Pandemonium at 4HL over Tee Tweets

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Every time someone wishes to make a remark for which they believe there is a substantive foundation, they should stop just for a moment and ask two questions of themselves at a minimum:

1). Does this remark have "credibility"? If so, can I in any reasonable way, transmit to readers why it has credibility so that they might accept such a claim as having some validity. If I cannot in any way transmit anything which accomplishes even a shadow of this support, then maybe I should remain quiet on the claim until I can do so.

2). Does the remark contain any actual information beyond what is already known, and is that information within the best interests of IE and Notre Dame? In other words, the remark should have clear substance ["brings something real/concrete to the table" --- and even innuendos in the right circumstances can do this] which does not leave the claim wide open to almost unlimited interpretation, which is no interpretation at all in the final analysis. And, although some differ about this: I believe that some circumspection should be maintained about how certain sorts of remarks [especially of an unprovable hypothetical nature] might negatively affect Notre Dame recruiting, Notre Dame current athletes and their families, and just common human dignity in general.

None of the above has to be applied to the post discussed above, and that is anyone's judgement. My own judgement on the post is that it could not be clearly supported in any way due to the poster's sensitivity towards his source [understandable and honorable], and therefore, since there is no definable substance in the "information" and a word "weird" used in a way that is open to the wildest out-of-control speculations, that the post should not have been made as it was until something more delimited could be said.

Hopefully the poster will return to source and get more information and the go-ahead to be more specific. If the additional information serves to seriously slander the young man involved, however, I for my part would be extremely judicious in what I said publicly.

This sounds like something Lou Holtz would ask.
 

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Okay you guys think I'm a college kid that ha a friend on the team couldn't be more wrong. I'm not going to name my source because that would be pointless and stupid. I was told this in a phone conversation straight from a coach on the staff who is a serious recruiter for ND. The facts are the really weird things that happened with him while on campus. I'm my goin into specifics because it is not right to mention or would it be acceptable for the things that happened to be written on here. If you really want some info it would and maybe cut the "vague" out of the statement, which is 75% of posts anyways then it'd have to do with coming home from the bars and actions taking place. So there you guys go who think your sweet because you have 2784894 posts on here and think I have no legitimate info.
 

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Okay you guys think I'm a college kid that ha a friend on the team couldn't be more wrong. I'm not going to name my source because that would be pointless and stupid. I was told this in a phone conversation straight from a coach on the staff who is a serious recruiter for ND. The facts are the really weird things that happened with him while on campus. I'm my goin into specifics because it is not right to mention or would it be acceptable for the things that happened to be written on here. If you really want some info it would and maybe cut the "vague" out of the statement, which is 75% of posts anyways then it'd have to do with coming home from the bars and actions taking place. So there you guys go who think your sweet because you have 2784894 posts on here and think I have no legitimate info.

We don't think we're sweet... we just think you suck....

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Okay you guys think I'm a college kid that ha a friend on the team couldn't be more wrong. I'm not going to name my source because that would be pointless and stupid. I was told this in a phone conversation straight from a coach on the staff who is a serious recruiter for ND. The facts are the really weird things that happened with him while on campus. I'm my goin into specifics because it is not right to mention or would it be acceptable for the things that happened to be written on here. If you really want some info it would and maybe cut the "vague" out of the statement, which is 75% of posts anyways then it'd have to do with coming home from the bars and actions taking place. So there you guys go who think your sweet because you have 2784894 posts on here and think I have no legitimate info.

Slow yo roll bro.... I think you can at least appreciate the initial skepticism with which people have greeted you. I am not informed of anything and usually am the last to know stuff, but if you want to continue posting here, I would maybe change the tone and rhetoric. You might actually convince some people you got good stuff. Just a suggestion. FWIW.
 

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Okay you guys think I'm a college kid that ha a friend on the team couldn't be more wrong. I'm not going to name my source because that would be pointless and stupid. I was told this in a phone conversation straight from a coach on the staff who is a serious recruiter for ND. The facts are the really weird things that happened with him while on campus. I'm my goin into specifics because it is not right to mention or would it be acceptable for the things that happened to be written on here. If you really want some info it would and maybe cut the "vague" out of the statement, which is 75% of posts anyways then it'd have to do with coming home from the bars and actions taking place. So there you guys go who think your sweet because you have 2784894 posts on here and think I have no legitimate info.

