'14 VA LB Greer Martini (Notre Dame Signee)

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This kid's prototype MBL size does not amount to success. He does not have the football instincts or speed to compete against SEC, ACC athletes. For Martini, football will be a spectator sport. He will join Anthony Rabasa on the Notre Dame bench.

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I'd love to know how in your expert opinion you came to the conclusion that he does not have "football instincts" from watching a couple minutes of highlights... sophomore/junior highlights, mind you, that are filled with more defensive TDs and interceptions from being in the right place at the right time than any ILB film I've seen on this board ever.
 

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I'd love to know how in your expert opinion you came to the conclusion that he does not have "football instincts" from watching a couple minutes of highlights... sophomore/junior highlights, mind you, that are filled with more defensive TDs and interceptions from being in the right place at the right time than any ILB film I've seen on this board ever.

^this.
 

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This kid's prototype MBL size does not amount to success. He does not have the football instincts or speed to compete against SEC, ACC athletes. For Martini, football will be a spectator sport. He will join Anthony Rabasa on the Notre Dame bench.

Wowzers! I really respect your posts, but this post makes my Rees game day posts seem mild.

I think we all want a speedy thumper at MLB but I until ND finds a1600 SAT ILB I feel they treat the position like the St. Louis cardinals treat short stop. Get by on the cheap and make up in other spots.

I do have high hopes for Greer and see him as a Dan Fox typeaguy...
 

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This kid's prototype MBL size does not amount to success. He does not have the football instincts or speed to compete against SEC, ACC athletes. For Martini, football will be a spectator sport. He will join Anthony Rabasa on the Notre Dame bench.

Yikes. Easy man. People were saying the same things about Keuchly before he played a down. They remind me a lot of each other. Let the coaches coach him up and see what he becomes before entirely writing him off.

I'm expecting something in between Rabasa and Keuchly
 
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From an article updated in August 2013.

Football coaches know exactly what characteristics are vital for a great linebacker. They want a passionate, dedicated and consistent leader who makes everyone better while making the smart, big-time plays all over the field. They also want a coach on the gridiron.
Woodberry Forest coach Clinton Alexander has his next star 'backer who does it all, and he knew it from the first day he saw him.
It was four summers ago when Woodberry Forest was hosting a special event on campus, and Alexander got his first glimpse of Greer Martini, now a rising-junior and all-state linebacker.
“Greer came to one of our summer sports camps,” Alexander said. “It was a three-week, all-sports camp. He was good at everything. He was dominating. All the intangibles that those young kids don't start to think about at that age, he already had.”
The camp consisted of playing flag football, basketball, softball, floor hockey, soccer and lacrosse. Martini didn't hold back, going all out.
“He had his team as the No. 1 seed and No. 2 seed [in each sport],” Alexander said.
Martini wouldn't settle for less.
“I just always grew up playing sports competitively,” Martini said. “As a young kid, coaches always encouraged me to be a leader on the field.”
The kid shined at the camp, but he was not able to make the final week and tournament phase of the competition due to going to school year-round. Without Martini, it wasn't pretty.
“They just got crushed,” Alexander said. “That is when I [thought], ‘wow.’ I told my wife that if he came here, he would be the best inside linebacker we've ever had.”
He is well on his way, turning into an all-state player for the Tigers. Martini lead Woodberry Forest to an 8-2 record last season, alongside four-star linebacker and Stanford commit Doug Randolph.

“He is really young, so he has a lot of upside,” Alexander said. “He is 6-3, 225 pounds, but he doesn't have any facial hair yet. He is going to be running well and moving well at 240 pounds. He has great flexibility and a lot of range.”
Martini played Will Linebacker this past season, where his competitive nature led him to a stunning season. He recorded five fumble recoveries (two for touchdowns), three interceptions and 74 tackles with six for loss.
“That is hard to do for an outside linebacker,” Alexander said of his player's impact plays. “He is very intelligent the way he diagnoses plays.”
Colleges have noticed.

