'14 NC RB Elijah Hood (UNC Verbal)

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I would be happy if, after his OSU visit, he said "They really moved up for me and might be my new #1, but I have to take some time and think it over."
 
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This would be more painful than Justice Hayes switch.

In the recruiting process, no previous Notre Dame coaching staff, has shown more preparation, determination, and effort at securing commitments from quality(on and off the field) players. As the 2013 class has shown us, this coaching staff has their act together. With innumerable scholarship offers, the 2014 class will sign a quality running back.
 

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In the recruiting process, no previous Notre Dame coaching staff, has shown more preparation, determination, and effort at securing commitments from quality(on and off the field) players. As the 2013 class has shown us, this coaching staff has their act together. With innumerable scholarship offers, the 2014 class will sign a quality running back.

And even if we didn't we'd be pretty set with the two that we landed in the last class...

If anything, I'm more concerned with the pattern here. The on campus visit experience for prospects at Michigan is > than the one at ND. Not saying ND does a bad one because they certainly don't... our visits have a way of blowing away kids that don't expect it. But Michigan is doing a GREAT job with whatever they're doing. They have an earlier junior day, "BBQ at the Big House", and other events... but just in general we've now seen lots of guys (even guys who don't have Michigan as a leader) say Michigan does the best job of the midwest crop of schools.

Maybe part of it is just inherent disadvantages from no jumbotron, no athlete dorms, etc.... but I'm struggling to put a finger on what they could be doing so amazing.
 

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U belong to Bucknuts?

Nope, checked out Eleven Warriors and gathered the info.

EDIT: I should have made that clear, but I'm new to the whole summarizing-the-news thing
 
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And even if we didn't we'd be pretty set with the two that we landed in the last class...

If anything, I'm more concerned with the pattern here. The on campus visit experience for prospects at Michigan is > than the one at ND. Not saying ND does a bad one because they certainly don't... our visits have a way of blowing away kids that don't expect it. But Michigan is doing a GREAT job with whatever they're doing. They have an earlier junior day, "BBQ at the Big House", and other events... but just in general we've now seen lots of guys (even guys who don't have Michigan as a leader) say Michigan does the best job of the midwest crop of schools.

Maybe part of it is just inherent disadvantages from no jumbotron, no athlete dorms, etc.... but I'm struggling to put a finger on what they could be doing so amazing.

See, to have the conversation you want to have, which is a really important conversation to have, you must make two assumptions, that EH is a guy that will end up going to ND less other schools recruiting efforts, and that there is no cash in the deal at M and OSU. I had good enough friends who played at both, back in the day, and I saw envelopes pushed under the doors after good games.

So I know how it has been there for over thirty years. When Tyrel Prior went to a party the weekend of his OSU visit, his host shouted out for volunteers for a bj for old Tyrel. Six girls came forward. Not including that in the conversation, puts the whole conversation off the mark. Not many are going to have the life lessons to put that in it's proper perspective.

People put Stanford in the same category of recruiting as ND. It isn't. Though it is hard to get admitted, there are certain things about ND that are going to be recruiting impediments to many recruits, and you aren't going to know about it, until it happens.
 

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See, to have the conversation you want to have, which is a really important conversation to have, you must make two assumptions, that EH is a guy that will end up going to ND less other schools recruiting efforts, and that there is no cash in the deal at M and OSU. I had good enough friends who played at both, back in the day, and I saw envelopes pushed under the doors after good games.

So I know how it has been there for over thirty years. When Tyrel Prior went to a party the weekend of his OSU visit, his host shouted out for volunteers for a bj for old Tyrel. Six girls came forward. Not including that in the conversation, puts the whole conversation off the mark. Not many are going to have the life lessons to put that in it's proper perspective.

People put Stanford in the same category of recruiting as ND. It isn't. Though it is hard to get admitted, there are certain things about ND that are going to be recruiting impediments to many recruits, and you aren't going to know about it, until it happens.

Are you thinking something may be holding EH back in terms of ND? I thought the conversation was simply that Michigan blew him away, not that something at ND is hindering his recruitment (aside from maybe having limited spots and having signed two studs in the last class, so the coaching staff isn't "pressing" for him yet).
 
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See, to have the conversation you want to have, which is a really important conversation to have, you must make two assumptions, that EH is a guy that will end up going to ND less other schools recruiting efforts, and that there is no cash in the deal at M and OSU. I had good enough friends who played at both, back in the day, and I saw envelopes pushed under the doors after good games.

So I know how it has been there for over thirty years. When Tyrel Prior went to a party the weekend of his OSU visit, his host shouted out for volunteers for a bj for old Tyrel. Six girls came forward. Not including that in the conversation, puts the whole conversation off the mark. Not many are going to have the life lessons to put that in it's proper perspective.

People put Stanford in the same category of recruiting as ND. It isn't. Though it is hard to get admitted, there are certain things about ND that are going to be recruiting impediments to many recruits, and you aren't going to know about it, until it happens.
Let me get this straight, envelopes stuffed with money and chorus lines to perform fellatio are a part of high school recruiting? I thought at Notre Dame mothers know best! I suspect, with his Irish roots, bogtrotter incorporates too much hyperbole in his story lines, exaggeration for effect.
 

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And even if we didn't we'd be pretty set with the two that we landed in the last class...

If anything, I'm more concerned with the pattern here. The on campus visit experience for prospects at Michigan is > than the one at ND. Not saying ND does a bad one because they certainly don't... our visits have a way of blowing away kids that don't expect it. But Michigan is doing a GREAT job with whatever they're doing. They have an earlier junior day, "BBQ at the Big House", and other events... but just in general we've now seen lots of guys (even guys who don't have Michigan as a leader) say Michigan does the best job of the midwest crop of schools.

