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after missing the whole spring he wouldn't start over tommy anyway
'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)
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He would, but he's probably not coming back so it doesn't matter.
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I expect to see Clausen come back for his final season at ND about as much as I see Kiel coming back.
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It makes sense for Gunner to come back. Yeah he may not start this year, but after that, Rees will graduate, and Hendrix would be a 5th year senior. Gunner would win the job over him. Either way, he'll miss a year of playing time. But at ND he could get mop up duty or even start a few games this season depending on injuries and other unforeseen circumstances.
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Why do people want Gunner back? He hasn't proved he would /could be the starter. He quit on this team. It would. Be a shame if he came back. I really think Rees may be the best option.
I don't expect Gunner to come back. Frankly, I'm with those who don't want him back. If you take him at his word, he had a poor relationship with our offensive coordinator. Coach Kelly, Coach Martin, and the rest of the staff are directly responsible for our turn-around season. If Gunner can't get along with our coaches, he should play elsewhere.
Being a quarterback is as much about leadership as it is skill set. Tommy's a leader. Andrew has been nothing but a class act, and with more reps in practice and a stout defense to back him up he may just surprise a lot of people.
Being a quarterback is as much about leadership as it is skill set. Tommy's a leader. Andrew has been nothing but a class act, and with more reps in practice and a stout defense to back him up he may just surprise a lot of people.
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He confirmed to the local Cincy newspaper he is staying a Bearcat. No return to ND.
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This.
To add to that, Joe Schadd (spelling?) spoke to Gunner who is already taking scholarship money. This thread can die now.
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Damn this all sux
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Why would you comeback if you were Kiel?
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His chances of winning the starting job just improved about a million percent.
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Oh really? Jason White, Josh Heupel, Chris Leak, Matt Leinat (just a list from BCS title game participants) and numerous other QBs disagree. The thing about having a weaker armed QB is that you must tailor the offense to them and I believe that Kelly hasn't done a god job at that.
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Little bit yeah. He could've had a good career but he left and now we need him and if he comes back he better perform if he stays at cincy I hope he lives to regret it. If I offended anyone I'm sorry but after this offseason I'm a selfish jerk as a fan I only care if it benefits the Irish and helps us win and if anyone else wins then I don't care they aren't nd. Maybe ill feel better after the lady gets home from work.
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The correct way to say this is to say he won't be returning to ND. Kiel will probably transfer a couple dozen times to other places though.
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HAHAHAHAHA are you $hitting me? You're comparing Rees to those QBs? Whatever man, stick to your opinion. I'd just advise you to go back and watch some of the games where Rees was the primary QB. He's great coming in as relief, but in extended periods of time, he severely limits our offense: Michigan, Pitt, BYU were some of the ugliest offensive games I've ever seen. If Rees is our QB, our defense has to play even better than last season for us to get a BCS bowl. And I agree Kelly hasn't done a good job at tailoring the offense to Rees, but it's kind of hard to work with constant screens and handoffs. I really hope Hendrix can get it together for his last season.
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Well you failed reading comprehension. I just pointed out that all of those QB's had average to below average arms (Hell all but Leak are also really slow). What made those QB's good were that they had a Coach who tailored the offense to their skills and the QB's were accurate and generally made good decisions. I am not saying that Rees is as good as those QB's but that there is a template for a QB with an average arm to succeed.
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I feel you. You were pointing out that it doesn't necessarily take a cannon to be a great college QB. And you're right.
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As you can see, I said he is not a starting-caliber QB for a team of BCS bowl caliber. You pointed out QBs that were BCS bowl caliber that had weak arms, presumably to prove that weak-armed QBs could play on BCS bowl level teams. Again, Rees is nowhere near those QBs, which you admitted, and I agreed with you that Kelly has not tailored the gameplan well to his talent level. But as I said before, if you try to run screens (which Rees can't throw anyway - remember the "fumbles" from 2011?) and run the ball all day, even Temple's DC could stop you. And now Rees doesn't have a safety blanket like Floyd or Eifert. So no, I didn't fail to comprehend your point, I just disagree because Rees is simply not as good as those QBs.
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Damn, late to the part here. Couldn't get away to type this morning, but seriously, I wouldn't want Kiel here because he's just not that good. Besides the fact that he's not a competitor (what QB worth anything has quit on a team before trying to compete for a job???), he simply isn't a ND level QB that we saw in Golson and that I think we'll see in Zaire.
Reporters who saw him said as much last year. I talked to a reporter before the spring game who I won't name who straight up said that his source saw Kiel at the end of the year and that Zaire was already better than Kiel. Pete Sampson said Kiel had a long way to go last year, and so did Mike Frank. This is BEFORE he transferred, and these guys sugarcoat these things when the players are still on campus.
ND fans on other sites and some on here got enamored by his star rating, instead of what was on film and what people who saw him play at ND were saying. A few posters on here who shall go nameless got too many people riled up about how great this kid was, when in reality his isn't that great and isn't a competitor. I don't hate the kid, matter of fact I hope he commits himself to being great at Cinci and does well. But for me, I wouldn't want him back even if he did want to come back. He's not that good IMO...
Reporters who saw him said as much last year. I talked to a reporter before the spring game who I won't name who straight up said that his source saw Kiel at the end of the year and that Zaire was already better than Kiel. Pete Sampson said Kiel had a long way to go last year, and so did Mike Frank. This is BEFORE he transferred, and these guys sugarcoat these things when the players are still on campus.
ND fans on other sites and some on here got enamored by his star rating, instead of what was on film and what people who saw him play at ND were saying. A few posters on here who shall go nameless got too many people riled up about how great this kid was, when in reality his isn't that great and isn't a competitor. I don't hate the kid, matter of fact I hope he commits himself to being great at Cinci and does well. But for me, I wouldn't want him back even if he did want to come back. He's not that good IMO...
Because he hasn't changed team's in weeks.
Like many people last night I thought of Kiel as the bad news unfolded.
No way, I thought, would it be possible for an encore.
Then, I read the well done article on the pertinent NCAA regs - WAY!
Then today I read Kiel's declaration, "I'm a Bearcat!"
It had all the conviction of "I'm a Hoosier!", and "I'm a Cajun!", and "I'm Irish!"
His history screamed, "Done Deal!"
Then I read Golson's well crafted humble pie taking responsibility for his poor judgement and pledging to regain the trust of family, friends, teammates, coaches, and the entire Notre Dame community.
AND, thanking the University for the opportunity - to return.
Kiel is not going to take the chance to win the job at ND in '13 facing the prospect of prime competition in the Spring of '14.
We will ride Rees, Hendrix, Zaire, and "QB Nix" as far as they, their teammates, and their coaching staff can go. I look forward to the ride!
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Brian Kelly: Kiel has found the right place at UC | UC Athletics Blog
No mention of chest size?
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I think that he will start, slay it, go on to a great NFL career and then adopt me as his son.
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A tentative 1...given Kelly's fortunes having had TR to throw in the fire when a youngster screws the pooch, I think he rides the talent of GK, and saves a game or two while he grows up with TR...basically last year v.2.0.
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Is this officially your first comment on the GK situation?
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Thanks for transferring and leaving us with nothing at the QB position.