'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[Sureal]

I just got sick to my stomach.

 

[rtrn2glory]

I hope you stop posting.

let's just agree not to talk to each other....we don't like each other so just leave it at that...you've had enough red bars in your day so i'll refrain from beating a dead horse.

don't talk to me and I won't talk to you

 

[Woneone]

We can just not watch and save 50 hours on Saturdays this fall.

/half kidding

I get it to some extent, he did grow and show potential going into this year.

But, I mean, we won quite a few games last year in spite of his growing pains and play.

Why is it everyone is considering next year a lost season without him? Can our offense really regress much further without him compared to how it performed last year?

This sucks, it does, but why is everyone acting like it's a deathblow for next season? Hell, it hurts us more in 2014 than it does next season.

 

[magogian]

New rumor that he can reapply after the summer.

 

[NDbrbkny]

Everett is gone. Plagerism. Daniels is okay, though was part of original rumors.

is it really plagiarism? i heard residence life violation?

 

[TerryTate]

Plagiarism would fall under ResLife

 

[95NDAlumNM]

So what does DuLac say about this? Anybody?

 

[irishff1014]

The bad thing about lowering standards for football players is you get players that forget about being honest. We ha expound out lowering standards has cost us a lot of negative news int recruiting world. Golson is flat out stupid for trying to cheat. I don't hate him but this was stupid. Maybe it will take some thing like this to make him understand cheating gets no where's in life.

 

[Kanye West]

The bad thing about lowering standards for football players is you get players that forget about being honest. We ha expound out lowering standards has cost us a lot of negative news int recruiting world. Golson is flat out stupid for trying to cheat. I don't hate him but this was stupid. Maybe it will take some thing like this to make him understand cheating gets no where's in life.

So many people cheat in college that, honestly Golson was dumb in the way he cheated.

 

[yankeeND]

The incident whatever it may be with Golson is unfortunate. This seems like some kind of poetic final stand now for Tommy. He has been the one guy that has been constant over the last four years in terms of being all about the team. Rally around Tommy Boy for his Sr year and hope for the best. Remember he is who he is, but with the most extensive knowledge of the play book. I will be cheering every Saturday for the boys with my expectations for this team as high as ever! My thoughts and prayers will be with Everett hoping he gets everything straightened out. I understand it is hard to deal with these constant set backs but don't forget about all the other kids on the team doing things the right way. They deserve our support more than ever, with Tommy Rees leading the way.

 

[ThePiombino]

Golson statement:

Dear Notre Dame Community,

I have been informed by the University of Notre Dame that due to my poor academic judgment that I have been suspended from the University for the 2013 Fall Term.

I take full responsibility for my poor choices and will do all that is asked of me to regain the trust of my family, friends, teammates, coaches and the entire Notre Dame community.

I chose to attend Notre Dame because of its mission to develop me both on and off the football field.

My parents and the community I grew up in have instilled values in me that have and will continue to allow me to be successful in the future. There have been many lessons learned as I worked to become the starting quarterback at Notre Dame and each was a result of Coach Kelly's belief in me as an athlete and a person.

At this point, I understand how my integrity could be in question but I want to reassure my supporters that through this experience I will return a better student athlete as well as a better individual.

Lastly, I want to thank the University of Notre Dame for the opportunity already granted and also the opportunity going forth to regain my eligibility in the winter of 2014.

Thanks,
Everett Golson

 

[arrowryan]

Class act

 

[greyhammer90]

Class act

Except for the whole cheating thing.

I keed, I keed.

 

[ThePiombino]

Class act

Exactly what ND nation needed to hear right about now IMO.

 

[enrico514]

Golson statement:

respect!

 

[arrowryan]

Except for the whole cheating thing.

I keed, I keed.

If that's what actually happened

 

[yankeeND]

I hope he means every word in his statement. He will be missed this year but I will be overjoyed and welcoming with open arms should be return in 14'. Kids make mistakes as do all of us everyday. He could still end up being everything we hope for him and for now, that will have to do.

 

[CanadianIrishFan306]

Is there any chance of him playing football again or is he done?

 

[notredomer23]

Is there any chance of him playing football again or is he done?

Great chance. He will be back for the spring semester as long as he doesn't mess up again.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Is there any chance of him playing football again or is he done?

Sure there is a chance. If he takes care of whatever it is that he needs to get back into ND, he could return for spring practice in 2014.

 

[irishknight35]

Actions have consequences. Golson received a negative consequence for his poor decisions and how he reacts to them will be very important to his own personal growth as a human being.

If he truly made a 40 yr decision when he decided to attend Notre Dame then he will do what it takes to get in good academic standing. If he never plays football again but graduates from ND I would consider that a success. Football is secondary.

