Silly Season '13 (Coaching Changes)

[Polish Leppy 22]

I somewhat agree with what you're saying. Look at the teams he's beaten over the past 3 years though. There's not a whole lot there. He is the coach I didn't want at PSU though. He's pretty good, but the jury is still out as to how good. Luckily for him PSU's schedule is pretty soft.

Look at the players and resources he's had at VANDERBILT in the SEC. It'd be comparable to Indiana sporting a 9-3 record in the Big 10. I'm not saying he's going to make PSU a top 10 program or be there for 20 years and have a statue someday, but the timing is perfect both for him and PSU. And given the coaches available this year, he's the right guy at the right time in Happy Valley.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Vandy's schedules 2011-13

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...RCcID_0HvMm5o-3Tw&sig2=-n6dSHiMVSTK3gsYvmU0yQ

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct..._kjhnRAQak7UVuI4w&sig2=uqXdLqABT74L0KkVEbh1dA

 

[Irish#1]

Kiffin has destroyed every team he has been on. I hope Bama becomes his next victim.

You got your wish!

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Look at the players and resources he's had at VANDERBILT in the SEC. It'd be comparable to Indiana sporting a 9-3 record in the Big 10. I'm not saying he's going to make PSU a top 10 program or be there for 20 years and have a statue someday, but the timing is perfect both for him and PSU. And given the coaches available this year, he's the right guy at the right time in Happy Valley.

I was surprised when this really started coming together the last few days, I really thought as hot as this guy was he could do better than State Penn but when you look back objectively, its the best job out there right now, its clearly a step up from Vandy and its been proven that it can lead to the NFL. I don't see how he can pass it up at this point, one down year at Vandy and he's back to being an average coach. Have to strike while the iron is hot....I think he has to take this job now, he would be crazy not to.

Now I still hope he F's it up royally and State Penn sucks for the next 20 years........

 

[irishog77]

I think Vandy's 9 wins came against teams that combined for 34 wins. Haven't been able to verify that, but that's atrocious, especially when you consider Georgia and Houston combined for 12-14 of those 34 wins. So beyond Georgia and Houston, he basically beat 2,3 win teams.

He should be able to do the same, for the most part at psu-- their schedule is pretty gross too. Although, you'd think the scholarship restrictions alone maybe cause him to lose 1 game a year. And no bowl game for a couple years. So psu's looking at what, 6-8 wins per over the next 2 years? Mayyybe 9?

 

[woolybug25]

Look at the players and resources he's had at VANDERBILT in the SEC. It'd be comparable to Indiana sporting a 9-3 record in the Big 10. I'm not saying he's going to make PSU a top 10 program or be there for 20 years and have a statue someday, but the timing is perfect both for him and PSU. And given the coaches available this year, he's the right guy at the right time in Happy Valley.

Totally disagree. IU isn't in the south and they play more than 3 good teams a year. Franklin has made his living on beating terrible teams. They consistently lost to every quality opponent on their schedule every year. If I remember correctly, Franklin only beat one ranked team in his entire tenure. It was Georgia and Franklin cried in the press conference.

His personality, coaching style and tactics are all terrible fits for the culture of Penn State. I believe that he will fail.

 

[Bluto]

Kiffin's O at Bama is going to destroy people.

 

[RyCo1983]

Totally disagree. IU isn't in the south and they play more than 3 good teams a year. Franklin has made his living on beating terrible teams. They consistently lost to every quality opponent on their schedule every year. If I remember correctly, Franklin only beat one ranked team in his entire tenure. It was Georgia and Franklin cried in the press conference.

His personality, coaching style and tactics are all terrible fits for the culture of Penn State. I believe that he will fail.

I also believe that he will not be very successful. But if he is, he'll only be there 3 seasons at the most. He's clearly interested in the NFL.

 

[stlnd01]

Franklin's considered a good recruiter, right? It seems like half the battle for Penn State is defending their considerable home turf against recruiting incursions by Ohio State, us, Florida and Miami (which seem to compete for a fair share of NY/NJ kids). They should own the Northeast, as they're the only program worth a damn in ten states. If he can do that and reach into Maryland and Virginia for players and upgrade their talent, he'll be ahead of the game from the start.

 

[philipm31]

This will get Kiffin a new HC gig in a few years. He's becoming a young Pete Carroll. They're both like a terrible infection that won't go away.

Especially if you happen to be a Niners and Irish fan, eh Bob??

SMH.

On that note, Go Saints!! If the Saints and Niners win, the NFC title game would be at the Stick, right?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Sounds like Duane Akina is done at Texas. One of the best DB coaches in the country. I would take him in a minute.

 

[BGIF]

Sounds like Duane Akina is done at Texas. One of the best DB coaches in the country. I would take him in a minute.

Sent 20 DBs to the NFL but Charlie didn't want him. Out with the old.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Sent 20 DBs to the NFL but Charlie didn't want him. Out with the old.

Strong has a right to pick his staff but somehow I don't think the issues at Texas was due to Akina. If he still wants to coach somewhere some team will get a great one.

 

[tko]

I'm hoping Kelly can capitalize on all these coaching changes in order to have the greatest possible staff at ND. We have a pretty solid one as it is, but enhancing never hurts.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Penn State hires Vanderbilt's James Franklin as football coach.</p>— AP Top 25 (@AP_Top25) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/statuses/422008307079852032">January 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[tko]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: Penn State hires Vanderbilt's James Franklin as football coach.</p>— AP Top 25 (@AP_Top25) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/statuses/422008307079852032">January 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wonder how the PSU faithful feel about this?