Dude relax! The point is why post anything at all if you cant give anything other than, ya heard something from a reliable source but you cant say what it is....point is dont sya anything than. OMM made a valid point. I welcome another poster with inside info but stick with more concrete stuff, not vague sh!t. Everyone gets attacked for vague things on here not just newbie...ask TP, and he is proven legit ;)
 

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I am fine I just think its funny how we're not supposed to get into a kids personal life but everyone on here is demanding I say exactly what is going on is all. Doesn't make any sense. The coming home from the bars is the furthest ill go to prove the facts of what I Know about tee while he was at ND. All I'll say again is that this is not the sole reason he left but this issue ha not been mentioned anywhere else and was a serious issue.
 
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Okay you guys think I'm a college kid that ha a friend on the team couldn't be more wrong. I'm not going to name my source because that would be pointless and stupid. I was told this in a phone conversation straight from a coach on the staff who is a serious recruiter for ND. The facts are the really weird things that happened with him while on campus. I'm my goin into specifics because it is not right to mention or would it be acceptable for the things that happened to be written on here. If you really want some info it would and maybe cut the "vague" out of the statement, which is 75% of posts anyways then it'd have to do with coming home from the bars and actions taking place. So there you guys go who think your sweet because you have 2784894 posts on here and think I have no legitimate info.

I heard from this guy this one time about another guy who could might be possibly coming back but maybe not that he did some strange and odd things. Well, I am not going to say what those strange and weird things are because either A) I am making this up, B) I don't have a clue and thus are making this up, C) is really Fister, or D) all of the above.

As to your words about your source. You don't name your source because then you would lose your source. If your basis for not naming your source is "pointless and stupid" well, that just shows to me that you don't have one. To top it off you then say that he is a coach who is an important recruiter on the ND staff (Alford, Diaco, Booker, Hiestand, Elliot, BK), yeah I really am not buying it until you have proof.

This is a fan friendly board, not rumor central. There are people on here who actually have some connection and thus share what they are allowed to share. Others are subscribers to pay sites and are kind of to shell out money for those sites and regurgitate it back to the rest of us. Then we debate a lot about many different things. Nobody is forcing you here.

You know what, I agree with that statement. There are also many posters who have very little posts who are liked around here. The more you post non-bs, the more people get to know you, thus trust you. You say you aren't a college kid with friends on the team but you certainly act like it.

Grow up.
 

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I am fine I just think its funny how we're not supposed to get into a kids personal life but everyone on here is demanding I say exactly what is going on is all. Doesn't make any sense. The coming home from the bars is the furthest ill go to prove the facts of what I Know about tee while he was at ND. All I'll say again is that this is not the sole reason he left but this issue ha not been mentioned anywhere else and was a serious issue.

If you can't say what it was, but simply want everyone to blindly believe that Tee is a bad kid, then how can you possibly not understand why we wouldn't want that crap on this board. I mean, ANYBODY could come on here like you did and start blasting recruits. Especially considering that you want us to believe that whatever it was that he did was "creepy", don't you think that you should either not say anything or come with facts? Or at least build some credibility around here before making such an attack on a kid?

Here's an example.

"I have a friend close to NDfan22's mom that says that she does "creepy" stuff. That's all I can tell you guys, but trust me... it's weird stuff..."

How does it feel?
 

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I've got info from a very credible source that says NDFAN22 sleeps in underwear of a specific kind made for a specific sex. I can't say exactly what kind of underwear or who my source is but let's just say it's weird and my source may or may not be a family member.

EDIT: Wooly... we're on the same wavelength, bud.
 

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I'm not blasting recruits. I would love to have Tee back. I'm simply giving inside info from a coach on NDs staff that was given to a source I have that is in very close connection because of a current recruit. If I was blasting him I would say exactly what I know and it would be inappropriate to do. And no one on here ever specifically names their source so then every single thing on here would be a rumor then. Sorry if my tone was bad didn't mean to be just bringing forth info I know close to the situation and there's a reason this wasn't never mentioned from either ND or tee because it would of been bad for tee.
 

