WSJ Article - How Good Is Your Team?

[NDBoiler]

Probably a hotly debated topic:

College Football's Grid of Shame - WSJ.com

 

[wizards8507]

Per WSJ: Fake girlfriends are more important than excellent academics and graduation rates.

And people wonder why college football is in decline.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

The shame scale takes into account a variety of factors, from NCAA rules-related scandals and player misbehavior to academic performance and financial state.

We haven't had any NCAA violations, and we're top of the heap for academic performance and financial state. So why should ND fans be embarrassed?

I assume the author considered the our poor performance in the title game, the Lennay Kekua scandal, and Kelly's dalliance with the Eagles, but none of those things make me ashamed to be an Irish fan.

We just (1) had our best regular season in nearly two decades; (2) Kelly signed a top 5 class in February; and (3) we're primed to make a BCS game this year. This grid is embarrassing.

 

[wizards8507]

We haven't had any NCAA violations, and we're top of the heap for academic performance and financial state. So why should ND fans be embarrassed?

I assume the author considered the our poor performance in the title game, the Lennay Kekua scandal, and Kelly's dalliance with the Eagles, but none of those things make me ashamed to be an Irish fan.

We just (1) had our best regular season in nearly two decades; (2) Kelly signed a top 5 class in February; and (3) we're primed to make a BCS game this year. This grid is embarrassing.

Academic stalwarts Stanford and Northwestern rank among the winners. So does Notre Dame—although the Manti Te'o fake-girlfriend fiasco sent the Fighting Irish plummeting toward the "embarrassing" axis.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Wait, we should be more embarrassed than Vandy who had players gang raping a girl? Got it.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Academic stalwarts Stanford and Northwestern rank among the winners. So does Notre Dame—although the Manti Te'o fake-girlfriend fiasco sent the Fighting Irish plummeting toward the "embarrassing" axis.

Does the author note that somewhere, or is that just your inference. I think you're probably right, though.

So Te'o getting catfished completely erases any pride ND fans should feel in the rooting for the first and only program to ever be ranked 1st in the BCS and 1st in GSR? Gotcha.

 

[ACamp1900]

We haven't had any NCAA violations, and we're top of the heap for academic performance and financial state. So why should ND fans be embarrassed?

I assume the author considered the our poor performance in the title game, the Lennay Kekua scandal, and Kelly's dalliance with the Eagles, but none of those things make me ashamed to be an Irish fan.

We just (1) had our best regular season in nearly two decades; (2) Kelly signed a top 5 class in February; and (3) we're primed to make a BCS game this year. This grid is embarrassing.

Just when I thought you had me....... lol


So by this measure Clemson is the 'best' program in the country??? Okay

 

[wizards8507]

Does the author note that somewhere, or is that just your inference. I think you're probably right, though.

So Te'o getting catfished completely erases any pride ND fans should feel in the rooting for the first and only program to ever be ranked 1st in the BCS and 1st in GSR? Gotcha.

That was a direct quote from the article.

 

[NDWorld247]

The five schools closest to us (USC, OSU, UNC, PSU and UO) have all had major violations/scandals in the past few years. I'm embarrassed for the WSJ. They should stick their logo at the bottom left of this chart.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Just when I thought you had me....... lol

Perhaps I should have said "make a run". Most analysts are projecting a 9-3 record, which would be just on the cusp of BCS eligibility. Nothing's guaranteed, but we certainly have lots of valid reasons to be optimistic right now.

So by this measure Clemson is the 'best' program in the country??? Okay

Yes, a program infamous for paying its players is among the most admirable.

 

[ACamp1900]

Perhaps I should have said "make a run". Most analysts are projecting a 9-3 record, which would be just on the cusp of BCS eligibility. Nothing's guaranteed, but we certainly have lots of valid reasons to be optimistic right now.

I like cats, cats are also called pusses, we have two really good defensive linemen...

6-6.

 

[Wild Bill]

Mizzou's tutoring program strikes me as admirable too.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

This is a very troubling graphic.. any 3 year old can throw darts on a grid and put out something comparable to this

 

[ACamp1900]

What the hell is so admirable about Mizzou and Wisky to put them so high on that end... or MSU for that matter???

 

[NDBoiler]

Ok guys, I'll admit it. I photoshopped the graphic and reversed ND's and TCU's logo. Sorry.

 

[RDU Irish]

One of the comments laments about a football player being accused or rape and the girl committing suicide. Guilty until proven innocent in the eyes of the world. (word is the girl was not well mentally and it was a horrible situation, but not to the fault of the football player).

Michael Floyd, Everett Golson, not exactly nothing but proud moments for them.

Our "scandals" don't even get beyond rumor at other schools before it is covered up or more likely overridden by a bigger problem.

Dumb arbitrary graphic.

 

[ThePiombino]

One of the comments laments about a football player being accused or rape and the girl committing suicide. Guilty until proven innocent in the eyes of the world. (word is the girl was not well mentally and it was a horrible situation, but not to the fault of the football player).

Michael Floyd, Everett Golson, not exactly nothing but proud moments for them.

Our "scandals" don't even get beyond rumor at other schools before it is covered up or more likely overridden by a bigger problem.

Dumb arbitrary graphic.

/thread

 

[pumpdog20]

Nebraska & Notre Dame, two teams that will never have embarrased fan bases.

 

[ulukinatme]

Clearly Texas A&M belongs above the morality/admiration line. JFM has been a class act from the time he stepped on campus. I find it interesting that all the B1G teams are considered powerhouses except Illinois and Purdue. Really? Indiana and Minnesota aren't exactly world beaters.

WSJ has become the next Bleacher Report

 

[NDBoiler]

Clearly Texas A&M belongs above the morality/admiration line. JFM has been a class act from the time he stepped on campus. I find it interesting that all the B1G teams are considered powerhouses except Illinois and Purdue. Really? Indiana and Minnesota aren't exactly world beaters.

WSJ has become the next Bleacher Report

Agreed One more reason this is a farce.

 

[GowerND11]

The first thing I did looking at that chart was to see what the categories were they were measuring. I saw Admirable pointing upwards first. I immediately started searching the upper portion of the graph for the Notre Dame logo. To my amazement I did not see it, but saw Florida, Clemson, UCLA, hell even San Jose State in the upper half of the graph. Stunned I see Notre Dame damn near the bottom. Embarrassed? I just don't understand that graph at all. Lumping ND with PSU USC and OSU is just laughable.

But at least they have us trending as a powerhouse.

 

[GATTACA!]

but saw Florida[/I]

Murderers are admirable duh

 

[irishff1014]

Unc's unis are ugly and a quick strike by the Gamecocks

 

[ACamp1900]

Unc's unis are ugly and a quick strike by the Gamecocks

even more so when you consider how nice the unis they switched from were...

 

[Patulski]

We haven't had any NCAA violations, and we're top of the heap for academic performance and financial state. So why should ND fans be embarrassed?

Because the writer is a Michigan Grad.

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

What the hell is so admirable about Mizzou and Wisky to put them so high on that end... or MSU for that matter???

Because they are not Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State????


This is about the type of journalism I expect from any Rupert Murdoch enterprise. I'm surprised all the SEC school aren't just represented by one big SEC logo in the top right corner.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Because the writer is a Michigan Grad.

What a coincidence then that UM's two biggest rivals are listed among the most "embarrassing" programs in the nation.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

What a coincidence then that UM's two biggest rivals are listed among the most "embarrassing" programs in the nation.

He did put Michigan State pretty high though