'13 FL RB Greg Bryant (R.I.P.)

[gkIrish]

If something does come of this, this is what I don't get.

If he is upset about playing time this year, more than likely he will get a good amount of touches next year if in fact he has more superior talent than the gentlemen ahead of him.

So he misses this year and plays next year but if he transfers then he misses this year AND next year before he can play again.

Suck up the one year rather than missing two seasons.

+100000000 makes absolutely no sense

 

[koonja]

 

[greyhammer90]

I thought we got a break from this bs during the season?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Here's the sense it makes:

- ND is hard
- ND is far away from home
- Your freshman year is not what you expected it to be
- the grass is always greener
- this is a business, there is no such thing as loyalty to your team
- someone will be more than willing to take you on

 

[NDWorld247]

Here's the sense it makes:

- ND is hard
- ND is far away from home
- Your freshman year is not what you expected it to be
- the grass is always greener
- someone will be more than willing to take you on

- you have a girlfriend back in Florida

 

[IrishLion]

- you have a girlfriend back in Florida

- you have a child in Arizona

 

[Whiskeyjack]

If something does come of this, this is what I don't get.

If he is upset about playing time this year, more than likely he will get a good amount of touches next year if in fact he has more superior talent than the gentlemen ahead of him.

So he misses this year and plays next year but if he transfers then he misses this year AND next year before he can play again.

Suck up the one year rather than missing two seasons.

A few points:

1. We return all of our RBs next year, and each one is settling into a niche and showing promise, so maybe Bryant isn't confident in his ability to break-out sooner than later;
2. he'll likely take a medical this year, meaning he'll still have 5 years to play 4 seasons; and
3. the NCAA has been liberally waiving the transfer penalty.

Under those conditions, a transfer would make sense.

 

[GoIrish41]

If someone had bad news on Bryant, they wouldn't be waiting to tell it. This is garbage.

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Well that's what happens when you hype someone up that much.</p>— Nicky Baratti (@NickyBaratti) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickyBaratti/statuses/387692205176930305">October 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Ironman8]

Welp.

 

[greyhammer90]

If someone had bad news on Bryant, they wouldn't be waiting to tell it. This is garbage.

Care to make a vbet?

 

[NDWorld247]

If this is true, no way it doesn't break until Thursday.

 

[ACamp1900]

You can't sign 5-6 five stars in two years and let 3-4 of them transfer within a year and expect everything will just work out fine for the program... at a certain point you have to sign them and keep them.

 

[Domina Nostra]

A few points:

1. We return all of our RBs next year, and each one is settling into a niche and showing promise, so maybe Bryant isn't confident in his ability to break-out sooner than later;
2. he'll likely take a medical this year, meaning he'll still have 5 years to play 4 seasons; and
3. the NCAA has been liberally waiving the transfer penalty.

Under those conditions, a transfer would make sense.

To be honest, I still have very little doubt that Bryant will be better than all those guys, with the possible exception of Folston. I think this is a classic case of Kelly rightfully trying to win games now, despite the relative potential of the RBs. If he transfers its a big, big blow to the depth chart.

 

[arrowryan]

This is why we can't have nice things.

So in 2015, we have Carisle and Folston. Both of which are finesse backs and Carlisle is about as fragile as they come. Lol

 

[koonja]

To be honest, I still have very little doubt that Bryant will be better than all those guys, with the possible exception of Folston. I think this is a classic case of Kelly rightfully trying to win games now, despite the relative potential of the RBs. If he transfers its a big, big blow to the depth chart.

I'm with you, but I think BK is too slow to trust. This year I didn't see the reason to not give Greg more carries. His RS was already burnt and no one was running away with the RB job.

It's all about risk reward. If you can keep elite athletes happy and engaged when they're young and it doesn't sacrifice a game, why not.

There was no reason Folston didn't play in the ASU game, either.

 

[Luckylucci]

Here's the sense it makes:

- ND is hard
- ND is far away from home
- Your freshman year is not what you expected it to be
- the grass is always greener
- this is a business, there is no such thing as loyalty to your team
- someone will be more than willing to take you on

No matter who the coach is, these two will always be a cause for 4 and 5 star kids to transfer from ND when they aren't getting what they feel is the right amount of playing time.

 

[IrishLion]

Kelly has lost control of his roster.

 

[military_irish]

A few points:

1. We return all of our RBs next year, and each one is settling into a niche and showing promise, so maybe Bryant isn't confident in his ability to break-out sooner than later;
2. he'll likely take a medical this year, meaning he'll still have 5 years to play 4 seasons; and
3. the NCAA has been liberally waiving the transfer penalty.

