'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[no.1IrishFan]

If it's that simple, why do they keep stats for the other games?

So in September Denard Robinson could actually feel like a legitimate Heisman candidate.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If it's that simple, why do they keep stats for the other games?

I don't think you understand me. I was trying to make the point that in his sophomore year his stats in his losses were nowhere near as good as in his wins. So it wasn't like it was a breakdown somewhere else in the game. And it wasn't anyone else. So yes you do need stats for all of his game.

The problem with Tommy is if he is your number one guy, teams with really good, athletic defenses can plan for you drop more into coverage, disguise blitzes, and bust his ability to get the ball out. Don't you remember how a mediocre Wake Forest team almost beat ND by disguising coverages against ND? Tommy had no idea.

 

[NDohio]

I don't think you understand me. I was trying to make the point that in his sophomore year his stats in his losses were nowhere near as good as in his wins. So it wasn't like it was a breakdown somewhere else in the game. And it wasn't anyone else. So yes you do need stats for all of his game.

The problem with Tommy is if he is your number one guy, teams with really good, athletic defenses can plan for you drop more into coverage, disguise blitzes, and bust his ability to get the ball out. Don't you remember how a mediocre Wake Forest team almost beat ND by disguising coverages against ND? Tommy had no idea.

Are you saying Tommy does not read defenses as well as we are lead to believe?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Are you saying Tommy does not read defenses as well as we are lead to believe?

I am saying two years ago teams disguised their coverages and just sat back to pick off his passes. They rushed three, and blitzed a fourth to hurry them, and then he threw a bunch of fabulous picks. Further, he played very well against slower teams, the good teams hurt him. Literally. I felt so bad for him against SC for example ('11). I thought they were going to kill him.

 

[Emcee77]

The problem with Tommy is if he is your number one guy, teams with really good, athletic defenses can plan for you drop more into coverage, disguise blitzes, and bust his ability to get the ball out. Don't you remember how a mediocre Wake Forest team almost beat ND by disguising coverages against ND? Tommy had no idea.

I am saying two years ago teams disguised their coverages and just sat back to pick off his passes. They rushed three, and blitzed a fourth to hurry them, and then he threw a bunch of fabulous picks. Further, he played very well against slower teams, the good teams hurt him. Literally. I felt so bad for him against SC for example ('11). I thought they were going to kill him.

Right. Once teams figured out they could just sit back in coverage and let Tommy make mistakes, we were in big trouble. Tommy will be better able to read defenses and pick teams apart in 2013 than he was as a sophomore in 2011, of course ... but still, it worries me that Tommy not only can't beat you with his legs but he also doesn't have the arm to throw over top of the coverage and beat teams deep. That means teams can sit in relatively compact coverage with smaller chinks. Tommy can't keep defenses close to the line of scrimmage by threatening to run with it, because they know they'll catch him before he gets far, nor can he stretch the coverage by forcing teams to worry about deep balls. Unless we come up with some new tricks, Tommy's only play on third and long is trying to fit an intermediate-length pass into a tight hole, and that's a risky play.

BUT ... it seems to me that Kelly must know that and MUST be able to come up with some new tricks. For example, we know he is intrigued by the Chris Leak/Tim Tebow two-QB model, and this is the year to implement it full-force with Rees and Hendrix. Leak, like Rees, was a smart but weak-armed QB. Hendrix certainly isn't the athlete that Tebow was, but he's a hell of an athlete nonetheless. So that's one idea. Alternatively maybe we can be more effective on screens and draws or something, I don't know, but I'm hopeful the coaches can solve this problem somehow. They'll have to, or we are an 8-win team again.

 

[ndfi78]

Report: Brian Kelly Indicates Tommy Rees Will Be Notre Dame’s Starting QB For Upcoming Season | College Spun – Social. Local. Consumable. College Sports.

Tommy the starter, confirmed.

EDIT: Second link Kelly hints at naming Rees starting quarterback | Inside the Irish

 

[Emcee77]

I'm not going to read too much into that. That's just Kelly's way of saying, "I'm not gonna stress about Everett having to sit out a season because I've got a capable backup who has started 18 games." I don't think it means that if Hendrix or Zaire blow Kelly away in fall camp one of them couldn't win the starting job -- but Kelly doesn't seem to be counting on it.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Despite a report from the Grand Rapids Press, Brian Kelly did not name Tommy Rees his starting QB on Wednesday, according to Notre Dame.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/status/342656185658396673">June 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Bogtrotter07]

Somebody has to start as No. 1 on the depth chart heading into offseason conditioning, so this headline shouldn’t surprise people, nor should the timing. That said, expect Kelly to prepare all three arms with a package that could help the Irish win. For Rees, that’s a veteran signal caller that’s got a mastery of the offense. For Hendrix, it’s hopefully taking advantage of his size and power. An with Zaire, the Irish have a dangerous option trigger man who is also impressing both Kelly and offensive coordinator Chuck Martin with his grasp of the offense.

