Pandemonium at 4HL over Tee Tweets

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I'm calling BS too. Regardless of issue, I think the coaches would at least return a call and say "no thanks". Just common courtesy, and should be expected behavior from ND, or really any coaches not named Lame Kitten
 
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Long shot at best but we will see is what I gathered after reading tunnel vision
 
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Tee does a year in CC, transfers to ND and from that day forward, SEC fans scream, "Tee!" whenever we point out their shameless grey-shirting.
 
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Whiskeyjack said:
....Then the question becomes: does the staff want him back? We're all tempted to say "Of course!" because they were previously high on him, and he plays at a position of dire need for us. But the staff refusing to take his calls could be a major red flag-- as in, after having him on campus for 6 weeks, they now have serious doubts about his ability to succeed as a student at ND. Or maybe he was a poor cultural fit, and they think the odds of him getting into trouble at some point is too high to risk bringing him back.....
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maybe the coaches see this as a character issue. Integrity, seeing things thru to the end, and keeping your word still mean something to some ppl.
 
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As a consistent poster on IE I hope nobody thinks I am lying about what he said to me... think what you want though
 
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Emcee77 said:
Unnamed source says he ain't coming back, at least not right now. There's mutual interest in his return, but it's just not possible right now. TV doesn't say why.
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So if this is true, we can infer that the coaches not taking his calls was truly a rumor?
 
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irishfanjho15 said:
So if this is true, we can infer that the coaches not taking his calls was truly a rumor?
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No, I don't think so. As Whiskey pointed out, they may be worried that it would violate some recruiting rule. Or maybe the coach he's calling is on vacation. There could be any number of reasons. Who knows.
 
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DomeLover3 said:
As a consistent poster on IE I hope nobody thinks I am lying about what he said to me... think what you want though
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No sir. Not calling you personally out. Personally I think the situation could have been.....
1. Tee calls position coach or lead recruiter
2. Nobody answers
3. T leaves message
4. position coach thinks on it for a day
5. Next day position coach goes to BK
6. BK thinks about it for a day, maybe calls admissions to find what the options are
7. It's day 3 or 4 and Tee hasn't got a call back. Not feeling the love.
8. An informed BK or position coach calls T back.
9. It's still a mystery.... Can you help a brotha out?
 
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All I know is I hope Tee gets what he wants and ends up on the ND football team. haha
 
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As to the phone-calling scenario above:

When Kelly calls Tee back, a lightning strike redirects the call to Houston where it is picked up by Greenberry. Coach tells him that we're still supportive of him, thinking it's Tee. Greenberry, confused even more than usual, says "thanks but no thanks" and hangs up. Kelly much more confused than usual, goes back to work recruiting cornerbacks.

Yep. That must be it. Fits all the facts. Call the other fan sites.




.... REALLY can't wait for August 4th.....
 
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This title makes me think of this.

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Emcee77 said:
Unnamed source says he ain't coming back, at least not right now. There's mutual interest in his return, but it's just not possible right now. TV doesn't say why.
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I would imagine because it is just to soon compared to when he left. Just not enough time for things to have changed for the better.
 
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For what it's worth...
Text from my friend: "My friend texted Tee. He should hear from the clearinghouse "in the next few weeks" and is very confident he will be admitted"
 
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I personally find Tee unpredictable... I have no idea of what to think other than that I want him back
 
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I read on another board that the only real issue that needed to be cleared up was his ACT scores and that he re-took those since he left ND and they are apparently much higher and he should be able to be re-admitted with the new scores. TIFWIW. A reputable source on that board also said he was taking some summer courses, I'm not sure if he was also short on some credits or what the deal is with that. I trust the guy somewhat, he reported on that board before I saw it anywhere else that Tee left because of his test scores, not a heart problem.
 
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TP still does not think this happens... I'm going to go with TP but hope he is wrong. Lol
 
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Emcee77 said:
Unnamed source says he ain't coming back, at least not right now. There's mutual interest in his return, but it's just not possible right now. TV doesn't say why.
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Perhaps this is a reference to Tee's need to get past the Clearinghouse, Emcee? I could see the staff not holding their collective breath that he'll unilaterally accomplish that, which would make any further discussion of the possibility premature.
 