Maybe part of it is just inherent disadvantages from no jumbotron, no athlete dorms, etc.... but I'm struggling to put a finger on what they could be doing so amazing.

I agree totally. As much as I love Hood, both for his on-field and off-field characteristics, RB is not a need this year, and I won't be too worried about him no matter what happens. It is not what happens with Hood or even Cole (as we have plenty of other OL interested) that concerns me; it's that Michigan out-recruited us last spring (and we only overtook them based on our great season and their lackluster one) and now it's looking like they may be able to do it again this spring. Let's hope not.
 

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I agree totally. As much as I love Hood, both for his on-field and off-field characteristics, RB is not a need this year, and I won't be too worried about him no matter what happens. It is not what happens with Hood or even Cole (as we have plenty of other OL interested) that concerns me; it's that Michigan out-recruited us last spring (and we only overtook them based on our great season and their lackluster one) and now it's looking like they may be able to do it again this spring. Let's hope not.

I don't think that we were necessarily "out-recruited" in the spring of last year. It is common knowledge that the ND staff does not press kids to commit and rather encourages them to take their time and make a well thought out decision. Michigan, if I'm not mistaken, was looking to get as many kids on board as soon as possible last year therefore pressured some kids to commit early in the process.
 

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Basically says OSU and UM are moving up, and that they will join ND in his top 3. Doesn't know the order.

Then let's all just take a deep breath, relax and let BK and staff take care of this.
 
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Are you thinking something may be holding EH back in terms of ND? I thought the conversation was simply that Michigan blew him away, not that something at ND is hindering his recruitment (aside from maybe having limited spots and having signed two studs in the last class, so the coaching staff isn't "pressing" for him yet).

No, I try not to think. But, Occam's (or Ockham's) razor is applicable to someone unafraid of a grevious wound.

Let me get this straight, envelopes stuffed with money and chorus lines to perform fellatio are a part of high school recruiting? I thought at Notre Dame mothers know best! I suspect, with his Irish roots, bogtrotter incorporates too much hyperbole in his story lines, exaggeration for effect.

Straight? Yes. I don't know what Notre Dame mothers are or what they have to do with this. And how dare you talk about me like I am not there. I have never treated you with disrespet ever, let alone judged you in such a narrow minded and superficial manner. Connor you are a great guy, but you don't have the right to judge anyone's motives or methods. A hundred guys could come forward and tell you about the cash, and the story about Tyrell's party weekend is well documented. And it happens in many places:

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No, I try not to think. But, Occam's (or Ockham's) razor is applicable to someone unafraid of a grevious wound.

So if we're talking about Occam's Razor and cutting back on assumptions, why mention the bit about ND recruiting and it's effect on certain recruits?

Not making an argument, just trying to understand the context of your comment on ND/Stanford
 
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Few schools, even ones with high standards and furrious reputations, exhibit the same call to honor and the integrety that Our Lady does.

It is simple to understand why ND's graduation rate is so high. Admissions, and the entire administration do a wonderful job, front to back.

It is also simple to understand why we are time after time surprised at the character of ND grads, athletically inclined or not. It is rooted in their character. Dave Casper, who I have quoted in my signature said it best:

"Notre Dame doesn't necessarily turn you into a person I want to be around, but the people I want to be around choose Notre Dame. In other words, it's a selection process and it's a combination. Notre Dame doesn't necessarily turn people into a Notre Dame-type person, but the Notre Dame-type person chooses to be at Notre Dame. You can tell a lot about a person by who they choose to associate with, who they choose to partner with, and I think Notre Dame has a clear idea that it's a long-term relationship. It's a family. It's a lot about the Catholic traditions, even if you aren't Catholic . . . "

When the top ten or fifteen percent can get in, and less than ten percent have the character and those aren't mutually inclusive groups, you need to be happy with those you get. You are not asking for the average burger flipper!
 

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I'm seeing the connection now, though I'm not sure how we jumped from his Michigan visit going well to the character of ND students.

Unless you are connecting the Michigan visit with potentially unsavory recruiting tools, and linking that to ND's honor and integrity that exist on the flip side. Too much before 1pm for me to handle Bogs haha
 
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I'm seeing the connection now, though I'm not sure how we jumped from his Michigan visit going well to the character of ND students.

Unless you are connecting the Michigan visit with potentially unsavory recruiting tools, and linking that to ND's honor and integrity that exist on the flip side. Too much before 1pm for me to handle Bogs haha

You need another bloody mary.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> target Elijah Hood RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/ehood34">ehood34</a>: 1. Norte Dame 2.Michigan 3. Ohio State New Top 3</p>— Jason Sapp (@BGI_JasonSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_JasonSapp/status/306163815169523712">February 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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2014 RB Elijah Hood high on Notre Dame

Wants to stay down where he lives....UNLESS Notre Dame comes calling

Wants to visit up there badly and is currently trying to visit in the summer.

Same high school as Mark Harrell

When the coaches came to see Mark they met with Elijah and Coach Kelly and Alford are very interested in him

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> target Elijah Hood RT @<a href="https://twitter.com/ehood34">ehood34</a>: 1. Norte Dame 2.Michigan 3. Ohio State New Top 3</p>— Jason Sapp (@BGI_JasonSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_JasonSapp/status/306163815169523712">February 25, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Interesting how things change. Wanted to stay in the south unless Notre Dame came calling. Fast forward a few months, top 3 is exclusively northern schools
 
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