Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

[koonja]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought.

What was a private investigator going to do for the Declan case? Test the durability of the scissors lift? See if BK was waiting for him at the bottom with a shotgun making him go up there?

 

[Ironman8]

Kapron Lewis-Moore ‏@KLM_89

Who ever was the teammate that did that interview on pepper on sports and wanted to keep his name "annoynus" is really a punk

 

[ThePiombino]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought.

Weren't those both potential criminal cases that were in the hands of law enforcement? No one was going to invesitgate this unless someone hired a private group seeing as there is currently a lack of a criminal element.

 

[Emcee77]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought.

That's a good point?

Didn't we commission a full-scale investigation, headed by the former president of the University of Arizona, a person with an academic background in engineering, into the Declan Sullivan incident?

With Seeberg there was no reason to hire a private investigatory (a little Zoolander anyone?) firm. We were capable of doing the investigation ourselves, and did. The only issue there was ND's refusal to talk about it.

 

[UmphreakDomer]

I actually think ESPN has been relatively fair. They've been very conservative, have been quick not to blame anyone, and most of the people they've interviewed have been respectful to Te'o and acknowledged that we don't know enough yet.

Although I've been getting annoyed every time they mention the "former player's comments" and assume that the player means that Te'o knew Lennay was fake, not that he meant Te'o embellished the relationship (which is what most of us think).

OTL was way off base today. very inappropriate by saying that the university did not have the same action/reaction in both cases of declan and the st. mary's student. and that the public was silent over both tragedies. very immature. and it seems that jay bilas has made it a priority to figure it out himself.
gene woj has maintained a certain level of objectivity, but is wavering and almost baiting manti to speak.

 

[PADOMERNUT]

Why hasn't anyone talked about this (Maybe you all have and I missed it) but how this revelation affected the BCS National Championship??
The coaches found out Dec 26th and he found out the 6th...it clearly affected his play and possible the whole teams play.
Also, yeah its far reached, I know, but Kelly interviewing the Eagles. Was he trying to avoid this?

ARE.YOU.SERIOUS.

 

[BeauBenken]

Kapron Lewis-Moore ‏@KLM_89

My man Kap.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Circumstantial.

Would you post it in the other thread when you find it good sir?

Reps when done!

It was Robert Woods to Ronaiah Tuiasasopa. It was from early summer 2012. All it said was "hahaha what did you do today"

It is strange, but Tuiasasopa has links to the USC program. He and some of his family/friends were at the ND/USC game this year. Te'o even tweeted about it because he is/was also friendly with Ronaiah.

 

[dudesthisisthebest]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought.

The longer this goes on the more it seems like Notre Dame should have just said from the very start that this is personal matter for Teo to deal with. I understand the NCAA 'infractions' side of this, but it had to be pretty clear once the person reconnected with Manti whether or not this person was trying to extort Teo or influence games.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought

Ludicrous. The Seeberg case was criminal and handled by police. The Sullivan case happened at the university and had to do with safety of a person under the care of the school. This story has absolutely nothing to do with the institution itself. If the school didn't step in to help Te'o, no one else was going to. There were organizations that stepped in and -- by default -- had to deal with the Seeberg and Sullivan ordeals. Huge difference.

 

[betecd]

Melinda Henneberger, who has attacked ND(And is a Alumnus)over the Lizzy Seeberg case.

Are you speaking of the article before the NCG?

 

[STLDomer]

Pete Thamel's story is must read.

 

[magogian]

Hitler reacts. Its HILARIOUS

Hitler Reacts to Manti Te'o Hoax - YouTube

 

[Cali_domer]

Are you speaking of the article before the NCG?

Nope she has another one.

 

[Ironman8]

Kapron Lewis-Moore ‏@KLM_89

You bled and sweated we all went through 2 a days, Went through this special season and you gonna say stuff like that... Seriously. #LOW

 

[Folsteam_Ahead]

Hitler reacts. Its HILARIOUS

Hitler Reacts to Manti Te'o Hoax - YouTube

OH MY GOD! that's out of control hilarious. "the college gameday signs will be terrible". best line in there.

 

[Ironman8]

John Goodman ‏@jgoodman81

Whichever one of our teammates kept their name 'anonymous' in that PepperOnSports article is a complete coward and I hope they r embarrassed

John Goodman ‏@jgoodman81

Who do u think u r? If you were on the team, chances r ur reading this. I hope u see it. Embarrassment. Classless. People r gona find out

 

[IrishSteelhead]

The longer this drags out, the more impatient I get.