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DomeLover3 said:
As a consistent poster on IE I hope nobody thinks I am lying about what he said to me... think what you want though
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I was going to reply to one of your earlier posts but got caught up in the thread. I DO NOT think you are a liar or disregard your info. Which was why I said, personally, I leave about 3% hope. I think he won't be back, partly cuz of you. I will say, I have seen stranger things happen.

To sum my position up, I am waiting for the moment that comes and folks from all over CFB power houses say, "****. ND has found themselves a loophole within admissions to get recruits." Everyone in the world of CFB knows ND has HIGH standards. I love it!!! If we were to let Tee back in after all the drama and he graduated... where do you think that would sit on the minds of the CFB world? That would be HUUUUGE!!! Not saying it would happen or that ND is willing to admit those not able to graduate, but I think we should loosen up. I think we have and will get better. AS LONG AS GRAD RATES STAY UP TOP!! Whatever it takes right? As long as it is within both ND and NCAA.

I just hope Tee is our start.
 
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DomeLover3 said:
As a consistent poster on IE I hope nobody thinks I am lying about what he said to me... think what you want though
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I didn't. I purposely worded my to note there was a credibility issue with the statement. Wasn't the guy on the end of the phone the same guy that previously stated he had a medical clearance issue?

Every year there are a number of incoming freshman across the country that get held out due to Clearinghouse Issue. In a prior post regarding Tee, I noted some of them from ND that I recalled. All of them were nice people, none of them were 5 Stars, but I don't recall anyone else coming up issue du jour. When he left, he could have simply noted there was a Clearinghouse Issue (very common when more then one HS is involved and there are multiple transcripts). He could have even been specific and said something like "There's a question of one of the math courses I took at my second HS possibly being too similar to a course I took at my first HS and I'm a few credits short. I'll fix that in summer school and be on campus for preseason practice." Could have made a similar comment about a ACT test be 1, 2, or a few points short and he was retesting in the Spring.

Neither ND nor the coaches could comment on academic issues and one Tee brought up the medical issue the coaches are restricted from discussing details without release from the individual. Going back to the time when he left, Kelly mentioned a medical issue being reported but noted he could not comment on that. Kelly could have noted if it was a career ending injury ala Dan Wenger and other student athletes with had career ending issues.

Tee's saga has more twists than Joey Hiben's saga (you never have too many TE's, right Wooly?)

For those that think ND is harsh or uncaring read this article about Hiben who played as a freshman TE in in '05. Quit football but stay at ND to concentrate on Architecture (and publicly argued that Weis was inflexible when Weis reported attempts were made to work things out like Overseas Assignment), then transferred to Minnesota, then went out for football AND track (so much for too much workload), then broke his wrist, then TRANSFERRED BACK TO ND, was approached by Kelly to play but was out of eligibility, fought in Bengal Bouts, and graduated this Spring. Hiben's was an incredible journey.

ND didn't slam the door shut. But keep in mind that Hiben did what was he required to do by ND Admissions to get back into ND and by the faculty to graduate from ND.

Hiben’s journey comes full circle | Inside the Irish
 
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This whole thing is bizarre, especially the vague mutterings about a "broken" relationship between Tee and the coaching staff.

"We love Tee Shepard," is how Kelly put it when the kid left. They promo'd him in videos on Signing Day. Other players spoke well of him (as compared to, say, Lynch). Maybe he's a great actor but that doesn't seem like a broken relationship.

Everything here points to academic issues. Are those fixable issues? Who knows. But if it's really just a clearinghouse thing we ought to know by the time school starts, no? Then we can all move on with our lives?
 
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This could possibly be irrelevant to Tee Shepard's situation, but it is an example of how some people think/feel differently about their public persona than others. I have a friend who is a talented and accomplished guy, but who considers the fact that he "only" has an undergraduate degree and that he works on a type of job which gets no public respect as an embarrassment. So his response to this is to lie [with grains of truth] about this. If he's about to get into a master's program, he'll say that he has that degree or is about to. Instead of his real job, he'll pick his sideline semi-hobby which sounds more adventurous. Basically, he emphasizes semi-truths and spins them to make himself look better. Of course in the end this is a dead-end street, and can be embarrassing at moments of truth, but we all to some extent want people to think better of us, and wear our masks. This is especially true of teenagers.
 
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