 

[NDPhilly]

I was thinking about this earlier today. Since Golson isn't playing anywhere at all this year, this year wouldn't count against his eligibility right? Wouldn't he still be a RSsoph next year?

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

He still only gets 5 years to play 4. You can consider him whatever you want to but he will only have 2 years of eligibility left

 

[Irishnuke]

I was thinking about this earlier today. Since Golson isn't playing anywhere at all this year, this year wouldn't count against his eligibility right? Wouldn't he still be a RSsoph next year?

Not sure. Don't know if the "5 years to play 4" rule is in effect since he's not currently on scholarship.

 

[ND_HAS_RISEN]

Not sure. Don't know if the "5 years to play 4" rule is in effect since he's not currently on scholarship.

The clock starts the second you enroll into a college, doesn't matter if he isnt enrolled or on scholarship anywhere. Rule applies to all divisions. 5 yrs to play 4

There are *few* exceptions but sitting out for cheating certainly isnt one of them.

 

[MNIrishman]

But sitting out for jail is? SEC influence?

 

[NDWorld247]

Golson arrived in San Diego on Tuesday night to work with QB guru George Whitfield. He will spend the next 60 to 90 days trying to become a better QB. Here's a great read from Eric Hansen: Notre Dame football: Quarterback guru seeks to polish Golson’s skills - South Bend Tribune: Football

Honestly, I've always felt confident Golson would return, but I was worried about his development due to the time he would miss this season. After reading this article, I'm not as worried as I was.

He sat waiting in the San Diego airport Tuesday night for Everett Golson’s plane to land, not knowing if the Notre Dame quarterback-in-exile would be arriving alone or with family.

It was about the only uncertainty in George Whitfield Jr.’s vision of what Golson’s rebirth into college football will look like, beyond the precise number of days the two will spend together.

Actual re-entry won’t come until mid-January, but the work behind the comeback began Wednesday at 7 a.m. sharp.

By the time Golson and Whitfield sit down together Saturday night to watch 14th-ranked Notre Dame (1-0) and No. 17 Michigan (1-0) clash in Ann Arbor, Mich., Whitfield will have used yoga, the Pacific Ocean, brooms and beanbags all as props in the process of building on top of the momentous progress Golson had been making last spring.

The unorthodox 35-year-old Whitfield is the new standard and closest thing to a rock star in the private, quarterback-tutoring cottage industry. While his client list still leans heavily toward middle school and high school wannabes, the big names on it are exhaustive.

Both Andrew Luck and Cam Newton leaned on him in the days before they became first-round draft choices. Clemson’s Tajh Boyd and Ohio State’s Braxton Miller are among the current college star QBs who were outsourced to Whitfield.

And then there was 2012 Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel, who called transformative his eight days with Whitfield in the summer of 2012 before Manziel had overtaken Jameill Showers (now at UTEP) on the Texas A&M depth chart.

Manziel reportedly returned for a three-week reprise this past offseason.

That Golson chose to spend at least half of the span of his university-imposed suspension for academic misconduct with Whitfield was endorsed by Notre Dame head football coach Brian Kelly but initiated by the Myrtle Beach, S.C., product himself. Golson and his family are responsible for the costs associated with relocating to the West Coast for 60 to 90 days and training with Whitfield.

NCAA rules prohibit Notre Dame from lending a financial hand.

“I understand there was some discussion about maybe going to a junior college this semester instead,” Whitfield said. “But by the time Everett contacted me, that decision had al-ready been made.

“Because he enrolled early at Notre Dame and because he’s been heavy in his summer credits, it seemed to make sense to quietly improve his mechanics and strength in a safe, controlled environment rather than rolling him out on the field at a junior college.

“The academic piece was a factor, too. When he graduates from Notre Dame, he said wants to be able to say all of his credits were earned at Notre Dame.”

He’ll have to earn credit with Whitfield as well, though the quarterback engineer or quarterback builder, as he likes to frame himself, believes Golson’s ceiling is that of an elite college quarterback and an eventual NFL QB as well.

“I was always impressed with his demeanor,” said Whitfield, who by chance saw Golson play in person twice (at Oklahoma and at USC), while scoping out his own clients, and a handful of other times on TV. “I never saw him panic. I liked his commander-like presence, especially being so young. His team was in a lot of fist fights, really back-and-forth games.

“There was a time when the classic quarterback was Jim Everett, Drew Bledsoe, Peyton Manning. The model is changing, and it looks a lot like Everett Golson. Coupled with the school he chose, the leadership and teaching he is getting from coach Kelly, I believe he will proceed to the NFL. He is the game, when you watch him and you see him. He is what the NFL teams are doing.