With a 4.0 GPA, the North Carolina native had several scholarship offers, including Notre Dame, Maryland and N.C. State. He committed to the Fighting Irish in early July to conclude the recruiting process early.
C.J. Prosise, a three-star recruit and ex-Woodberry player who plays at Notre Dame, helped in the recruiting process. Two visits to the school also didn't hurt.
“It was the perfect fit for me,” Martini said. “The combination of football history, a great football program and academics was great for me. I fell in love when I went to Notre Dame. I couldn't be happier with my decision.
“I think C.J. had a big part in it. Playing with him for two years, he was such a vocal leader and great player. He had an all-around game. He was always talking about how great Notre Dame was. He had a great impact on me as a player.”
Martini, who lives near Raleigh, admits that it was tough to say no to the Wolfpack.
“It was hard, because N.C. State is five minutes away from my house,” he said. “Mom wanted me to stay close. That was hard. I felt that Notre Dame was the better fit for me.
Alexander wants him to get even better before making it to the next level.
“I want to see him be more powerful at the point of impact, more negative plays in terms of tackles behind the line of scrimmage, no more forward progress,” Alexander said. “I think that is more strength and speed, weight and power and becoming a true sideline-to-sideline linebacker. He is already doing all the right things. He is constantly working.
“The other part, now going from a linebacker to more of an [on-the-field] coach, is teaching him to see everything. It's my job to help him understand the whole picture.”
Alexander has no doubt that Martini, who does not have an offer from Virginia, will only improve and get bigger, stronger and faster.
“100 percent,” he said. “He has done everything he has ever been asked to do and does so much you don't ask him to do.”
Martini, who earned one of the 14 all-state honors that linebackers have received under Alexander in his eight-season tenure, hopes to build on his stellar sophomore season. The Tigers open on September 7th when they host Benedictine.
“I've got to improve every single day in practice,” Martini said. “I've just got to get better, stronger, faster, all those types of things. The main thing I'm going to try and do is help everyone around me.”
Alexander praised Martini's ability to relay messages to teammates, organize the squad and make sure the defensive game-plan is executed. It's safe to say that the coach wouldn't want any other prep 'backer in the nation leading his defense.
“Our style of defense, we want to let our linebackers make plays,” Alexander said. “He is probably the best pass defending linebacker we have ever had.”
As for his leadership and being essentially an on-field coach?
“He is sharp,” Alexander said. “He is going to be running the defense for me for the next two years. I feel like I have a genius upfront.”

I hope all this translates to the college level. If this was posted already I apologize.
 
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The most important thing about the article was who was talking. That Woodbury coach knows his stuff. He was right about Procise. He looks to be right about Randolph. He knows his players and where they fit. He knows a lot about their ceilings, too.
 
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The real question is why haven't we seen a '15 Woodberry stud pop up on the radar yet? Pipelines require moar recruits people.
 

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This kid's prototype MBL size does not amount to success. He does not have the football instincts or speed to compete against SEC, ACC athletes. For Martini, football will be a spectator sport. He will join Anthony Rabasa on the Notre Dame bench.

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My bad if that was harsh, it's just we would use that to boost up Greer in our minds (when I don't think we need to) and Bama fans would just shake their heads, much like a lesser program pointing to an ND offer and trumpeting they beat us out for a recruit in their press clippings on a guy that we stopped recruiting or didn't truly have a committable offer.

I remember Greer was sent a hand-written letter by Bama really early saying they were going to keep tabs on him and he was high on their early board, but I am sure they send those out to an awful lot of recruits, and certainly nothing more came of it.

Yeah, we do want to keep the record clear. We don't want any readers of this site to end up like this guy:

Notre Dame Lost Recruit Jamel James To Texas State? | The Big Lead

Haha.
 

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The Liberty Christian game is pretty good competition, so that is what I am basing this on...

