OSU President Rips ND

[Whiskeyjack]

University Presidents are politicians. The description applies to all of them too haha

You think Fr. Jenkins is cut from the same cloth as Gee and Spanier?

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Just heard the comments on sportscenter straight from his mouth and I have to say, the man is an idiot.

Some of you guys are spot on, if he replaces the words "damn Catholics", with any other religion, save for Christianity, he is GONE!

Unacceptable.

 

[Buster Bluth]

You think Fr. Jenkins is cut from the same cloth as Gee and Spanier?

I guess I was referring to public schools.

 

[IrishLax]

Just heard the comments on sportscenter straight from his mouth and I have to say, the man is an idiot.

Some of you guys are spot on, if he replaces the words "damn Catholics", with any other religion, save for Christianity, he is GONE!

Unacceptable.

YUP. Just thought the same thing listening to the audio. Pathetic and unacceptable. He should be fired... the less than a handful of Catholic OSU grads I know are LIVID.

 

[phork]

That would make for awesome TShirts. "Holy on Sunday, Holy Hell every other day...."

 

[nlroma1o]

A few comparisons with skewed data (isn't all data skewed?). Looks like OSU could use some higher standards. All data from US News.

When applying to Ohio State University--Columbus-The application fee at Ohio State University--Columbus is $60. It is more selective, with an acceptance rate of 63.4 percent.

When applying to University of Maryland--College Park-It is more selective, with an acceptance rate of 44.7 percent and an early acceptance rate of 54.8 percent.

When applying to University of Notre Dame- with an acceptance rate of 24.3 percent and an early acceptance rate of 36.6 percent.

When applying to University of Alabama-It is more selective, with an acceptance rate of 43.5 percent.


Ohio's Hardest to Get In - College Rankings - College Prowler

Not to critisize your source or anything, but I would take those rankings with a grain of salt... My alma mater, Xavier, does not have an acceptance percentage of 70% lolz. Just doing the math is hillarious. I just received a news letter that mentioned X had over 11,000 applicants for this years class. Theres no way they accepted 7,700 kids for barely 1000 spots.... Doesnt add up to me... When i was there it was only 800 spots and roughtly the same amount of applicants... Take it FWIW

 

[ND NYC]

the only way to resolve this is to schedule a home and home.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Just a friendly bump of this article: OSU president expenses in the millions | www.daytondailynews.com

It alludes to Whiskey's comment about other schools like Michigan improving over the same time period while spending far less on it's president's lavish lifestyle.

Of note:

But the University of Texas at Austin and the University of Michigan do compare favorably to Ohio State in terms of academics, prestige and enrollment. In fact, both rank higher than OSU in the 2013 national university rankings of best colleges by U.S. News & World Report.
The presidents of UT-Austin and the University of Michigan appear to spend considerably less than Gee on entertainment and travel. Both, too, earn less in compensation.
Between 2007 and 2011, UT-Austin President Bill Powers spent $310,560 on travel, wining and dining and other entertainment on behalf of the university, records show. During a similar period, Gee’s travel bills alone totaled $1.1 million. Powers, who is midway through a $3 billion fundraising effort, makes $663,000 a year (compared to Gee’s $1.9 million), lives in his own house, has no car allowance and only flies first class if he has a doctor’s order. Powers does have access to state-owned planes.

At the University of Michigan, President Mary Sue Coleman’s travel and entertainment expenses from 2007 through 2010 totaled $410,235. Upkeep and utilities at the university-owned house runs an additional $100,000 a year and if Coleman takes someone to lunch or dinner, she pays the tab out of her own pocket, according to University of Michigan spokesman Rick Fitzgerald.
Coleman’s compensation package is $860,782 a year and includes housing and a car. Her employment contract does not call for first class airline tickets or private jets, as Gee’s does. In Michigan’s last endowment campaign she helped raise $3.2 billion — the most ever by a public university at that time.