Kelly saying "[instead of Golson] what he's got is Rees," is a long way from naming Tommy a starter. This miscommunication is on the Grand Rapids reporter. As most of us know, when Kelly wants something said, he says it! LOL.

For me, I have changed my opinion. I want to see ND have a package for each quarterback, with Tommy being the glue that keeps it all together. Take that for you dastardly villains trying to game-plan against ND!

 

[NDdomer2]

Kelly saying "[instead of Golson] what he's got is Rees," is a long way from naming Tommy a starter. This miscommunication is on the Grand Rapids reporter. As most of us know, when Kelly wants something said, he says it! LOL.

For me, I have changed my opinion. I want to see ND have a package for each quarterback, with Tommy being the glue that keeps it all together. Take that for you dastardly villains trying to game-plan against ND!

I would rather be really good at one thing than ok at 3. I am not saying that doesn't mean one of the others aren't going to get playing time.

I just would rather practice be focused around named starter. give him the majority of the reps instead of a dead 1//3 1/3 1/3 split in practice.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Tommy is the "next man in" residence of Kate Upton's boobs. Well, co-"next man in", lol.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Here's the quote from BK, reported by @<a href="https://twitter.com/steve_kaminski">steve_kaminski</a>: "We have Tommy Rees, who is an established player, and he will be our starter."</p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnoldNBC) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnoldNBC/status/342676428317396992">June 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Brian Kelly/Tommy Rees statement not a misquote, by the way. The reporter sent me the audio. That's exactly what Kelly said. <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a></p>— Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/status/342675179769565185">June 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Emcee77]

Oh yeah, Keith has an updated article that contains Kelly's full quote. Kelly def named Tommy the starter.

Kelly hints at naming Rees starting quarterback | Inside the Irish

 

[mgriff]

Just got an update from my ESPN CFB app. Says Kelly has in fact named Tommy the starter. Notre Dame football: Brian Kelly names Tommy Rees starting quarterback - chicagotribune.com

It's so intense! I don't know how he could call it so early. I mean, Andrew has been in the system, you'd like to think that the kid would progress and make it a competition. He also has the mobility Kelly craves. It just makes no sense that it's over. Clarity, we need some.

 

[kmoose]

Congratulations, Tommy. As well as you have handled your situation, the last couple of years, I'm happy for you. Now go out there and kick some @ss.............. name-taking is optional!

 

[Ironman8]

Tommy should be named the starter. He's earned it. But I also hope this has a dual purpose in lighting a fire under Hendrix (and Zaire) to try and push for that spot as hard as possible.

 

[WestCoast]

So it all makes sense now. After Tommy found phone records of calls made to SB police on May 2, 2012, from Golson's cell phone, Tommy planted essays from college-paper.org in Golson's desk.

Checkmate Everett. Checkmate.

(The only missing piece of the puzzle is whether any of Carlo's people were involved. But no one knows anything and no one is talking.)

 

[IndyIrishFan1]

Go get'em, Tommy!

 

[gkIrish]

Tommy should be named the starter. He's earned it. But I also hope this has a dual purpose in lighting a fire under Hendrix (and Zaire) to try and push for that spot as hard as possible.

+1

Also, is it just me or does this type of important information always get revealed at random charity dinners or similar events and not through media interviews or whatnot? Not just our school, but across the nation.

 

[goldandblue]

So it all makes sense now. After Tommy found phone records of calls made to SB police on May 2, 2012, from Golson's cell phone, Tommy planted essays from college-paper.org in Golson's desk.

Checkmate Everett. Checkmate.

(The only missing piece of the puzzle is whether any of Carlo's people were involved. But no one knows anything and no one is talking.)

Mad Reps to you sir.. Hilarious

 

[rtrn2glory]

nothing would make me more happy than to see Tommy redeem himself in ann arbor under the lights....would forever deem him the "Wolverine Neuteror"

probably spelled that wrong if it's even an adjective.

 

[Irish YJ]

Happy for TR. Also happy that BK made a point in saying that he thinks MZ can contribute.

 

[alohagoirish]

Time for some of you to get a little realistic.

