Anyone want to hold out BCS hopes with me?

irishfan

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We're 28 right now in the BCS, we've got to go 14 spots in 3 weeks. Very tough, but not impossible. Oregon State went 9-3 last year and finished in the Top 14. If we beat BYU and Stanford, I actually think we have any outside shot. Lots of teams with tough schedules left these last few weeks. This is all assuming we go 2-0 to end the year:

Teams we are guaranteed to jump IMO due to losses or our win vs. Stanford (4)
--#27 Georgia: We'll jump them at 9-3 as they'll be 8-4 best-case scenario
--#26 Duke: We'll jump them as even at 10-2 they'll lose to FSU in ACC Champ
--#25 Minnesota: They'll lose as they still ahave to play Wisky and MSU
--#9 Stanford: if we beat Stanford, IMO we'll be ahead of them if we're both 9-3
PAC-12 Teams that have to play each other still (should jump 2 at least IMO)
--#14 UCLA: plays #17 AZ State, #23 USC
--#17 AZ State: plays #14 UCLA
--#23 USC: plays #14 UCLA
--Oregon will play whoever emerges from PAC-12 South
SEC teams that have to play each other still (should jump 3 at least IMO)
--#8 Mizzou: plays #24 Ole Miss and #12 A&M and potentially Bama
--#12 A&M: plays #22 LSU, #8 Mizzou
--#22 LSU: plays #12 A&M
--#11 South Carolina: plays #7 Clemson and potentially Bama
--Bama will play either Mizzou or South Carolina in the SEC Champ
BIG 12 teams that have to play eachother still (should jump 1 at least)
--If Baylor beats OSU, the Oklahoma-OSU game in a couple weeks will drop the loser below us

IMO this is 10 teams that we seem to be guaranteed to jump due to attrition as long as we finish 9-3. There are spots to find 4 other teams to jump, whether its Lville/UCF/NIU/Fresno being upset along the way, Ohio St steamrolling Mich State, or things ending perfectly in either the SEC, Pac-12, or Big 12.

And no, please no responses that just say "wont happen" or "we're going to lose at least once before the year ends." This is an optimism thread.
 

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Sure, why not? Let's hold out hope. I always say it's no fun to be a fan if you can't be optimistic.
 

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Just Stop.

lol. Stanford's beatable if we play a clean game, and we'd finish ~18 at 9-3 most likely. Not exactly crazy to imagine a couple upsets would get us in.

I think we're going to lose to Stanford for the record, but as Emcee pointed out, why not have a little bit of optimism.
 
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I'm totally in as long as we play a clean, good game. Even if we don't win that's ok...I just don't want to get there and pull one of these "we show up and look foolish / get stomped" acts we've been doing. It's annoying when people are starting to think the Irish get there on reputation alone then get made fun of because of the way the game plays out. If they're going to pull that crap, I'll take the Sun Bowl or some mid to low tier bowl where at least the whole world isn't watching.
 

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And to the OP's optimism, I think I'd also be on board considering the defense should be much healthier and the continued development of the younger players. It would be a much different ND at that point then the one we're all down in the dumps on right now. If ND wins outs it would make 4 top 25 wins. This team is very capable of playing with and beating a lot of good teams, if healthy. Will be interesting to look back and reflect on this thread if ND is able to win out. I think a lot of our attitudes are different if that's the case.
 

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This team should be BCS competitive. Its been a maddening year. Lose to UM and Pitt, beat MSU, ASU and a decent USC team. It wouldn't shock me if ND loses to BYU then beats Stanford.
 

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Between the ‘the sky is falling crowd’ and the ‘things have never been better’ crowd I sometimes feel like a man without a country on this site.

Let's start our own country together.
 

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Nice break down. I think the SEC won't drop that much, haven't yet so why would they now. It is such a joke how back loaded SEC schedules are, then voters validate virtually no drop when #8 wins or loses to #12 for example. Then they end up with a bunch of 3 and 4 loss teams in the top 20 that haven't beaten anybody.

However, not playing a championship game helps us in this race. Highly rated teams will pick up a loss playing each other late. Stanford losing to USC is maddening. Really wanted them perched as high as possible next week.
 

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any chance to play in (and win) a BCS bowl is worth being optimistic about no matter how nrealistic the chance is.

it bothers me (as im sure it does you guys) that we have never won a BCS bowl game...and this is our last year to even play in one.
 

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We don't deserve to be in a BCS game. Where just not good and would get killed. I would cheer as loud as I can but my heart can't take another BCS blow out. I've already seen 4.
 

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Why not? As unrealistic as it is, being optimistic and rooting for this scenario would be way more enjoyable than rooting for a pinstripe bowl. I've brought this up a few times on other threads (before the Pitt loss) and haven't really gotten a straight answer, if this scenario played out perfectly could we end up playing NIU or Fresno? I know a loss to either would be more devastating then a blow out loss to a team like A&M or Mizz, but I think the only way we win a BCS bowl is against Fresno/NIU
 

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We don't deserve to be in a BCS game. Where just not good and would get killed. I would cheer as loud as I can but my heart can't take another BCS blow out. I've already seen 4.

1. 2005 Ohio State
2. 2006 LSU
3. 2012 Bama
4. ???

Are you counting FSU? That wasn't a blowout lol
 

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Orgeon State blew our doors off years ago also.
 

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1. 2005 Ohio State
2. 2006 LSU
3. 2012 Bama
4. ???

Are you counting FSU? That wasn't a blowout lol

2006 Fiesta Bowl against OSU (lsu was the '07 season). The Buckeyes beat us by two TD's. Not a blow out though, imo.

2001 Fiesta Bowl against Oregon State. Chad Johnson (ocho cinco) and TJ Houshmandzadeh were just way too much for us. They blew us out 41-9.
 
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