There are signs that OSU isn’t keeping pace nationally on the size of its endowment. OSU slipped from 27th in the four years preceding Gee’s return to Columbus to 31st in 2010-11, according to the National Association of College and University Business Officers and the Commonfund Institute. The Big 10 universities Northwestern, Minnesota, and Michigan all ranked above Ohio State for the size of their endowment.

But Dale Butland of Innovation Ohio, a liberal think tank based in Columbus, said Ohio State’s trustees need to rein in Gee’s spending, which he called “breathtaking.”
“No one disputes that Gordon Gee is doing a good job as president. That’s presumably why he’s earning $2 million a year in salary and bonuses,” Butland said. “The question is whether his spending $7.7 million on food, drink, hotels and parties is excessive. After all, presidents at other public universities whose academic ratings are even higher than OSU’s raise as much or more money than Mr. Gee does — yet somehow manage to spend only a fraction of what he spends. I don’t expect Mr. Gee to live like a monk. I just don’t think he should be living like Donald Trump.”
Kevin Holtsberry of the Buckeye Institute, a Columbus-based conservative think tank, said there should be a higher level of scrutiny on discretionary spending at Ohio State, particularly in an economy where many people are struggling.

-E. Gordon Gee, Ohio State University, $1.9 million a year compensation, plus a car, house and access to charter jets. Travel, housing, entertainment spending 2007-mid-2012: $7.7 million

-Bill Powers, University of Texas at Austin, $663,000 a year in compensation, no car or house, access to state-owned aircraft. Travel and entertainment spending 2007 to 2011: $$310,360

-Mary Sue Coleman, University of Michigan, $860,782 a year in compensation, plus a car and house, flies commercial. Travel and entertainment spending 2007 to 2011: $410,235. Housing upkeep costs another $100,000 a year.

 

[irishog77]

I think most of us have heard this before, GITF, but thanks for bringing it back up. Unbelievable. Dude is a total fraud.

 

[Rack Em]

Great article, GITF.

I would like to see how OSU's academic performance stacks up against Michigan's or UT's during this period (trends in GPA, ACT/SAT scores, graduation rates, number of science grads, etc.). That could maybe justify his Playboy lifestyle if OSU is making large jumps academically.

Don't get me wrong, he's still a bow-tie-wearing buffoon.

 

[Fbolt]

A few comparisons with skewed data (isn't all data skewed?).

Not to critisize your source or anything, but I would take those rankings with a grain of salt... My alma mater, Xavier, does not have an acceptance percentage of 70% lolz. Just doing the math is hillarious. I just received a news letter that mentioned X had over 11,000 applicants for this years class. Theres no way they accepted 7,700 kids for barely 1000 spots.... Doesnt add up to me... When i was there it was only 800 spots and roughtly the same amount of applicants... Take it FWIW

I believed that I covered that.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Rick Pitino on Gee:

“He really doesn’t know how to tell jokes, he really doesn’t know how to get laughter because he has to denigrate others to get laughter,” Pitino said. “It’s a pompous attitude. … I have a major problem with him, not with Ohio State, and he’s a pompous *** for making those statements.”
When Meiners noted that Gee had apologized, Pitino wasn’t having it.
“He hasn’t called [Louisville school president] Dr. [James] Ramsey, and we don’t accept it until he calls Dr. Ramsey,” Pitino said. “Until he calls us, we don’t accept his apology.

He actually said his biggest beef was with the ND/catholic comments around the 2:40 mark

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[Cackalacky]

He didn't say anything about Christians.....

LOL exactly. Pentacostals, Southern Baptists and any other number of "Christian" groups and Catholics are about as similar as peanut butter and jelly.

 

[Cackalacky]

You serious, Clark?

Explain how that isn't offensive?!?!? Lax stated it perfectly. If you sub out "Catholic" and insert another religion, the media would have hung Gee by his underpants on a flag pole!

I can't be trusted because of my religion???? That's f-ing ridiculous!!! Gee should have been fired and Jenkins shouldn't have taken his phone call. Period.

Its not a big secret americans, particularly those down where I live, don't like catholics or their policies......But to a degree LAX is right......