There is a full-blown witch hunt going on out there, and Manti needs to bite the bullet and be 100% forthcoming on every single detail, no matter how minute, of this ridiculous story NOW.

I don't understand waiting, and getting raked over the coals if there is nothing to hide, and with Jack involved now, there sure as s-it better be nothing to hide.

"What makes you a man is what you do when that storm comes."

 

[PraetorianND]

Hitler reacts. Its HILARIOUS

Hitler Reacts to Manti Te'o Hoax - YouTube

Super funny. Makes this whole thing much lighter (for me)....

 

[Whiskeyjack]

First Trace Armstrong decides to leak BK's interest in the Eagles, and now Tom Condon has twice delayed Te'o's response to this debacle.

So for the 2nd time in 10 days, ND fans are getting raked over the coals because of someone's f*cking agent.

 

[magogian]

Tom Condon trying to work a better deal?

 

[rtrn2glory]

so is it safe to say that kap and goody are under the impression that they had no idea?

 

[Ironman8]

notre dame football teo goodman - chicagotribune.com

John Goodman was training in his hometown of Ft. Wayne, Ind., on Wednesday when he, like most of the rest of the universe, discovered his star Notre Dame teammate's girlfriend was nothing but a hoax.

That news shocked the former Irish wide receiver, who played four years alongside Manti Te'o. That news did not shake Goodman's belief in Te'o, nor cause him to second-guess the emotions he saw from the All-American linebacker in September when he believed that girlfriend had died.

"Absolutely it seemed real," Goodman told the Tribune in a phone interview Thursday. "It was real. If you watch his interviews -- if he's that good of an actor, then Hollywood better be giving him a call. But obviously Manti is like rest of us. It was real in the locker room, real on field, and that's what I know of it."

It's an expected rally by a former teammate learning a hard truth about Te'o, who is now embroiled in a morass of questions after it was revealed that Lennay Kekua, his girlfriend who had died of leukemia in September, was nothing but a fabrication.

Goodman conceded that he knew little about the relationship between Te'o and the now-fictitious girlfriend and did not press for details about it, so he "never thought anything of it."

What he thinks now: There is no way Te'o could be complicit.

"The way I put it together, I'm on Manti's side," Goodman said. "He was screwed over by someone who wanted to play some sick joke. I don't know if they wanted to get close to Manti or they were a huge fan or they were playing a joke. Whoever (plays) a sick joke like that for that long has something wrong with them. I don't put this on Manti. I'm on Manti's side."

Asked how he could be so sure Te'o played no part in a deception, Goodman said: "I've been around Manti for four years, and I know him pretty well, I think. That's what I see and that's the kind of person he is. There's no way that he would do anything like that."

Te'o learned of the possible hoax on Dec. 6, according to Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick's timeline, and informed school officials about it on Dec. 26.

The Irish were deep in preparation for Alabama and the BCS title game at that point, but Goodman said there was no apparent weight on Te'o during the run-up to the eventual 42-14 blowout loss.

"Nope, I didn’t notice anything," Goodman said. "I guess that's just him. To me, it seemed like he was unfazed by it.

"This is really sort of a shocker to me, too."

 

[BeauBenken]

Good teammates, great brothers...to the rescue.

 

[kwhitton99@yahoo.com]

kwhitton99@yahoo.com

 

[ThePiombino]

Mastermind's Father Speaks:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...mastermind-20130117,0,5888906.story?track=rss

 

[Grahambo]

Manti is repped by one of the most powerful men in football: Tom Condon. He is in good hands right now with Condon who also has a JD; I think he has this under control. He will not let Manti go head-on into a witchhunt without having every t crossed and every i dotted. As has been stated, this is out of ND's hands. This is actually one of the best things to happen for Te'o in this situation.

Time is the most important thing right now for Manti and patience will prevail.

As for the nutjob reporters, these are the same type nutjobs who screwed up the Sandy Hook information so excuse me for not jumping at their every word.

 

[Walter White]

Some guy I've never heard of was on ESPN today made a good point, as painful as it may be: That ND goes and hires a private investigator to help Te'o out, but doesn't hire private investigators for the arguably more serious Declan Sullivan and Lizzy Seeburg cases because they were afraid of what would be uncovered. Just some food for thought.

Except they did hire a 3rd party company to evaluate and assess the Declan Sullivan events. Don't let facts get in the way of a good story tho.

 

[Rack Em]

Melinda Henneberger, who has attacked ND(And is a Alumnus)over the Lizzy Seeberg case.

Cee You Next Tuesday

 

[mgriff]

Cee You Next Tuesday