Under those conditions, a transfer would make sense .

Which makes no sense to me but if he were able to work out a waiver then yes I can understand his reasoning although it would be a swift kick to the nuts and bolts.

But then again transfers happen every year from every team. ND lost Neal and Ferguson this year and people were wondering what would happen with the receiving core. Well Robinson and Fuller have filled in quite nicely.

So although I may fall into a minor football depression if he were to leave, can't dwell on a player that would no longer be on the team when the players on the team would need the fans support.

But on a side note I won't believe these rumors until someone from ND announces it or Bryant himself. Until then I hope Bryant a speedy recovery from his injury.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

To be honest, I still have very little doubt that Bryant will be better than all those guys, with the possible exception of Folston.

I don't disagree.

I think this is a classic case of Kelly rightfully trying to win games now, despite the relative potential of the RBs.

That's life as the HC at ND. You have to win immediately against a front-loaded schedule. If we played the usual warm-up games against cupcakes, the young RBs could have gotten a lot more touches, and maybe our defense doesn't sh!t the bed against a mediocre Michigan team.

Still, Folston has won a lot more touches than Bryant. Hopefully we end up keeping the better RB. Seems like we were bound to lose one of them.

 

[greyhammer90]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Well that's what happens when you hype someone up that much.</p>— Nicky Baratti (@NickyBaratti) <a href="https://twitter.com/NickyBaratti/statuses/387692205176930305">October 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[jerboski]

Ouch, was really hoping Greg would stick it out. Ugh we have the worst luck

 

[Luckylucci]

I don't disagree.



That's life as the HC at ND. You have to win immediately against a front-loaded schedule. If we played the usual warm-up games against cupcakes, the young RBs could have gotten a lot more touches, and maybe our defense doesn't sh!t the bed against a mediocre Michigan team.

Still, Folston has won a lot more touches than Bryant. Hopefully we end up keeping the better RB. Seems like we were bound to lose one of them.

^This. From a competition standpoint I love it but its very easy to get freshman minutes right away when you have 30-40pt. leads against Nobody University.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm with you. This year I didn't see the reason to not give Greg more carries. His RS was already burnt and no one was running away with the RB job.

I think BK is too slow to trust. There was no reason Folston didn't play in the ASU game, either.

That's life as the HC at ND. You have to win immediately against a front-loaded schedule. If we played the usual warm-up games against cupcakes, the young RBs could have gotten a lot more touches, and maybe our defense doesn't sh!t the bed against a mediocre Michigan team.

Still, Folston has won a lot more touches than Bryant. Hopefully we end up keeping the better RB. Seems like we were bound to lose one of them.

Good point on the cupcakes.

In addition, I think Crist being mediocre, Rees being mediocre, and then Golson flunking out has required Kelly to find very ugly ways to win that have very little room for error. Because of this he is not getting a lot of garbage time to keep the kids happy and let them make mistakes.

He has absolutely no alternative. Like most fans of traditional powers, we have no patience whatsoever for rebuilding and would cricfy him for rebuilding if it meant more loses. He has to play it all extremely close to the vest, and that means benching kids who whiff on blocks and screw up the play calls.

 

[irishff1014]

You can't sign 5-6 five stars in two years and let 3-4 of them transfer within a year and expect everything will just work out fine for the program... at a certain point you have to sign them and keep them.

Spot on Acamp!

 

[NDinL.A.]

There was no reason Folston didn't play in the ASU game, either.

I wanted him in as well, but there absolutely was a reason not to play him, and if you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.

ASU was bringing people NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME, and bringing those blitzes from everywhere. If he's been having trouble picking up blitzes in practice, what's he going to do in front of 70,000 people in prime-time with all those exotic blitzes and Tommy changes protections at the last minute???

And this was a game that could make or break the season. It was an absolute must-win. One bad play could change your season. No way do you put a kid in there in that situation that you didn't feel was ready.

If he fails to play more the rest of the year, I'll be down with you. But against ASU? I was OK with it...

 

[Emcee77]

It'll all be alright if it convinces Scarborough to jump on board ... right? right guys?

 

[irishff1014]

It'll all be alright if it convinces Scarborough to jump on board ... right? right guys?

Yea ok don't hold your breath on that.

 

[ACamp1900]

We ARE all still assuming though...

 

[GBdomer]

I thought he was one hell of a running back but I always wonder why the big 3 passed on him then South Carolina chose David Williams over him. Then he never seemed to get in the rotation at ND. Gonna miss him if true