The Last Acceptable Prejudice? | America Magazine

 

[T Town Tommy]

A little humor on this from Ky Sports Radio. Thought maybe the IE posters would enjoy the "Southern View."

Dear Dr. Gee,

Some comments you made regarding the University of Kentucky and our SEC brethren were brought to our attention today in a report from the Associated Press. According to a recording obtained by the AP, you said the Big Ten will never consider adding Kentucky because the conference values academic integrity. ”You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we’re doing,” you said. You did. You said that.

While I admire your commitment to academic achievement and understand the skepticism you have regarding the University of Kentucky’s academia, I encourage you to take any Big Ten invitation you may have, turn that sum-bitch sideways, and stick it straight up your bow tie-wearing ***. You got that, Gordo?

You see, down here in SEC country, we value things that you Big Tenners just can’t comprehend. We value excellence. We value seven consecutive BCS national championships. Seven. We value three of the last four Heisman trophy winners. We value paying for our tattoos, not bartering for ink with autographed jerseys and bowl rings. We value bowl eligibility. We value not tailgating in Iowa, Wisconsin and Nebraska. We value The Grove. We really, really, really value The Grove.

In the SEC, we value speed and athleticism on the football field. We value scoring more than 50 points in basketball. We value Senior Night, and not cutting down the nets when we lose. We value the Sweet 16, but strive to get past it. We value the first three rounds of the NFL draft, and the first pick in the NBA. We value SEC basketball games at Auburn. (We don’t really value basketball games at Auburn.)

We value the Tennessee Volunteers, the Georgia Bulldogs and Marshall Henderson’s drug problem. We value Alabama football, Kentucky basketball and Steve Spurrier being Steve Spurrier. We value the Vanderbilt Commodores, because they’re going pro in something other than sports. We value Arkansas and its volleyball program. We value motorcycles.

We value Diet Dr. Pepper. We value Golden Flake potato chips. We value Texas Pete hot sauce with a Sunkist chaser. We value Barry Booker, Dave Baker and pretending to know what the hell Jimmy Dykes is talking about. We value counting to 14 and knowing it’s more than 10. We value not calling ourselves Legends or Leaders. We value our youth. We don’t shower with them. We value Penn State Jokes.

We value the finest collection of women the world has ever seen. We value sundresses in the spring and summer. And in the fall. And in the winter. We value Purdue being full of dudes and Wisconsin being jealous. We value your corn, and make our bourbon with it.

We value being better than the Big 10. We value how much you value Christian Watford’s shot and the pass interference call in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. We value Jadeveon Clowney and the remains of Vincent Smith he left behind. We value Nick Saban’s deal with the devil and John Calipari’s approach to the one-and-done. We value Urban Meyer, circa 2008. We value excellence. I said that? I’ll say it again. We value excellence.

My point is, Dr. Gee, you can keep your Big Ten and its academic integrity. Us illiterate folk are doing just fine down here in the south.



Sincerely,

Big Blue Nation, on behalf of the SEC



P.S.

Good luck with those damn Catholics.

 

[ACamp1900]

I love how they are turning the Big 10 thing around on him... lol

 

[Rack Em]

A little humor on this from Ky Sports Radio. Thought maybe the IE posters would enjoy the "Southern View."

Dear Dr. Gee,

...

My point is, Dr. Gee, you can keep your Big Ten and its academic integrity. Us illiterate folk are doing just fine down here in the south.



Sincerely,

Big Blue Nation, on behalf of the SEC

Isn't this just making Gee's point and exacerbating the stereotype? Wouldn't you want to debunk his statements? Lacking "academic integrity" isn't something to brag about; that's something to be ashamed of.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

We value your corn, and make our bourbon with it.

And God bless you for it, Kentucky.

 

[Rack Em]

A little humor on this from Ky Sports Radio. Thought maybe the IE posters would enjoy the "Southern View."

We don't take kindly to the "Southern View" around these here parts. We value our book learning.

