'14 IA WR Allen Lazard (Iowa State Verbal)

FightingIrishLover7 · Nov 7, 2013

I truly do value the commitment he's making to his school (and family).

I just hope that this doesn't cause any regrets down the road. I want this kid to exceed and be a high round draft pick. Hopefully his lack of QB play and TV exposure will not hurt him in the long run.

Domina Nostra · Nov 7, 2013

ryno 24 said:
Oh logically it does not make any sense, but choosing a university is not just about logic. Maybe he thinks he is better and does not need to go to a high major school to be better. Maybe he wants to follow in Greenberry's footsteps. Who knows, but he can make his choice.

But Houston passes a bijillion times a game...

ACamp1900 · Nov 7, 2013

Domina Nostra said:
But Houston passes a bijillion times a game...

in either half...

pumpdog20 · Nov 7, 2013

BGIF said:
At ISU? Losing is part of the culture.
Before Chizik, McCarney was there for 12 years winning under 40% of his games. His predecessor Walden was there for 8 years while winning only 33% of his games.

Why would they change their Second Best Head Coach in almost 100 years?

Yes, they have a history of losing, but they ran out Dan McCartney who finally beat Iowa and started going to bowl games, because it became stale. Three years ago, they enjoyed the "so proud" speech after beating Nebraska. Two years ago, they enjoyed beating Ok St. Last year they tolerated getting beat by a Tulsa team in a bowl game who they beat earlier in the year. This year they're getting restless, but understand the situation. Another 1 win year next year, and the fans will want change.

Cpnd1 · Nov 13, 2013

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> related notes on five-star DT Matt Elam and four-star WR Allen Lazard. <a href="http://t.co/Zb2vNLTMXX">http://t.co/Zb2vNLTMXX</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/BGInews">@BGINews</a> (via <a href="https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247">@SWiltfong247</a>)</p>— Tom Loy (@TomLoy247) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/statuses/400765190976716800">November 13, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Pa Golden Tate Fan · Nov 13, 2013

Wiltfong thinks its a tight race for Lazard. Thinks it will be difficult for him to decommitt from Iowa State.

Rack Em · Nov 13, 2013

Pa Golden Tate Fan said:
Wiltfong thinks its a tight race for Lazard. Thinks it will be difficult for him to decommitt from Iowa State.

Irish8248 · Nov 13, 2013

Pa Golden Tate Fan said:
Wiltfong thinks its a tight race for Lazard. Thinks it will be difficult for him to decommitt from Iowa State.

he really went out on a limb for that one

CanadalovesND · Dec 1, 2013

Not sure if this would at all change Lazard's mind about his commitment, but Iowa State fired their OC today.

Iowa State Cyclones fire offensive coordinator Courtney Messingham, running backs coach Kenith Pope - ESPN

Irishnuke · Dec 1, 2013

CanadalovesND said:
Not sure if this would at all change Lazard's mind about his commitment, but Iowa State fired their OC today.

Iowa State Cyclones fire offensive coordinator Courtney Messingham, running backs coach Kenith Pope - ESPN

Can't hurt

Cackalacky · Dec 1, 2013

Do we still take him?

woolybug25 · Dec 1, 2013

Cackalacky said:
Do we still take him?

dwshade · Dec 1, 2013

I would imagine they are telling him they will go after a top notch OC who will throw the ball. Make him the focal point of their offense.

pumpdog20 · Dec 1, 2013

dwshade said:
I would imagine they are telling him they will go after a top notch OC who will throw the ball. Make him the focal point of their offense.

Promising anything to Ames, Iowa is LOL! I've been in that shit hole all day.

Luckylucci · Dec 3, 2013

Told Jake Brown at II that the OC getting fired at ISI has no affect on his decision. Solid to ISU and the only thing that would change that is Rhoads getting fired. He did get a visit from Elliot and another ND coach.

Irishnuke · Dec 3, 2013

Luckylucci said:
Told Jake Brown at II that the OC getting fired at ISI has no affect on his decision. Solid to ISU and the only thing that would change that is Rhoads getting fired. He did get a visit from Elliot and another ND coach.

This kid seems like he's going to ISU no matter who the coach is. He knows they're a total shit team and program with a shit coach and he still wants to go there. Good for him for sticking to his guns.

Irish#1 · Dec 3, 2013

Irishnuke said:
This kid seems like he's going to ISU no matter who the coach is. He knows they're a total shit team and program with a shit coach and he still wants to go there. Good for him for sticking to his guns.

Agree

Junkhead · Dec 3, 2013

Seems like a lost cause. Good luck.

Luckylucci · Dec 3, 2013

From the sounds of it there is an unbelievable amount of pressure on this kid to go to ISU and I can understand following through on that. Some people find enjoy out of making others happy, that may be him. I just hope this was the last "hey we want you at ND where do things stand" and we can move on.

pumpdog20 · Dec 3, 2013

A lot of hope of ISU going after Mangino for the OC spot.

IrishJayhawk · Dec 3, 2013

pumpdog20 said:
A lot of hope of ISU going after Mangino for the OC spot.

Interesting.

connor_in · Dec 11, 2013

So, is Lazard a complete lost cause for ND? I know some ND coaches were out to see hime a week or two ago, is BK planning on trying to visit? I understand that he seems really solid to ISU, but recruiting is recruiting...

ulukinatme · Dec 11, 2013

Time to move on I think. Rhodes isn't going anywhere, and I can't see Lazard leaving if Rhodes stays. Firing the OC probably only helped given the way they had no passing game to really speak of.

dublinirish · Dec 11, 2013

firing an OC and bringing in a new guy is a good sell for recruits because you can feed them the "it will be new to everybody so starting spots will be up for grabs" line

Emcee77 · Dec 11, 2013

ulukinatme said:
Time to move on I think. Rhodes isn't going anywhere, and I can't see Lazard leaving if Rhodes stays. Firing the OC probably only helped given the way they had no passing game to really speak of.

This. Lazard is under tremendous family and local pressure to go to ISU, he won't flip unless Rhoads gets fired, and Rhoads won't get fired unless something crazy happens like a DUI or a hazing scandal or some other totally unexpected misconduct or misfortune.

The staff will stay in touch just in case something does change, but I don't think anyone expects him to flip at this point.

GBdomer · Dec 16, 2013

per ISD ND likes its chances better then people think

ab2cmiller · Dec 16, 2013

GBdomer said:
per ISD ND likes its chances better then people think

Tranquill must be in his ear

GreenSox04 · Dec 16, 2013

i prefer lazard over everyone that we can possibly land at this point.

rocket66 · Dec 16, 2013

GreenSox04 said:
i prefer lazard over everyone that we can possibly land at this point.

No way. Give me Quick.

GreenSox04 · Dec 16, 2013

rocket66 said:
No way. Give me Quick.

love lazards size way too much, think it could be the last piece to the puzzle a year or two from now in this offense.

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