Tommy's last four starts or nearly complete games---

Against Stanford 2011---tommy went--6 for 13 for 60 yards 0 TD 1 INT & he was lifted
Against FSU-----2011--tommy went--16 for 27 for 160 yards--1 TD 2 Ints & he was lifted

Against Michigan 2012--tommy went 8 for 11 for 115 yards--0 TD--0 INT---We needed 6 turnovers to squeeze out a win.

Against BYU 2012---tommy went 7 for 16 for 117 yards--1 TD--1 INT---we needed an overtime & a superior defensive effort to squeeze out a win.


So in the last four games with big playing time, Tommy has gone in total--

37 for 67 for 452 yards 2 TDs and 4 INTs that's a QB rating of TOTAL CRAP!

Remember against TULSA in 2010 in tommy's first outing he went 33-54 for 337 yards 4 Tds and 3 INTs

Against Michigan in 2011 tommy's first START in 2011---tommy went 27 for 39 for 330 yards 3 Tds and 2 INTs'


Tommy Rees is an unusual case of regression---

Tommy played better in his first 6 games then he has in his last four by a wide margin.

Ever since the PITT game (2011) teams have figured Rees out---and those who expect that to change because he is a year older or because we have a good defense are living in FANTASYLAND IMHO!

We just cannot do much better then 8-5 with tommy going wire to wire. I think coach will do something to mix things up before we get into those first few games---if its going to be sink or swim with tommy then remember to bring a life preserver!!

 

[BGIF]

I would rather be really good at one thing than ok at 3. I am not saying that doesn't mean one of the others aren't going to get playing time.

I just would rather practice be focused around named starter. give him the majority of the reps instead of a dead 1//3 1/3 1/3 split in practice.

Exactly. ND has a new starting RB (to be determined), new starting receivers at WR AND TE ( to be determined), and a new OLine starters to integrate.

Everbody needs to be on the same page in the same play book not 3 different pages in 3 different books from the moment the play is called. And the moment the DE shifts a step inside, and the Safety moves into the box, they need to make their reads AS A TEAM, not 3 different ways.

Does Bryant now pick up the Blitzer for Tommy, lead Hendrix through the hole brushing, the LB aside, or become the primary fake so Zaire can free lance?

Three different packages tailored to 3 skillsets multiplied exponentially by variable WRs, TEs, RBs, and OLs, don't lend themselves to a cohesive team read and execution.

It's time to reduce the personnel to the core group, get them to working as a unit, and not as a pick up basketball game. When they think and act cohesively, the team can function seamlessly with a different QB, a different RB, a different LG.

IF someone further down on the depth chart displays superior performance be it C, RB, TE, OL, WR, or QB, Kelly and Company will take notice. IF that individual raises the level of TEAM play, they'll get PT.

It's not the best 11 athletes that make the best team. It the 11 that best execute together.

It's time that decision is made so it can be scrutinized in the crucible and tweaked as necessary to hone a seamless offense.

 

[EddytoNow]

Just got an update from my ESPN CFB app. Says Kelly has in fact named Tommy the starter. Notre Dame football: Brian Kelly names Tommy Rees starting quarterback - chicagotribune.com

It's so intense! I don't know how he could call it so early. I mean, Andrew has been in the system, you'd like to think that the kid would progress and make it a competition. He also has the mobility Kelly craves. It just makes no sense that it's over. Clarity, we need some.

Being named the starter by Coach Kelly is not necessarily a season-long vote-of-confidence. I remember Dayne Crist being named the starter. That lasted one half of the first game of the season. You are only the starter as long as you are producing and not turning the ball over. I hope Tommy is the season-long starter. That will mean he is producing on the field and the team is winning a lot of games. But don't be surprised to see Andrew or Malik behind center if Tommy hasn't corrected his high rate of turning the ball over.

 

[alohagoirish]

Time for some of you to get a little realistic.

Tommy's last four starts or nearly complete games---

Against Stanford 2011---tommy went--6 for 13 for 60 yards 0 TD 1 INT & he was lifted
Against FSU-----2011--tommy went--16 for 27 for 160 yards--1 TD 2 Ints & he was lifted

Against Michigan 2012--tommy went 8 for 11 for 115 yards--0 TD--0 INT---We needed 6 turnovers to squeeze out a win.

Against BYU 2012---tommy went 7 for 16 for 117 yards--1 TD--1 INT---we needed an overtime & a superior defensive effort to squeeze out a win.


So in the last four games with big playing time, Tommy has gone in total--

37 for 67 for 452 yards 2 TDs and 4 INTs that's a QB rating of TOTAL CRAP!

