'14 FL WR Isaiah McKenzie ( Georgia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[Whiskeyjack]

It would be fantastic to see such a haul...

But then que the transfer rumors lol.

Daniels, C.Breezy, Prosise, Robinson, Onwualu, Fuller, Hunter, Brent, Holmes, McKenzie, Quick. That's a lot of depth at WR.

First-world problem.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Justin Brent
Corey Holmes
Isaiah McKenzie
Michiah Quick

...that'd be quite the WR haul.

No doubt about it.

 

[NDdomer2]

what happened to rutgers recruiting as rb?

not familiar with rutgers or Lexington, what is crime there compared to SB?

 

[CanadalovesND]

what happened to rutgers recruiting as rb?

not familiar with rutgers or Lexington, what is crime there compared to SB?

Rutgers gained two RB commitments (Jonathan Hilliman & Robert Martin) since McKenzie tweeted that Rutgers was recruiting him as a RB. I'm guessing the commitments plus the original one they had (Josh Hicks) made rutgers staff recruit him at another position.

 

[Irish#1]

As long as he takes care of the academics, he's ours to lose.

 

[Calabrese's People]

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[Luckylucci]

So this wasn't in the article but Ryan Bartow posted this on the BGI board. Friday afternoon McKenzie told Ryan that he was going to score a TD on his first touch of the game. First play, swing pass to McKenzie who takes it 80 yards to the house! What a great story, like Babe calling his shot.

Also, Loy was told that he has already taken his test and he just needs to get the scores back. Doesn't specify whether it was ACT or SAT.

 

[NDBoiler]

So this wasn't in the article but Ryan Bartow posted this on the BGI board. Friday afternoon McKenzie told Ryan that he was going to score a TD on his first touch of the game. First play, swing pass to McKenzie who takes it 80 yards to the house! What a great story, like Babe calling his shot.

Also, Loy was told that he has already taken his test and he just needs to get the scores back. Doesn't specify whether it was ACT or SAT.

An appropriate time for prayer starts now...

 

[koonja]

So this wasn't in the article but Ryan Bartow posted this on the BGI board. Friday afternoon McKenzie told Ryan that he was going to score a TD on his first touch of the game. First play, swing pass to McKenzie who takes it 80 yards to the house! What a great story, like Babe calling his shot.

Also, Loy was told that he has already taken his test and he just needs to get the scores back. Doesn't specify whether it was ACT or SAT.

It's a ****ing joke with technology today that it still takes ~ 4 weeks to get your scores back for you ACT (I did not take SAT, so I cannot speak on behalf of that timetable).

Whoever administers these tests are sand bagging it and doing the kids a disservice.

 

[rtrn2glory]

if he's already taken his test the latest he could have taken his ACT is September 21st, so he'd get results back approximately this saturday at the earliest

if he's taken the SAT the latest he could have taken his test is October 6, so he'd get results back November 4th if the SAT does the four week schedule.

my gut tells me that if he's not committed after this weekend then this thing of test results being an issue officially has legs to run on...we'll just have to wait and see

 

[pumpdog20]

It's a ****ing joke with technology today that it still takes ~ 4 weeks to get your scores back for you ACT (I did not take SAT, so I cannot speak on behalf of that timetable).

Whoever administers these tests are sand bagging it and doing the kids a disservice.

I say blame everyone from Iowa.

 

[Cackalacky]

It's a ****ing joke with technology today that it still takes ~ 4 weeks to get your scores back for you ACT (I did not take SAT, so I cannot speak on behalf of that timetable).

Whoever administers these tests are sand bagging it and doing the kids a disservice.

I am not for sure if the SAT or ACT is done this way, but when I took the FE exam, the passing scores are different for each version of the test and there are many metrics used to analyze responses for cheating or abnormally difficult/easy questions etc...so some questions may be thrown out and my test was weighed against the rest of my peers who took the same version to determine if I passed or not. It took 4 weeks for my results to come with a pass/fail answer and no score provided.

 

[Cackalacky]

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Does this mean you have your people on helping him get an appropriate score?

 

[TheTurningPoint]

If his academics are in order.. is everyone 100% sold we should take him?

 

[woolybug25]

If his academics are in order.. is everyone 100% sold we should take him?

Anybody that isn't needs to get their act together.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If his academics are in order.. is everyone 100% sold we should take him?

Yes. Explosive, loves ND, and likely to have a high floor (PR/ ST, at least). But with his small size and the difficulty we've had in getting production out of Z WRs, I wouldn't bet on him becoming a regular fixture in our offense.

 

[woolybug25]

Yes. Explosive, loves ND, and likely to have a high floor (PR/ ST, at least). But with his small size and the difficulty we've had in getting production out of Z WRs, I wouldn't bet on him becoming a regular fixture in our offense.

I see us using him like the Chargers use Woodhead and the Saints use Sproles.

 

[Luckylucci]

Anybody that isn't needs to get their act together.

Yep, no doubt about it. And yes to your second statement as well. When he earned his offer during his visit we worked him out coming out of the backfield. Made sure he could take handoffs plant his foot and go north/south as well as catching passes from an RB perspective not lined out wide.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I see us using him like the Chargers use Woodhead and the Saints use Sproles.

