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[gkIrish]

Supposedly turned down a Brett Gardner for Brandon Phillips trade. I realize Phillips isn't as good as he once was, but I have a hard time justifying not making this move. Gardner is completely expendable at this point and if you can get a gold glove All Star who drove in 100 rbis last year at a position of desperate need, you have to do it.

 

[BGIF]

Yankee fans that go to the games-- HELP ME OUT. I have only been to two games and have the faintest idea where the delta suites are and struggled finding where they are located on the site as I saw multiple different sites. Where are they? My buddy has tickets for the game there and I am going with him.

If #1rish's response wasn't enough google Yankee Stadium Delta Suites, YS website has a FAQ and help/contact us page.

https://secure.mlb.com/help/email.j...Subject=None&dest=fanfeedback@yankees.mlb.com

Or you can call them.

 

[palinurus]

Supposedly turned down a Brett Gardner for Brandon Phillips trade. I realize Phillips isn't as good as he once was, but I have a hard time justifying not making this move. Gardner is completely expendable at this point and if you can get a gold glove All Star who drove in 100 rbis last year at a position of desperate need, you have to do it.

Was that a straight up deal? The only version I heard, and this was nearly a week ago, was Gardner, Warren and two good prospects for Phillips. I wouldn't have done that, but Gardner for Phillips straight up I'd do in a heartbeat. Not the biggest fan of Gardner as an every day player.

 

[gkIrish]

Was that a straight up deal? The only version I heard, and this was nearly a week ago, was Gardner, Warren and two good prospects for Phillips. I wouldn't have done that, but Gardner for Phillips straight up I'd do in a heartbeat. Not the biggest fan of Gardner as an every day player.

This article doesn't mention any other players

New York Yankees turn down offer of Brandon Phillips for Brett Gardner - ESPN New York

 

[Ironman8]

The issue with Phillips is that he is already signed at a high paying deal for 4 more years, and would want to re-open his deal to get more money if traded. I don't think the Yankees want any part of that.

 

[ACamp1900]

Phillips has also had a number of clubhouse issues if what you read has any truth to it...

 

[gkIrish]

The issue with Phillips is that he is already signed at a high paying deal for 4 more years, and would want to re-open his deal to get more money if traded. I don't think the Yankees want any part of that.

He's only 32. He may be trending down a bit the last couple of years but all indications are that he isn't happy in Cincinnati, which might have something to do with it. I'll take a 100 r.b.i. gold glove 2nd baseman to replace an absolute void at ~15 million a year.

Say they sign Infante at 8 million per year instead. Plus Gardner makes 2.8. So if you gave Phillips 4 years/15 million you are only paying 4 million more than the alternative.

 

[Ironman8]

He's only 32. He may be trending down a bit the last couple of years but all indications are that he isn't happy in Cincinnati, which might have something to do with it. I'll take a 100 r.b.i. gold glove 2nd baseman to replace an absolute void at ~15 million a year.

Say they sign Infante at 8 million per year instead. Plus Gardner makes 2.8. So if you gave Phillips 4 years/15 million you are only paying 4 million more than the alternative.

Pay more for less depth and a bigger locker room headache is not want the Yanks want lol.

 

[gkIrish]

Pay more for less depth and a bigger locker room headache is not want the Yanks want lol.

Depth isn't that important in baseball. You literally can't play Gardner, Ellsbury, Soriano, and Beltran at the same time. Especially because Girardi will DH McCann most 5th days and Jeter, Tex, and (Arod), will need to DH a lot. Kelly Johnson is a utility guy IMO. I'm not saying I would give up any prospects for Phillips but Gardner straight up for Phillips is a good deal considering need.

You have to deal with headaches sometimes. Reds have won a lot of games in the last few years so it clearly didn't affect their clubhouse enough to make a difference.

 

[Ironman8]

Depth isn't that important in baseball. You literally can't play Gardner, Ellsbury, Soriano, and Beltran at the same time. Especially because Girardi will DH McCann most 5th days and Jeter, Tex, and (Arod), will need to DH a lot. Kelly Johnson is a utility guy IMO. I'm not saying I would give up any prospects for Phillips but Gardner straight up for Phillips is a good deal considering need.

You have to deal with headaches sometimes. Reds have won a lot of games in the last few years so it clearly didn't affect their clubhouse enough to make a difference.

Uh disagree with you man. Depth is important. Benches can be huge. We saw that last year with the Yankees - we had a good bench and we were able to stay in it despite the inordinate amount of injuries.

 

[gkIrish]

Uh disagree with you man. Depth is important. Benches can be huge. We saw that last year with the Yankees - we had a good bench and we were able to stay in it despite the inordinate amount of injuries.

Benches are important. But Gardner is NOT a bench player. He is a starting outfielder. To let him sit on the bench would be a disservice to the organization and the fans when you can get a starting player at a position of need. Agree to disagree.

 

[Ironman8]

Benches are important. But Gardner is NOT a bench player. He is a starting outfielder. To let him sit on the bench would be a disservice to the organization and the fans when you can get a starting player at a position of need. Agree to disagree.

Yeah Gardner wouldn't sit. Soriano or Beltran would rotate in the outfield, and Wells and Ichiro would sit. That's a deep bench (depth). Plus, we add Infante at 2nd.

