'14 IN OLB/S Drue Tranquill (Notre Dame Man)

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That guy has a writing style that is absolutely atrocious!! When speaking with the teenagers I work with I may talk like that, but to attempt to pawn that off as journalism is about as poor as it gets. On to the issue at hand now. He might have an argument if Kelly attempted to get a signed player to switch. But if a player can back out at any time then nothing is really done. He also has only to do what our favorite recruit has done and tell them thanks but no thanks by flushing letters or breaking off all contact. If Dru talks, listens, or isn't sure then no integrity issue is at stake.

Now I'm done talking about this ignorant substandard journalist. Join the family Dru and help keep Notre Dame on the top and have meaningful games in your career.
 
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Don't we only go after verbal commits who initiate the first contact anyway? Should be arguing Drue's integrity if that's the case. But he won't do that because then big bad Ben would come across as a monster.
 
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His phone number and fax if anyone wants to give them a go:
phone, 461-8736; or fax 461-8648
 
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This is what I emailed him. I was steaming mad so I sent it while still ticked off.

"Are you really comparing a school that continued recruiting a player after he signed a NLI to a coach who offered a player after he committed elsewhere? Almost every coach in the country does that but not very many actively recruit a player after they sign a NLI. Notre Dame has lost many players to other schools very close to NSD and Kelly has never attacked those players publicly or really made any comments whatsoever. Ronald Darby and Deontay Greenbury are 2 that come to mind. Deontay was committed to ND on NSD and faxed his NLI to Houston instead. Kelly never said a thing about it. Darby ended up decommitting and signing with FSU within a few weeks of NSD. Kelly didn’t comment on that one. I believe his response at the NSD presser was he was excited about the players that did fax their NLI and wanted to be at ND. However, Eddie Vanderdoes did fax his NLI to ND and was committed for about 4 months before he decided he didn’t want to go to ND anymore and wanted to go to UCLA. Fine but don’t expect to not pay any consequences. If he had enrolled at ND, he would have had to sit a year if he transferred so why should he not have to do that after signing his NLI? Notre Dame offered a player who has not signed a thing so how is that really poaching and how is it any different than what every other coach in America does? The FSU coaches were not too happy about the player that signed his NLI and then changed his mind. Why aren’t you writing stories about that one? It happened before the Vanderdoes situation. And FSU took a player from us just 2 years ago, Ronald Darby. Kelly offering a player committed to another school is certainly nowhere close to the same thing as the Eddie Vanderdoes situation and to imply that it resembles that situation even slightly is shoddy journalism. That is all."

It's a little long. I kept thinking of more stuff to write.
 
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IrishFaninTX said:
This is what I emailed him. I was steaming mad so I sent it while still ticked off.

"Are you really comparing a school that continued recruiting a player after he signed a NLI to a coach who offered a player after he committed elsewhere? Almost every coach in the country does that but not very many actively recruit a player after they sign a NLI. Notre Dame has lost many players to other schools very close to NSD and Kelly has never attacked those players publicly or really made any comments whatsoever. Ronald Darby and Deontay Greenbury are 2 that come to mind. Deontay was committed to ND on NSD and faxed his NLI to Houston instead. Kelly never said a thing about it. Darby ended up decommitting and signing with FSU within a few weeks of NSD. Kelly didn’t comment on that one. I believe his response at the NSD presser was he was excited about the players that did fax their NLI and wanted to be at ND. However, Eddie Vanderdoes did fax his NLI to ND and was committed for about 4 months before he decided he didn’t want to go to ND anymore and wanted to go to UCLA. Fine but don’t expect to not pay any consequences. If he had enrolled at ND, he would have had to sit a year if he transferred so why should he not have to do that after signing his NLI? Notre Dame offered a player who has not signed a thing so how is that really poaching and how is it any different than what every other coach in America does? The FSU coaches were not too happy about the player that signed his NLI and then changed his mind. Why aren’t you writing stories about that one? It happened before the Vanderdoes situation. And FSU took a player from us just 2 years ago, Ronald Darby. Kelly offering a player committed to another school is certainly nowhere close to the same thing as the Eddie Vanderdoes situation and to imply that it resembles that situation even slightly is shoddy journalism. That is all."

It's a little long. I kept thinking of more stuff to write.
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That's about a fifth of the size of my email. I went paragraph by paragraph explaining why every single one was crap. And then at the end explained why he is a bad writer and has never amounted to anything as a journalist.

So... I guess mine was a bit overboard....
 
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You guys are way overreacting. This isn't worth writing a huge Essay over.
 
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IrishLax said:
I'm the same way. I typed up a big scathing email eviscerating not only his logic but his horrendous writing... and then decided it wasn't even worth it to send. I mean there is just so much idiocy in that article that you either have to be a blind hater or really ignorant/stupid about recruiting to buy anything being said. The entire article is basically an incoherent jumble of dribble.



In my email I didn't send, I dedicated a whole paragraph about how I felt bad for him because he was obviously going to amount to nothing in life if -as a journalist - he thought that was OK vocabulary to put in a published article.

Then I found out he's been writing for 25 years or something? Just.... wow.
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25 years!?! And he produced that??? I assumed he got his start at Bleacher Report.
 