 

[rtrn2glory]

Strong has a right to pick his staff but somehow I don't think the issues at Texas was due to Akina. If he still wants to coach somewhere some team will get a great one.

watch for urban to snag him up...his staff has a couple openings with Vrabel and Withers gone.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Wonder how the PSU faithful feel about this?

They are swooning. Some even think they upgraded.

 

[Irish#1]

They are swooning. Some even think they upgraded.

Only if he can navigate the minefield that is the alumni and boosters.

 

[rtrn2glory]

huge round of applause to his agent...he's making 1.5-2 million more than he's worth and that may be generous

 

[rtrn2glory]

from espn:

umass to hire mark whipple as new head coach....coached at umass from 1998-2003

 

[domerfreak]

huge round of applause to his agent...he's making 1.5-2 million more than he's worth and that may be generous

i thought the same thing. correct me if im wrong but theres still a matter of like 65 million in lawsuits to be paid to victims? good hire but not worth that kinda coin. imo

and who in the hell would have thought psu had 13 coaches before Paterno

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Totally disagree. IU isn't in the south and they play more than 3 good teams a year. Franklin has made his living on beating terrible teams. They consistently lost to every quality opponent on their schedule every year. If I remember correctly, Franklin only beat one ranked team in his entire tenure. It was Georgia and Franklin cried in the press conference.

His personality, coaching style and tactics are all terrible fits for the culture of Penn State. I believe that he will fail.

If he were at a legit school like Florida or even Ole Miss in the SEC with a tiny bit of history of success, that's one thing. I don't really care who Vandy played. It's freakin VANDY in the SEC and he did with Vandy what no coach has been able to do in a very long time.

He's also a top notch recruiter and from PA. It's def an upgrade for him, he's coming back home, and PSU is getting the best coach available. Again, not saying he'll have a statue in 20 years, but this is a good fit for both.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I think Vandy's 9 wins came against teams that combined for 34 wins. Haven't been able to verify that, but that's atrocious, especially when you consider Georgia and Houston combined for 12-14 of those 34 wins. So beyond Georgia and Houston, he basically beat 2,3 win teams.

He should be able to do the same, for the most part at psu-- their schedule is pretty gross too. Although, you'd think the scholarship restrictions alone maybe cause him to lose 1 game a year. And no bowl game for a couple years. So psu's looking at what, 6-8 wins per over the next 2 years? Mayyybe 9?

How about Cincinatti's tough schedule in the freakin Big East when BK was there? lol we didn't hear a peep about that when BK was hired.

 

[STLDomer]

“@footballscoop: We reported days ago that once Franklin to PSU was official that David Williams' primary external target would be Derek Mason. No change.”

Would love to see it happen

 

[irishog77]

How about Cincinatti's tough schedule in the freakin Big East when BK was there? lol we didn't hear a peep about that when BK was hired.

The teams Kelly beat at Cincinnati won more than 34 games...combined.

Also, Kelly already had a proven track record of winning...before he even took the Cincinnati job.

And a lot of ND fans were worried about Kelly's lack of big time coaching experience/exposure/results prior to ND. There were a ton of "peeps." Hell, there still are...4+ seasons into his regime.

But mainly, BK and JF aren't the same person or coach, they didn't/don't have the same background, and they took two completely different jobs, under different circumstances. You bringing up Brian Kelly is a straw man. Stick to arguing the merits of James Franklin.

 

[STLDomer]

Tom Herman rumored to be out, and headed to Texas

“@BFeldmanCBS: No truth to rumors about #OhioState OC Tom Herman leaving for #Texas.”

"@BFeldmanCBS: No truth to rumors about #OhioState OC Tom Herman leaving for #Texas.”

21 hours ago

“@footballscoop: Getting questions re: possibility of Tom Herman to UT… I do not believe that is happening. Sources at OSU do not believe that is happening”

17 mins ago

Current enough for ya??

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The teams Kelly beat at Cincinnati won more than 34 games...combined.

Also, Kelly already had a proven track record of winning...before he even took the Cincinnati job.

And a lot of ND fans were worried about Kelly's lack of big time coaching experience/exposure/results prior to ND. There were a ton of "peeps." Hell, there still are...4+ seasons into his regime.

But mainly, BK and JF aren't the same person or coach, they didn't/don't have the same background, and they took two completely different jobs, under different circumstances. You bringing up Brian Kelly is a straw man. Stick to arguing the merits of James Franklin.

Fine. James Franklin did at Vandy in the SEC with inferior talent and resources what no one else could do for decades. He changed them from a laughing stock to respectability. He has a ton of energy, is from PA, and is a top notch recruiter. Not saying he'll have a statue at PSU, but it's the best fit right now for both him and PSU.

 

[irishog77]

Fine. James Franklin did at Vandy in the SEC with inferior talent and resources what no one else could do for decades. He changed them from a laughing stock to respectability. He has a ton of energy, is from PA, and is a top notch recruiter. Not saying he'll have a statue at PSU, but it's the best fit right now for both him and PSU.

Yeah, I think Franklin is certainly better than just a warm body on the sideline. I think he's a good coach. Not sure, at all, if he's anywhere close to a great coach though.

We will see in the coming years, with what he does at psu and his next stop after that.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Yeah, I think Franklin is certainly better than just a warm body on the sideline. I think he's a good coach. Not sure, at all, if he's anywhere close to a great coach though.

We will see in the coming years, with what he does at psu and his next stop after that.

He better be good. The real effect of the sanctions are just now starting to hit. He will be lucky to win six games next season IMO.