My impression:

- He looks very strong, clearly a man among boys;
- He is not an explosive hitter, but the runner or blocker clearly stop when they make contact with him;
- He is certainly not a blazer, but he looks pretty athletic;
- He looks like he really understands what he is supposed to be doing as a MLB.

IMO, he looks like a good MLB prospect, like Carlo or Dan. He is a composite mid 3-star, #15 ILB. That looks about right. Good pick-up.
 
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The biggest downer in his highlights is that it looks like his athleticism has not noticeably improved. His straight line speed certainly looks a bit sub par. Just don't know how high of a ceiling he is going to have.
 

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The biggest downer in his highlights is that it looks like his athleticism has not noticeably improved. His straight line speed certainly looks a bit sub par. Just don't know how high of a ceiling he is going to have.
imo the most overlooked prospect in this class. I cant remember where I saw it but I read that martini was alabamas top LB target.
 

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I would add that Greer seems to have "it". On his junior highlights he is always picking up a fumble or picking off a pass, he is always near the football. Veyr hard to place a value on that ability, but it is real and some guys have it. His coach says he is the best football player he has ever coached, I am sure a lot of this has to do with what is going on above his shoulders and between his ears. Very excited about his future contributions.
 

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imo the most overlooked prospect in this class. I cant remember where I saw it but I read that martini was alabamas top LB target.

This is a persistent rumor that has been debunked. Alabama expressed some interest early on, but they didn't really pursue him and there's no evidence that he was ever high on their board.
 

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The biggest downer in his highlights is that it looks like his athleticism has not noticeably improved. His straight line speed certainly looks a bit sub par. Just don't know how high of a ceiling he is going to have.

He looks like a decent athlete running forward on offense and laterally on defense but he does look a little awkward in his pass drop. He'll improve his leg strength and hip mobility much more at the next level and that should increase his speed and improve his back pedal. It's tough to make drastic leg strength and speed gains in high school - a lot of these kids are still growing into their bodies. Hope he works out, we need him.
 

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imo the most overlooked prospect in this class. I cant remember where I saw it but I read that martini was alabamas top LB target.

Simply not true. Bama showed early interest and from some mail/contact he received where they stated he was at the "top of their board" people extrapolated it too literally to mean that he was their #1 LB target. Alabama has shown no recent interest and he does not have an offer from them.
 

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Really? I remember Farrell watched him play and might think he could out grow the position.
 

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Really? I remember Farrell watched him play and might think he could out grow the position.

I strongly doubt that. He's about 6'3" right now and I think 255 is about his cap with his frame. If he really just tried to get big and fat he could get north of that but I doubt he'd be powerful enough or productive on the line.
 

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6'3 255 seems hugeeeeee for a LB prospect. Especially one who is 17 years old.
 

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He is the composite 15th ranked ILB....


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6'3 255 seems hugeeeeee for a LB prospect. Especially one who is 17 years old.

He's not 255 right now.

He could be, but as Lax pointed out, that would be his cap weight for Martini as a ILB.

Right now, he's in the 235-240 range.
 

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6'3 255 seems hugeeeeee for a LB prospect. Especially one who is 17 years old.

Pretty sure he meant after a year or two in school. Te'o was 6'2 and weighed around 255. Grace is 6'3 and near 255, Shembo is 6'2 250. It's big, but that's a typical 3-4 LB for ya. Same applies at Alabama. Most range from 240-265.
 

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6'3 255 seems hugeeeeee for a LB prospect. Especially one who is 17 years old.

He's not 255 right now. He's like 230ish tops. I said that's the max I thought he could bulk up to and still be productive with his frame.

I see him as pretty similar to Jarrett Grace in terms of profile/projection. I don't know if he attacks the ball carrier and tackles as well as Grace but I think he has a similar athletic profile... and I think it fits what the staff envisions in terms of a large ILBs... so hopefully he ends up being a very productive player.
 
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