What's stopping us from using Carlisle like that now? His skillset is similar to McKenzie's, and he's got 2-3'' and 25 lbs on him.

 

[woolybug25]

What's stopping us from using Carlisle like that now? His skillset is similar to McKenzie's, and he's got 2-3'' and 25 lbs on him.

I'm not so sure that Carlisle is the same skillset as McKenzie. Carlisle is a true RB in my opinion. A guy that can slide off of the edge or run between the tackles. WAY closer to a 3down back than McKenzie.

That being said, guys like McKenzie disappear in a crowd (i.e. screen passes, crease runs, etc) and that is their advantage. The 2-3" and 25 pounds are a disadvantage in those types of plays. Guys like IMcKenzie are the change of pace player that opens up both the power running game and the pass. I don't believe that Amir has shown that he excels there. We don't have a guy like that, imo.

Watch replays of how Woodhead was used last night, if possible. I think you would see what I mean.

 

[Luckylucci]

I think it's Tommy's limitations or what they think aren't Tommy's strong points. Theo last year.

 

[woolybug25]

I would also add that we do have plays that McKenzie would be great at. For instance, that weird pitch pass play that we run with Carlisle. He is effective at it, but I think McKenzie would take that 5 every time before players even knew where he was.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Tommy's limitations dont have anything to do with the "slot" position. Its simply personnel. They dont have a Theo on the team this year. They have bigger slot guys, Prosise/Onwualu then move Davaris/TJ/CB around. If Davonte was still here, then that changes the position bc you can get something explosive out of that and someone that can work in and out of traffic. I personally think they can get Onwualu involved in the screen game. But then again ND isnt a great screen team yet, but kid is a mismatch for a LB or CB. Same with Prosise. Just get them in a lil space to work on a 1-on-1. Davonte is going to win that battle most times. Mckenzie could.

I think the problem with Amir, is that the RB position hasnt had consistency to the point where they can dedicate time to cross train him to the point he would make a difference. Id like to get him in space and not up the A-Gap, but theres a lot of athletes and only so many spots.

I do think Tommy limits to a point getting 2 RBs on the field. Say start Amir in the slot and GA3 in the backfield. So i do agree in that instance, but they didnt run a ton of 2 back sets until late in the year last year.

ND is finding a success in mismatches in the slot whether its a WR, or TE. Right now its not a position for explosive plays based off their personnel being inexperienced. Tommy has the skill set to excel in the screen game, but they just arent built as that kind of team right now.

 

[Luckylucci]

Misdirection and making the defense guess is one of the best ways to get the ball to your playmakers the ball quickly in space. It's exactly what most good spread teams do. Obviously Oregon being a prime example. In order for that to be effective they can't all be at the line of scrimmage and have to respect all phases of the offense. Not sure how you could say that defenses not respecting Tommys arm and ability to run don't make it substantially harder to effectively do that.

 

[Irish#1]

If his academics are in order.. is everyone 100% sold we should take him?

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

If his academics are in order.. is everyone 100% sold we should take him?

Anybody that isn't needs to get their act together.

I'm with this guy

 

[peoriairish]

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

 

[aubeirish]

I think we were counting on Davonte Neal to be the guy in slot, but it wasn't meant to be. Torrii Hunter might be a guy to watch for the future. Mckenzie would be awesome in there.

 

[dublinirish]

I think we were counting on Davonte Neal to be the guy in slot, but it wasn't meant to be. Torrii Hunter might be a guy to watch for the future. Mckenzie would be awesome in there.

nothing i have seen from BK/CM so far leads me to believe they are able to get production from anybody in the slot. Hoping next year we see something.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

nothing i have seen from BK/CM so far leads me to believe they are able to get production from anybody in the slot. Hoping next year we see something.

Wouldn't go that far. Less than stellar production sure. Some of the problem is just inexperience. CB has improved his game but not enough to the point where ND can move TJ to the slot on a consistent basis. Robinson is obviously young and figuring things out. Fuller seems like he could be a playmaker in the slot, but also has the ability to play on the outside bc he can get deep. I personally dont see him as a middle of the field guy yet. I am surprised Onwualu has played a ton in 6 games and not got 1 ball thrown his way, that just hurts with tendencies. Prosise and Onwualu are in their first year of playing the position so there naturally wasnt going to be a ton of production, but Prosise potential is through the ceiling and that showed in the Spring. BK has said ND has lost bc of a combination of little things.....in Prosise case it seems like its a few things here and there that he hasnt grasped/mastered to get consistent PT. Not ready to write the kid off by any means, but he does need to make a step forward next year. Onwualu, Hunter, Fuller, Quick, McKenzie could all be on the roster next fall, so he has a lot of quality competition there. I hope they can figure a way to get him on the field bc he is a kid I think that can really make a diff given consistent PT. I see him as the Offensive Ben Councell, where hes a damn good player, waited his time, put in the work, and then may just get passed up by a younger player who is just makes plays.


But anyways, McKenzie would fit in just fine on the roster at ND in my opinion. At worst he would be someone explosive to take over for TJ on Punt Return, and GA3 on kick return.