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I'm not blasting recruits. I would love to have Tee back. I'm simply giving inside info from a coach on NDs staff that was given to a source I have that is in very close connection because of a current recruit. If I was blasting him I would say exactly what I know and it would be inappropriate to do. And no one on here ever specifically names their source so then every single thing on here would be a rumor then. Sorry if my tone was bad didn't mean to be just bringing forth info I know close to the situation and there's a reason this wasn't never mentioned from either ND or tee because it would of been bad for tee.

Why can't you get it through your head that saying a recruit did "weird and creepy" stuff is blasting him?


So you have a friend of a recruit that knows a coach who willingly told him that Tee did creepy stuff .... and that's your source? For real?...


Are you a real person or one of those Bot things that tries to get me follow a link for $.99 shoes?
 

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Yes that what I'm saying. We were on campus for an unofficial visit and sat in on all the meetings and had numerous conversations with coaches and players. I'm just saying I have seen all stuff behind the scenes.
 

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I'm not blasting recruits. I would love to have Tee back. I'm simply giving inside info from a coach on NDs staff that was given to a source I have that is in very close connection because of a current recruit. If I was blasting him I would say exactly what I know and it would be inappropriate to do. And no one on here ever specifically names their source so then every single thing on here would be a rumor then. Sorry if my tone was bad didn't mean to be just bringing forth info I know close to the situation and there's a reason this wasn't never mentioned from either ND or tee because it would of been bad for tee.


I have gotten numerous Craigslist and email scams. You sound just like one. Speak clear, correct and decent English, and you will have much more credibility.
IF 'creepy' and 'strange' things happened after 'coming home from a bar' then why would he want to go back? Or even hint at it?
I do not believe one word that you have poorly written. You are more then likely an ND hater trying to spread pathetic rumors.
 

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Well, the PS3 rosters for NCAA 13' came out today and Tee is on the squad, so that's good enough for me.

Seriously though, if he did come back, would he be eligible to play this season?
 

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I am an avid ND fan, if not more than you guys. If they lose it ruins the whole week. I already got my ND Michigan tickets for sept. 22.
 

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I am an avid ND fan, if not more than you guys. If they lose it ruins the whole week. I already got my ND Michigan tickets for sept. 22.

Oh wow. Why didn't you say that before? Totally changes everything. I take back my prior comment.
 

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Well, the PS3 rosters for NCAA 13' came out today and Tee is on the squad, so that's good enough for me.

Seriously though, if he did come back, would he be eligible to play this season?

I dont think anyone knows because no one knows 2 things it seems:

1) Why he left ND in the first place
2) His enrollment status at CC (because technically, if he goes to class, he is considered a JUCO if I am not mistaken). But no one really knows the status.
 
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I'm not blasting recruits. I would love to have Tee back. I'm simply giving inside info from a coach on NDs staff that was given to a source I have that is in very close connection because of a current recruit. If I was blasting him I would say exactly what I know and it would be inappropriate to do. And no one on here ever specifically names their source so then every single thing on here would be a rumor then. Sorry if my tone was bad didn't mean to be just bringing forth info I know close to the situation and there's a reason this wasn't never mentioned from either ND or tee because it would of been bad for tee.


you know its punks like you who make me not want to post on this board anymore. I know Tee i have talked with Tee plenty of times. I broke the news of him committing before a sole even knew he was going to do it. I have grown close with him over time. I have talks with him about USC, ND and still talk to him about all this stuff. I won't say why he isn't at Notre Dame anymore because its know ones business. For you to sit here and Tee did shady stuff and "weird stuff" is just completely wrong. Don't sit here and flex your muscles acting like you know something that you don't. You don't have to believe me and think whatever little ****ing source you have is correct because its not. Sure Tee made some mistakes while he was there but it had nothing to do with weird and shady sh1t. ND took a chance and Tee took a chance with ND. He still loves ND and wants to come back. Will he? i doubt it. But don't sit here and make up false **** about someone I grew close to over time. That will drive me out of my grave to post.
 
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Welcome back GB. Way to come off the top rope.
 
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