'13 PA ATH Alex Anzalone (Florida Early Enrollee)

[Grahambo]

You didn't contradict it, you just said the opposite thing. But the opposite thing that you said is wrong. Maybe you could find one extreme example of a recluse that honestly wanted to be an assistant his whole career, but basically by rule these guys all want to be head coaches. Diaco is no different. He will be a head coach someday.

Bud Foster is another long time assistant who hasn't become a head coach. Maybe he does want to and just hasn't yet. I'm not saying Diaco doesn't want to be a HC because I really don't know his thinking but it's not out of the realm of possibility that he sticks as DC for a while.

 

[greyhammer90]

Probably not, and that's what he's apt to get offered right now. Everything I've heard from reliable sources is that he is almost sure to be at ND next year. Most everyone thinks he's going to stick around at ND until he does enough to get a big time offer like Muschamp did at Florida from Texas... you don't get that after one good year, you get that after proving yourself over multiple seasons at a big time program.

Unless you're Charlie Strong. And then you never get that.

 

[Irish#1]

You didn't contradict it, you just said the opposite thing. But the opposite thing that you said is wrong. Maybe you could find one extreme example of a recluse that honestly wanted to be an assistant his whole career, but basically by rule these guys all want to be head coaches. Diaco is no different. He will be a head coach someday.

I tend to side with Ghrambo on this. Some coaches don't want the extra pressure and outside activities that go along with being a head coach. They just love the X's & O's and the teaching. These type of guys stay under the radar so you don't hear much about them like the guy who does want to take the next step up the ladder.

Typically the major programs want someone who has HC experience at another place. There are exceptions to the rule, but. Does anyone remember that the MAC is called the "Cradle of Coaches"? Lots of coaches over the years were at the MAC then took over a major program.

 

[NDinL.A.]

On power hour, Mike Frank had mentioned that there was 'something that might have happened' that had made Alex less interested in Notre Dame which was why he started looking more at Florida. Mike refused to say on the air what happened, but was willing to say if you tailgate with him. Does anybody know what he's referring to???

No, but I'm tailgating there Saturday for a while (but I won't put it on here...but buy me a beer next time you're in South Bend and I'll tell you LOL)...

 

[dublinirish]

I would like Bobby D to go the Monte Kiffin route and produce a First Born with Coaching pedigree but without the Lane/douchebag genes. Thus the ND defense should be in good hands til 2082.

 

[Luckylucci]

An update on the II board by Sampson basically says that things are starting to sound more positive for us with Anzalone. The relationship with Diaco this weekend will be key.

You have to like our chances if thats the case. It seems as tho all the players love him.

 

[NDdomer2]

So was this basically he thought we were trying to take Isaac over him?

 

[Rhode Irish]

Its because we recruited Isaac Savinniea or whatever and he got pissed. I am sure Alex reads message boards most recruits do they know what's going on.

I miss the Diaco pictures of when Ishaq committed anybody have those please PM them to me.

I do remember that someone that apparently knew Alex (my assumption) came on here to defend him visiting Florida, and his argument was heavily based on his claim that Isaac was a "silent" to ND at that time (this was prior to Isaac's visit) and ND had been dishonest or non-forthcoming.

Certainly seemed that Alex's camp was under the impression that our staff was after Isaac hard and maybe even had him in the fold. IIRC, that happened during the week between Alex's visit to UF for the LSU game (10/6) and Isaac's visit to ND for the Stanford game (10/13), so maybe when Isaac's visit came and went without anything moving on Isaac's recruitment, the Anzalone camp reconsidered their position.

This is stretching it a little bit, but maybe it was UF that had led him to believe Isaac was flipping to ND and it ended up hurting their credibility.