 

[T Town Tommy]

And God bless you for it, Kentucky.

That may be why our academics are lagging. Bourbon or books.... that IS the question.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Isn't this just making Gee's point and exacerbating the stereotype? Wouldn't you want to debunk his statements? Lacking "academic integrity" isn't something to brag about; that's something to be ashamed of.

Maybe Gee should look at his university's "academic integrity" issues before calling out others. If he was that worried about it he would not have hired Urban Meyer to coach his football team. Urban had more players make the police blotter than make the 2.0 GPA list while at Florida.

 

[Mr. Larson]

A little humor on this from Ky Sports Radio. Thought maybe the IE posters would enjoy the "Southern View."



P.S.

Good luck with those damn Catholics.

Do you share this view?

 

[T Town Tommy]

Do you share this view?

Not at all. We are not all racist bigots down here. I think it was a tongue in cheek remark by the guys over at KSR quoting what Gee had said.

 

[NDWorld247]

NDWorld’s 10 Things I Think I Think After Reading Big Blue Nation's Letter:

1. You value a lot of things…education is not one of them (save Vanderbilt).
2. You told Gordo where he could stick an invitation he may have, yet, said invitation does not exist because you lack academic integrity. Point, Gordo.
3. The B1G has more Heisman Trophy Winners than the SEC. And, not to defend O$U, but ND and O$U combined have more than the SEC.
4. You value a student-athlete’s drug problem? Stay Classy, SEC!
5. You value Kentucky Basketball and John Calipari’s approach to the one and done, which, ironically, is the epitome of what college athletics should NOT be about.
6. You value counting to 14 and knowing it’s more than 10…Zing! (No, really, that’s a good one).
7. You value counting (see #6), yet geography (see Texas, Missouri) escapes you.
8. You value Brazilian women or you think Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas have the ‘finest collection of women the world has ever seen’? I’m confused.
9. You value over-signing. I know you didn’t say this, but, don’t worry, we all make mistakes.
10. You, Big Blue Nation, value taking credit for the accomplishments of everyone in your conference. How SEC of you!

 

[nlroma1o]

I believed that I covered that.

Missed that post, my bad Bolt. Carry on than.

 

[Rack Em]

Maybe Gee should look at his university's "academic integrity" issues before calling out others. If he was that worried about it he would not have hired Urban Meyer to coach his football team. Urban had more players make the police blotter than make the 2.0 GPA list while at Florida.

Oh I agree with you 100%. I just felt the approach taken in that letter was counterproductive.

 

[Lou Holtz]

I think Pitino got it right by calling him ignorant and a pompous @$$

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Tommy's been nothing but class since he started posting here. Many of us are understandably on edge due to recent trolls, but let's not run him off unless he gives us cause.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Just a friendly bump of this article: OSU president expenses in the millions | www.daytondailynews.com

[QUOTE]There are signs that OSU isn’t keeping pace nationally on the size of its endowment. OSU slipped from 27th in the four years preceding Gee’s return to Columbus to 31st in 2010-11, according to the National Association of College and University Business Officers and the Commonfund Institute. The Big 10 universities Northwestern, Minnesota, and Michigan all ranked above Ohio State for the size of their endowment.

It alludes to Whiskey's comment about other schools like Michigan improving over the same time period while spending far less on it's president's lavish lifestyle.[/QUOTE]

Some context is needed. Ohio State is spending billions. I've already posted my response to this months ago, but here goes again:

Starting soon, redoing the entire north campus dorm community:

There is something like $2.2 billion in construction going on right now on campus. I don't even want to look up pictures of the remodeled buildings going on right now.

Gee is raising huge money to spend huge money. He's literally rebuilding the entire campus.

 

[Rack Em]

Tommy's been nothing but class since he started posting here. Many of us are understandably on edge due to recent trolls, but let's not run him off unless he gives us cause.

I think this is at least partly directed towards me. It wasn't my intention to run him off or be a jackass. I was just asking an honest question.

Just wanted to clear that up.