... :-/
 

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I've never heard someone use the term "gated community" positively. Coming from a 17y-old kid, it's almost certainly a negative.

Inside looking out.....Positive
Outside looking in.....Negative

17 year old kids don't come up with this stuff on their own...I think this got put into his lexicon through some clever negative recruiter.
 

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Maybe he means it's a really nice campus? A little odd he's saying that when he hasn't even visited there.

So do you think the term "gated community" is something he came up with on his own or is it a term he picked up due to some negative recruiting?

This was my first reaction when I heard he called it a "gated community." How can he know anything about the campus exactly if he hasn't visited it yet? Either he's formulating his own opinions from a distance, or he's picking up negative recruiting from one of the other schools that are going after him. I'm not arguing that what he said isn't completely true, but it's interesting that he already has an opinion on what campus is like.
 

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That is a weird term to use for a college. It can have a positive connotation to it though. Very successful people that are highly thought of yet want their privacy will often live in a gated community. I can kind of see that with ND. It's the top level neighborhood and you must have a key/pass to get into it.

Yeah, I agree, he might just have meant that it's a beautiful, exclusive campus. Without context I can't say whether he meant it negatively or positively.

These kids are not always as articulate as we'd like. Let's just say, if he meant it positively, and I was his editor, I'd have counseled him to use a different term.
 

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On the flipside, it's where rich, elitist people shut out the lesser folk, and call the cops on suspicious hoopties that get lost delivering pizza.

It's all about perception... :-/

I agree. Just looking for the positive side. Gotta try and keep good vibes rolling through next Wednesday ......
 
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I agree. Just looking for the positive side. Gotta try and keep good vibes rolling through next Wednesday ......

I feel ya, man. For the record, I like your perspective much better.

After all, even the folklore of heaven is marked by an entrance through pearly gates...
 

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The quote is taken way out of context Elston desribed it to Cage as a "gated Community". This was not said by Cage
 

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The quote is taken way out of context Elston desribed it to Cage as a "gated Community". This was not said by Cage

Well, I hope Elston knows thats what Cage is looking for in a college...otherwise I'd say something like "You know, Chicago is just over an hour away..."
 
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On the flipside, it's where rich, elitist people shut out the lesser folk, and call the cops on suspicious hoopties that get lost delivering pizza.

It's all about perception... :-/

Wait a minute! Some negative recruiter put this in his lexicon? Are you all for real?

It was nice that in a round-about way a group of you could put together a cross-cultural representation of the concept. But;

A) The reporter in a tweet said, "which he calls "like a gated community". . . " I used double ellipses, to show the only words she even said he used were four.

B) The fact that seventy percent of America has a negative opinion of gated communities; and sixty percent of America will never see the inside of one.

C) I just mentioned the resentment some that don't value or have the ability to compile vast amount of money have for those that do, in another thread. Most kids, (far from all) that are going to play college football don't come from an environment that has copious amounts of money, let alone enough to invest in gated communities to keep others out. In fact, they are more likely to come from the others.

This isn't an anti-IE rant, or anything against a single user here. But come on guys! What do you think people do from State U to keep ND from establishing absolute dominance in the college football world? Call it negative recruiting if you want. But I remember when a parent of a kid I coached over thirty years ago, told another kid, a teammate of his kid, that he must not like girls if he went to the Jesuit all boys high school that he wanted to attend. (My old high school.) He was inferring that his desire to attend had some correlation to his sexual orientation. I asked this parent about whether he said that and when he admitted it I just laughed. He knew why. This guy had attended the other all guys high school!

It happens every day. And it is so easy when it just amplifies our already installed, personal prejudices. Every day!
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p>DT Daniel Cage previews OV to Notre Dame, which he calls "like a gated community" via <a href="https://twitter.com/DMBerk">@DMBerk</a> ($): <a href="http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM">http://t.co/NXIvhStuHM</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/428249928729501696">January 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Parents are with him, heading straight to Mizzou after visit. Elston said "gated community" not Cage. He's likes that idea (not into partying) but doesn't want to be trapped. Wants to leanr more about ND. Dad wants him to get out of comfort zone and Cincy. All schools still in play, will decide on NSD.
 
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