 

[jimmymac]

He's been talking to a bunch of ND guys on twitter lately (mike, butler...) definitely a good sign

 

[beryirish]

He's been talking to a bunch of ND guys on twitter lately (mike, butler...) definitely a good sign

definitely good considering during the time all the rumors were going around and his visit to Florida he was pretty silent on twitter

 

[ulukinatme]

We've had no problems paying head coaches stupid money /w buyout clauses in the past. I see no reason why we can't make a slightly less crazy deal to keep Bob on board for a long time.

 

[rtrn2glory]

IrishIllustrated.com - Mind of Mike: Will Anzalone fall in love with ND?

takes a nice shot at martini in here

 

[Rack Em]

IrishIllustrated.com - Mind of Mike: Will Anzalone fall in love with ND?

takes a nice shot at martini in here

That's funny because GB said this in Greer's recruiting profile:

Talk about stud Alabama sent him a hand written letter saying he is at the top of there board per BGI.

 

[aubeirish]

Well known fact that Farell is not the smartest of the bunch.

 

[Irish#1]

I do remember that someone that apparently knew Alex (my assumption) came on here to defend him visiting Florida, and his argument was heavily based on his claim that Isaac was a "silent" to ND at that time (this was prior to Isaac's visit) and ND had been dishonest or non-forthcoming.

Certainly seemed that Alex's camp was under the impression that our staff was after Isaac hard and maybe even had him in the fold. IIRC, that happened during the week between Alex's visit to UF for the LSU game (10/6) and Isaac's visit to ND for the Stanford game (10/13), so maybe when Isaac's visit came and went without anything moving on Isaac's recruitment, the Anzalone camp reconsidered their position.

This is stretching it a little bit, but maybe it was UF that had led him to believe Isaac was flipping to ND and it ended up hurting their credibility.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they had said this. Definitley a good sign he's talking on Twitter again. I really like the idea that he's visiting on a Sunday and Monday, where they can give him their undivided attention.

 

[Emcee77]

So was this basically he thought we were trying to take Isaac over him?

It makes sense. We were not just recruiting Isaac but also going hard after '14 ILBs like Clifton Garrett, Nyles Morgan and Raekwon McMillan. Maybe, if you are Anzalone, you see all that and you start to wonder if the staff really sees you as the answer for the next 4 years.

 

[PANDFAN]

It makes sense. We were not just recruiting Isaac but also going hard after '14 ILBs like Clifton Garrett, Nyles Morgan and Raekwon McMillan. Maybe, if you are Anzalone, you see all that and you start to wonder if the staff really sees you as the answer for the next 4 years.

i completely understand this thought...but you know when it comes to teams like Bama, USC etc....they are getting 4/5*'s committing and reloading at positions...what the recruits need to know is that if your the best your going to play

 

[dublinirish]

Programs like Bama though dont sweat it when 4 or even 5 star guys leave their program though, ND isnt at that stage yet..see Lynch, T-Shep et al.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Programs like Bama though dont sweat it when 4 or even 5 star guys leave their program though, ND isnt at that stage yet..see Lynch, T-Shep et al.

Doing just fine without them right now....

 

[Meacon Irish]

They seem to be doing alright so far with no Lynch or T-Shep.

 

[woolybug25]

Programs like Bama though dont sweat it when 4 or even 5 star guys leave their program though, ND isnt at that stage yet..see Lynch, T-Shep et al.

Yeah... this statement is kinda backfiring on you considering we haven't missed a beat without them. So your own argument shows why we ARE there.

If you think Bama fans don't care when they lose a recruit/player then you are wrong about that as well.

 

[dublinirish]

Yeah... this statement is kinda backfiring on you considering we haven't missed a beat without them. So your own argument shows why we ARE there.

If you think Bama fans don't care when they lose a recruit/player then you are wrong about that as well.