Trade for Phillips, and both Soriano and Beltran play while getting spelled often by one of Wells and Ichiro, thus eliminating one person of quality depth on the bench.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i as a sox fan hate gardner...he seems to always kill us so it wouldn't have upset me to see him go.

 

[palinurus]

Yeah Gardner wouldn't sit. Soriano or Beltran would rotate in the outfield, and Wells and Ichiro would sit. That's a deep bench (depth). Plus, we add Infante at 2nd.

Trade for Phillips, and both Soriano and Beltran play while getting spelled often by one of Wells and Ichiro, thus eliminating one person of quality depth on the bench.

Yeah, but I don't see them keeping six (Ellsbury, Soriano, Beltran, Ichiro, Gardner and Wells) OFs, even if they work out a DH scenario. Five OFs is plenty for 3 OF spots and DH and have a back up OF on the bench, esp. when you have ARod (assuming), Jeter, Teixeira, Ryan, Johnston, Nunez for the IF spots. Add two catchers and you are up to 14. I think one or two of these names get the gate via trade or cut, let alone if they trade for Infante.

Here's the article on the Gardner proposed trade. Sound like they envision Gardner playing a lot.

Yankees rejected offer for Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips, report says | NJ.com

 

[ACamp1900]

I still question bringing back Soriano,...

 

[palinurus]

I still question bringing back Soriano,...

I guess I can see dumping Soriano, playing Ellsbury and Gardner in CF and LF, respectively, and platooning Ichiro and Beltran in RF, with Beltran DHing when Ichiro is in RF. Keep Wells as the 4th OF for pinch hitting or whatever. If memory serves, Kelly Johnson allow plays OF passably. Just don't see them keeping 6 OFs, esp. because Girardi prefers an extra arm in the bullpen.

 

[ACamp1900]

They will have to do something by April.. agreed...

 

[palinurus]

This says they'd rather trade Ichiro -- it's from 12/10. Also, that NY wanted Homer Bailey (no kidding).

Yankees not shopping Brett Gardner, but listening to offers | yankees.com: News

 

[gkIrish]

Arod's suspension reduced to 162 games.

Doubt this is over.

 

[irish o'phile]

I am happy. I always have disliked that egomaniac. He does represent what a Yankee is. I hope he just goes away.

The reduction really doesn't change much. He just gets paid for the final games from last season. From what I'm reading he has little chance in Court.

 

[BGIF]

A-Rod's suspension reduced to 162 games | Fox News

 

[Irish#1]

Time to cut and move on.

 

[KPENN]

Time to cut and move on.

If it were that simple, don't you think they woulda done that by now?

 

[Ironman8]

Time to cut and move on.

We'd owe him all that money if we cut him. That makes no sense.

We just got a huge victory in terms of being able to have money going forward and possibly staying under the 189. ARod's full 2014 is now off the books, and we can place him on the restricted list - which opens up a roster spot for someone else (Tanaka?).

We will have to cross next year's bring when we get to it. But Arod would then be 40 and away from the game for quite a while. Retirement? Hopefully. Even if he doesn't, next year would be the year to cut him, not this year when his salary does not count against our books nor is he a body on our 40 man roster. Why be on the hook for 24 million for no reason just to have him not around in spring training?

 

[Rhode Irish]

I dislike A-Rod as much as the next guy, but this whole situation has been a witch hunt and a farce. The league made a mockery of their own disciplinary system to help a particular team - its most powerful and profitable team. I call bullshit.

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[irishog77]

I haven't followed the possible lawsuit story too close, but it seems like Rodriguez would have a case.

I agree with Rhode that it absolutely smells of a witch hunt (although I completely disagree that it was to help "its most powerful and profitable team") and a farce.

The league's steroid policy has always been a total joke. Every person on earth has known this for years...except major league baseball. They outed him (and several others) several years ago...for what was supposed to be an anonymous, non-punsihable test. He never failed a MLB administered test. MLB suspended him for 211(?) games, and now an arbitrator has reduced it to 162, based largely on the testimony of a 3rd party (who has nothing to do with MLB). Do I have this right?

I'm a guy that tends to side with management over labor, but this whole circus reeks of vindictiveness, an unprecedented suspension, and unfairness. From what I know, I hope the union helps him out and aides him; and he sues the shit out of MLB, recouping lost wages and damages on top of that.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Don't know where to up this but Tanaka is down to the Yankees, Dodgers, and Angels.

 

[BGIF]

Can he play 3B when he's not pitching?

 

[BGIF]

The many not-very-good options Yankees have to replace Alex Rodriguez at 3B | The Strike Zone - SI.com

By Jay Jaffe, SI

In all, that’s a fairly dismal array of options, one likely to force Yankees general manager Brian Cashman to explore a trade or beg 69-year-old Graig Nettles to come out of retirement. At the very least, Cashman will have to get creative, because between the returns from injury of Mark Teixeira at first base and Derek Jeter at shortstop, and the cobbled-together solution of Johnson and Brian Roberts at second base to replace the departed Robinson Cano, there isn’t a single sure thing in New York’s infield

 

[Ironman8]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BREAKING: According to a report, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Yankees&src=hash">#Yankees</a> have agreed to a 7-year, $155M deal w/ Masahiro Tanaka. Story coming on <a href="http://t.co/KaGTAJj7T6">http://t.co/KaGTAJj7T6</a>.</p>— WFAN Sports Radio (@WFAN660) <a href="https://twitter.com/WFAN660/statuses/426001915759964161">January 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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