Remember against TULSA in 2010 in tommy's first outing he went 33-54 for 337 yards 4 Tds and 3 INTs

Against Michigan in 2011 tommy's first START in 2011---tommy went 27 for 39 for 330 yards 3 Tds and 2 INTs'


Tommy Rees is an unusual case of regression---

Tommy played better in his first 6 games then he has in his last four by a wide margin.

Ever since the PITT game (2011) teams have figured Rees out---and those who expect that to change because he is a year older or because we have a good defense are living in FANTASYLAND IMHO!

We just cannot do much better then 8-5 with tommy going wire to wire. I think coach will do something to mix things up before we get into those first few games---if its going to be sink or swim with tommy then remember to bring a life preserver!!

 

[ACamp1900]

Exactly. ND has a new starting RB (to be determined), new starting receivers at WR AND TE ( to be determined), and a new OLine starters to integrate.

Everbody needs to be on the same page in the same play book not 3 different pages in 3 different books from the moment the play is called. And the moment the DE shifts a step inside, and the Safety moves into the box, they need to make their reads AS A TEAM, not 3 different ways.

Does Bryant now pick up the Blitzer for Tommy, lead Hendrix through the hole brushing, the LB aside, or become the primary fake so Zaire can free lance?

Three different packages tailored to 3 skillsets multiplied exponentially by variable WRs, TEs, RBs, and OLs, don't lend themselves to a cohesive team read and execution.

It's time to reduce the personnel to the core group, get them to working as a unit, and not as a pick up basketball game. When they think and act cohesively, the team can function seamlessly with a different QB, a different RB, a different LG.

IF someone further down on the depth chart displays superior performance be it C, RB, TE, OL, WR, or QB, Kelly and Company will take notice. IF that individual raises the level of TEAM play, they'll get PT.

It's not the best 11 athletes that make the best team. It the 11 that best execute together.

It's time that decision is made so it can be scrutinized in the crucible and tweaked as necessary to hone a seamless offense.

This post is so depressing to read... especially the bold... not like I didn't know all of this already... but sometimes I just tell myself "I'm just a pessimistic a-hole and everything will be okay,"... but yeah when posts like this articluate my concerns... I become a sad panda.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>THIS JUST IN: Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly has named senior Tommy Rees the starting quarterback for the 2013 season.</p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/342678750938406912">June 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[PLACforever]

I'm onboard (for now)

Rooting for him all the way.



Now to the funny twits I mean tweets:
http://collegespun.com/big-east/notre-dame/twitter-reacts-to-tommy-rees-being-named-notre-dames-starter-and-its-ugly

 

[Luckylucci]

Time for some of you to get a little realistic.

Tommy's last four starts or nearly complete games---

Against Stanford 2011---tommy went--6 for 13 for 60 yards 0 TD 1 INT & he was lifted
Against FSU-----2011--tommy went--16 for 27 for 160 yards--1 TD 2 Ints & he was lifted

Against Michigan 2012--tommy went 8 for 11 for 115 yards--0 TD--0 INT---We needed 6 turnovers to squeeze out a win.

Against BYU 2012---tommy went 7 for 16 for 117 yards--1 TD--1 INT---we needed an overtime & a superior defensive effort to squeeze out a win.


So in the last four games with big playing time, Tommy has gone in total--

37 for 67 for 452 yards 2 TDs and 4 INTs that's a QB rating of TOTAL CRAP!

Remember against TULSA in 2010 in tommy's first outing he went 33-54 for 337 yards 4 Tds and 3 INTs

Against Michigan in 2011 tommy's first START in 2011---tommy went 27 for 39 for 330 yards 3 Tds and 2 INTs'


Tommy Rees is an unusual case of regression---

Tommy played better in his first 6 games then he has in his last four by a wide margin.

Ever since the PITT game (2011) teams have figured Rees out---and those who expect that to change because he is a year older or because we have a good defense are living in FANTASYLAND IMHO!

We just cannot do much better then 8-5 with tommy going wire to wire. I think coach will do something to mix things up before we get into those first few games---if its going to be sink or swim with tommy then remember to bring a life preserver!!

I'm at not a Tommy Rees homer by any stretch of the imagination but I feel compelled to point out that the first 4 teams you referenced have significantly better defenses than the last two. Michigan's defense last year was better than 2011 and comparing Tulsa to FSU, Stanford, BYU's defenses a little outrageous. Now has Tommy gotten better no, not in my eyes but has he gotten worse? I don't think so. He is very easy to scheme for.