Think i phrased this wrong.. i meant the fanbases..not the actual team/coaches

 

[rtrn2glory]

i know kids want to play, but if they are under the impression that programs are going to stop recruiting elite talent just because they got them in the mix than they need to be educated on the recruiting business. ND is going to go after studs on Defense whether alex is in the mix or not...the kid can't be afraid of competition b/c if he is he should go to a MAC school where he will be guranteed early PT. If he goes to ND or Fla. he's going to need to compete his tail off to see the field and when he does see the field the staff's are going to continue to recruit elite talent to ensure they have elite depth.

writing this in response to him cooling on us b/c we supposedly had isaac in the mix...sorry if this doesn't make sense.

 

[Emcee77]

It may have been not that we pursued other ILBs, per se, but that he felt like we misled him about it. Sounds like Diaco made progress on Sunday though, and hopefully they'll finish clearing the air this weekend and he'll be fully back on board.

 

[IrishLax]

Beyond all the smoke and mirrors... his dad wanted (and probably still wants) Alex at Florida. That's typically hard to overcome. The fact that he is visiting ND shows that Alex really still has legit interest in ND... but I still expect it to be a bit of an uphill battle to secure his commitment. All of this other stuff about Isaac Sav and such I think is pretty inconsequential at this point. We clearly were only recruiting him in case we had guys like Alex jump ship and it's pretty easy to assume that's been communicated to him at this point.

 

[PraetorianND]

Beyond all the smoke and mirrors... his dad wanted (and probably still wants) Alex at Florida. That's typically hard to overcome. The fact that he is visiting ND shows that Alex really still has legit interest in ND... but I still expect it to be a bit of an uphill battle to secure his commitment. All of this other stuff about Isaac Sav and such I think is pretty inconsequential at this point. We clearly were only recruiting him in case we had guys like Alex jump ship and it's pretty easy to assume that's been communicated to him at this point.

That would be brutal. I know if my kid was looking at either going to ND or FL I would be encouraging him to go to ND. It would be really tough for both of us if he really like Florida...

If it were the other way around though, I wouldn't encourage him to go to Florida because of academics, despite it being my alma mater (hypothetical).

 

[rtrn2glory]

mom and dad win out a lot in these situations...not always (brian poole), but they do win a lot.

 

[irishpat183]

Flip side tho in his dad's shoes. Assuming he is a doctor (thought I read that somewhere), obviously UF gave him the education he needs.

Plus, it's not like UF is a bad school (cough, south carolina, cough). UF has a respectable business school. It's not ND, but it's not terrible either.

Yeah, but if the best or better is on the table...why in the holy hell would you sell yourself short?

 

[PraetorianND]

And to further that point...

I wouldn't push my kid to go to any place he didn't want too...simply because I was a student there 20 years ago?

If it comes down to where I WANT my kids to go...and where THEY want to go, it's always going to be their choice and where they fell comfortable.


This reminds me of those d-bag little league dads that are yelling at their kid to hit the ball, when the kid is already trying his best. You should give advice....not lobby.

Of course, I apologize if AA's dad isn't guilty of this...but the more I read, the more I see D-bag at the ball fields.

I agree with this. Except it seems like AA likes both schools and his dad is encouraging him to go to one of them. it's not like AA doesn't like Florida at all.

If it were me and my kid liked both I would encourage him to go to the one with the better academics in most cases. Obviously if it's between Yale and Harvard it's basically a wash. But if it's between ND and Florida (or South Carolina) as you said, I would encourage ND every time.

That being said, if he got into ND and really didn't want to go there, I wouldn't encourage him to go there. Even if his next best was Florida.

Make sense?

 

[Emcee77]

Beyond all the smoke and mirrors... his dad wanted (and probably still wants) Alex at Florida. That's typically hard to overcome. The fact that he is visiting ND shows that Alex really still has legit interest in ND... but I still expect it to be a bit of an uphill battle to secure his commitment. All of this other stuff about Isaac Sav and such I think is pretty inconsequential at this point. We clearly were only recruiting him in case we had guys like Alex jump ship and it's pretty easy to assume that's been communicated to him at this point.

Do we know that for sure? Or is that rumor? Not doubting it necessarily; it's certainly oft-repeated info on this site ... but I missed the source of the info.