“Look at Terelle Pryor, E.J. Manuel — it’s being dynamic. It’s not really about your 40 time as much as it is having two dimensions. And he’s already playing against NFL talent at Notre Dame.”

That Golson is coming during a time when most players are in school presented an unusual, but not unprecedented, dynamic for Whitfield in terms of surrounding him with talent in San Diego.

Whitfield set a template working with Ben Roethlisberger when the Pittsburgh Steelers QB was suspended for six game early in the 2010 season and again last season when during Casey Pachall’s banishment from TCU.

“There are a lot of junior colleges in the San Diego area, and a lot of these guys have night classes and they don’t have practice every day,” Whitfield said. “So he’ll throw to some of them. Then there’s a lot of NFL free agents who are down here, guys trying to get signed and who were recently released. So he’ll certainly have guys to throw to. I’m sure he wishes their helmets were gold, but these guys will help him find his way back.”

But it’s way more than throwing. It’s fundamentals. It’s film studying, including Golson watching himself lift. It’s sports psychology. Dr. Michael Gervais, for instance, will be in Golson’s ear. So will Andrew Luck and Cam Newton via telephone.

“He’ll be able to see his game from 30,000 feet rather than just with his feet on the ground,” Whitfield said. “The mental side is so important.”

Whitfield also knows persistence is important from his own quarterback background. Despite being encouraged to play a position other than QB at iconic high school football program Massillon High in Ohio, Whitfield and his linebacker build stuck it out to play QB for a school that produced three NFL head coaches, 14 college All-Americans — including Harry Stuhldreher of Four Horsemen fame — and 22 state championships.

Whitfield’s desire to stay at QB after high school limited his scholarship opportunities. He landed at then-FCS power Youngstown State to play for Jim Tressel (who later moved on to Ohio State). But after a year of sitting and then being encouraged to convert to another position, Whitfield left for Division II Tiffin (Ohio) University, where he splotched his name all over the record books.

A year as a weightroom assistant at the University of Iowa and four years of hits and misses in the Arena Football League helped bring Whitfield to where he is now. What he lacked in NFL résumé and formal coaching experience, he made up in relentlessly cracking the position’s essence.

“I did not get a chance to crank it out on Sundays for all kinds of reasons,” he said, “but that doesn’t mean from the neck up, I can’t understand it and teach it.

“What got me here is No. 1, I love it. I love getting a chance to do what I do. I love the position, what it means in the big picture, what it’s capable of doing, the dynamic of how much this one position generates.

“I decided to immerse myself in the inner workings of it. I’d go and spend time with the Ravens, then up to Stanford with Jim Harbaugh when he was there. I’d get coaches on the phone. I went to the last five NFL Combines. Half of my conversations were with scouts, GMs and coaches: ‘Tell me about the position. Tell me your solutions. What do you find most important? Most overrated?’ You know what?, I’m still learning.”

Back at Notre Dame, the feeling is Golson will not come back just as good as he was when he left, but better than he ever was.

“I think I’ll trust him more,” offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Chuck Martin said. “I’d like to think that he’s grown from that situation. You don’t know, but we’re pretty blind faithful as coaches. We assume that we’re going to get the best.

“The biggest thing for me is we always talk about we’re teachers and we’re mentors. I know that doesn’t keep our job. (Going) 12-1 keeps your job. (Going) 6-6 gets your fired. I get that. We work very hard not to go 6-6. But the other part that we got into this for is to help these kids to grow up and become better. That’s part of it.

“They have bad days at practice, they get better. They have bad days socially, they get better. They have bad days academically, they get better. They’ve got to learn from those or they never get better. ...

“We had heart-to-heart (talks) all the time. That was almost a daily occurrence a year ago. You think we spent all our time practicing. (No), it was mostly having séances. It might not have been heart-to-heart. It might have been my heart and I don’t know if it was always sinking in. He’s still a pretty special kid. I think he’s going to be a lot better for this whole experience. I really do.”

That was Whitfield’s very impression as well the first time he spoke with Golson.

“I asked him a lot of tough questions during that conversation,” Whitfield said. “I knew he had a lot to overcome, but I think he’s already overcome the biggest one, in terms of responsibility. The first time we spoke, he owned it. What he’s going through is heartbreaking.

“But he passed nothing on as someone else’s fault and he said to me, “I’m going to make those people back at Notre Dame so proud of me when I get back.’ ”

 

[NDinFL]

Very very cool, thanks for posting NDW247

 

[Irish YJ]

Good stuff. Very good stuff.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

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