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The latest from ISD seems pretty positive. Says he will come back to see how well he meshes with the players, enjoys campus, etc.
 
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AdmiralBackhand said:
The latest from ISD seems pretty positive. Says he will come back to see how well he meshes with the players, enjoys campus, etc.
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He will love the players, campus, etc and fit in really well at ND. From everything I've read, I think his decision will come down to two factors, with the first probably being a bigger factor than the second:

1. Playing time: He will see the field much sooner at Purdue and likely not have to redshirt as he would need to at ND. Will he be swayed by this or will he say f'it and work his butt off to see the field at ND?

2. Academics: Apparently Purdue has a good engineering program. How does it compare to ND? Anyone know?
 
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NDWorld247 said:
He will love the players, campus, etc and fit in really well at ND. From everything I've read, I think his decision will come down to two factors, with the first probably being a bigger factor than the second:

1. Playing time: He will see the field much sooner at Purdue and likely not have to redshirt as he would need to at ND. Will he be swayed by this or will he say f'it and work his butt off to see the field at ND?

2. Academics: Apparently Purdue has a good engineering program. How does it compare to ND? Anyone know?
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Purdue has a comparable if not better program. But it's near impossible to play football and engineer.... If not impossible
 
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Purdue has a comparable if not better program. But it's near impossible to play football and engineer.... If not impossible
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That's what I've heard from Lax's posts. As I said, I think playing time will ultimately be the biggest factor. Should be interesting to see if he chooses Purdue over ND.
 
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NDWorld247 said:
He will love the players, campus, etc and fit in really well at ND. From everything I've read, I think his decision will come down to two factors, with the first probably being a bigger factor than the second:

1. Playing time: He will see the field much sooner at Purdue and likely not have to redshirt as he would need to at ND. Will he be swayed by this or will he say f'it and work his butt off to see the field at ND?

2. Academics: Apparently Purdue has a good engineering program. How does it compare to ND? Anyone know?
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It's quite solid. The actual number-crunching engineers they produce are quite competent (like those from Penn State, Illinois, Michigan, etc.). I've heard from specific employers that they don't recruit Purdue relative to other Big Ten schools I just listed because their holistic skillset/leadership/writing skills/etc. doesn't tend to be as good... but that seems to be painting with a really broad brush. My firm has never hired someone from Purdue, but we probably would if they had a respectable Master's from somewhere. This is in contrast to a place like Ohio State where we once hired someone with a good GPA and recommendations from professors who turned out to be such an idiot that we will never, ever hire someone from that school again.

You probably get a better engineering specific education at Purdue relative to Notre Dame, but the overall educational experience is probably inferior. It isn't a large gap though as engineering is definitely not the strongest program at ND. With that being said, any football (or basketball) player that tries to do engineering is borderline crazy. I remember when Carleton Scott tried engineering... that lasted all of a semester I think. Couldn't make any group meetings or find study time and I think he had a 1.something GPA when he dropped it for A&L. There are simply not enough hours in the day to do both a revenue sport with all of its commitments and engineering. So considering that, Notre Dame is a good bet because of the other alternatives to engineering if he finds the workload too much. There are lots of athletes who do it... but I'm really struggling to think of a football/basketball player in my years there that made it all the way through.
 
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If this kid is serious about becoming an engineer major then he should stay at Purdue. Purdue, from what I've been told, has a top-10 (or at least top 15) engineering programs in the nation. Granted ND's overall degree value might be worth more. However, if this kid is serious about getting an education with a focus on engineering then I would not be surprised if he stayed put.
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He should also quit playing football, since most engineering students are already overworked without an extra 4 hour per day commitment.

EDIT: what Lax said.
 
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Engineering is overrated. Give me a coat hanger, two rubber bands, and some duct tape. I can fix dang near anything. When in a pinch, break out the liquid nails. There... a $200k education in a few short sentences.

As far as Tranquill... doesn't he have a lil bro as good or better than him?
 
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T Town Tommy said:
Engineering is overrated. Give me a coat hanger, two rubber bands, and some duct tape. I can fix dang near anything. When in a pinch, break out the liquid nails. There... a $200k education in a few short sentences.

As far as Tranquill... doesn't he have a lil bro as good or better than him?
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Ok, MacGyver...

Yes, his name is Justin. He's much smaller (5'11" vs. 6'2") and I think he's a WR recruit although 247 lists him as a safety. Not sure if he's as good or better. Based on the little I've heard of him, doesn't seem like a ND offer is in the cards. Who knows though.
 
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NDWorld247 said:
Ok, MacGyver...

Yes, his name is Justin. He's much smaller (5'11" vs. 6'2") and I think he's a WR recruit although 247 lists him as a safety. Not sure if he's as good or better. Based on the little I've heard of him, doesn't seem like a ND offer is in the cards. Who knows though.
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Thanks... and no offense to engineers.
I still think he flips in the end if the offer is still there.
 
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NDWorld247 said:
Ok, MacGyver...

Yes, his name is Justin. He's much smaller (5'11" vs. 6'2") and I think he's a WR recruit although 247 lists him as a safety. Not sure if he's as good or better. Based on the little I've heard of him, doesn't seem like a ND offer is in the cards. Who knows though.
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He might be smaller because he's younger but he's supposed to be a better athlete.
 
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