World WAR III

[Irish YJ]

Reporting 10 ballistic missiles hit this base... and no one died?

What are they armed with? Mentos & Coke?

Heard a few say the missiles didn't even hit the bases late tonight. Saw another that said Iraqi casualties, but that was earlier.

 

[Circa]

Plane bound for Ukraine "crashes" shortly after takeoff from Tehran. I have a very hard time believing this was due to mechanical issues, unless mechanical issues means an Iranian missile.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ash-no-immediate-word-casualities/2840480001/

Wouldn't it be great If we had some sort of news agency that gave us the actual news...?
The fact that Ukraine Is in any news this evening, has to make everyone think the whole 'Quid Pro Quo' (which seemed to be something only to confuse and demean)... has got to be something to do with Iran/Russia.
I just want to know. I'm sure all of us, just want to be aware of the facts.

 

[ulukinatme]

Wouldn't it be great If we had some sort of news agency that gave us the actual news...?

Reuters. It's one of the few major brands that just gives you the facts without the spin.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-in-iraq-trump-says-all-is-well-idUSKBN1Z60NL

BAGHDAD/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iran launched missiles at U.S.-led forces in Iraq on Wednesday in retaliation for the U.S. drone strike on an Iranian commander whose killing last week stoked fears of a new Middle East war.


Iranian state television said Iran had fired 15 missiles at U.S. targets in Iraq early on Wednesday. The U.S. military said at least two Iraqi facilities hosting U.S.-led coalition personnel were targeted at about 1:30 a.m. Iraq time (2230 GMT on Tuesday). Iraq said 22 missiles were fired.

Iranian officials said Tehran did not want a war and its strikes “concluded” its response to Friday’s killing of Qassem Soleimani, a powerful general whose burial in Iran after days of mourning was completed around the same time as Iran’s missile launches. Iranian state television showed mourners celebrating the attack.

U.S. President Donald Trump said in a tweet that an assessment of casualties and damage from the strikes was under way and that he would make a statement on Wednesday morning.

“All is well!” Trump, who visited one of the targeted sites in Iraq, Ain al-Asad air base, in December 2018, said on Twitter.

One source said early indications were of no U.S. casualties, while other U.S. officials declined to comment.

Iranian state television said 80 “American terrorists” had been killed and U.S. helicopters and military equipment damaged. It did not provide evidence of how it obtained that information.

Germany, Denmark and Norway said none of their troops in Iraq were killed or injured. Iraq also said there were no casualties in its forces.

Iran, which has long said U.S. forces should leave the Middle East, told Washington after the attacks to withdraw its troops to prevent more deaths and warned U.S. allies including Israel not to allow attacks from their territories.

Iranian television reported an official in Supreme Leader Ali Khameni’s office as saying the missile attacks were the “weakest” of several retaliation scenarios. It quoted another source saying Iran had lined up 100 other potential targets.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani was due to speak later on Wednesday, state television reported.

Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman said the bases targeted were al-Asad air base and another facility in Erbil, Iraq.
[continued, they talk about the plane later]

So Iran says they killed 80 of us, other sources say no US "terrorists" were killed. Iran says "Tehran did not want a war and its strikes “concluded” its response to Friday’s killing of Qassem Soleimani." I'm not sure that's how this works...we conducted a precision strike to prevent an attack, you can't just launch missiles in retaliation at a military base and expect there won't be a backlash. That's how you really escalate a situation. If they truly failed that badly at hitting the targets, maybe the retaliation was just a limp dicked move to try and save face...guess we'll wait and see once the reports come in. If it was all a move to try and save face, reminds me of that South Park episode where they give Canadians a bunch of candy and Bennigans coupons to get them to stop striking.

 

[Irish#1]

Plane bound for Ukraine "crashes" shortly after takeoff from Tehran. I have a very hard time believing this was due to mechanical issues, unless mechanical issues means an Iranian missile.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ash-no-immediate-word-casualities/2840480001/

When I saw that news, my first thought was Iran trying to blame the crash on us.

Iranian television reported an official in Supreme Leader Ali Khameni’s office as saying the missile attacks were the “weakest” of several retaliation scenarios. It quoted another source saying Iran had lined up 100 other potential targets.

The weakest would have been a single strike similar to us vaporizing General Salmonella.

 

[IrishLion]

Trump rekt a terrorist and then Iran launched some rockets that didn't hurt us to save face and now it's over. This is a huge win for Trump.

Right now it's a huge win... as long as he doesn't get heated at something on Twitter and decide that Iran needs to pay for launching missiles at the base as an emotional outlet.

 

[wizards8507]

Right now it's a huge win... as long as he doesn't get heated at something on Twitter and decide that Iran needs to pay for launching missiles at the base as an emotional outlet.

That's not his foreign policy and it never has been. People keep trying to play the "Trump is a hothead" card when it comes to Iran but that's not him. His foreign policy instincts are a "bring the troops home" borderline isolationism, he's not a war hawk neocon.

 

[SoIll]

Let me ask you this...

Who do you think paid for those missiles that Iran decided to shoot off last night??

 

[calvegas04]

Let me ask you this...

Who do you think paid for those missiles that Iran decided to shoot off last night??

Russia or Obama

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

That's not his foreign policy and it never has been. People keep trying to play the "Trump is a hothead" card when it comes to Iran but that's not him. His foreign policy instincts are a "bring the troops home" borderline isolationism, he's not a war hawk neocon.

Borderline isolationist don't bring John Bolton on board or have Nikki Hayley give her best Colon Powell impression in front of the UN. Not to mention him vetoing efforts to stop assistance to Mohammad Bone-Saw's bombing of civilians in Yemen.

I'm still laughing about the incompetence that lead the administration to take "backsies" on the letter saying we'd pull our troops out of Iraq.

 

[ulukinatme]

Trump rekt a terrorist and then Iran launched some rockets that didn't hurt us to save face and now it's over. This is a huge win for Trump.

It's even better than that. It's reported that during the funeral for the general there was a massive stampede that killed 56 people and injured hundreds more. That stampede took more lives than their missile attack. You can't make this stuff up.

[EDIT] I should make a point that a loss of life is not a positive thing in this particular case, it's just so damn ironic and bizarre...

 

[irishtrooper]

This is an NBA “hold me back” during a fight response to save face. It seems pretty straightforward based on what they’ve said and the actual results.

They couldn’t just let it go. The Iranian leadership have talked tough for years to project an appearance of strength and control. I seriously doubt they really want to start an actual fight they can’t win.

Like him or not, President Trump hasn’t been quick to war (which may be surprising to most since he flies off the handle on twitter constantly). I feel like we are in a good place as they know that we will finally push back.

 

[SoIll]

Russia or Obama

You got it

 

[Wingman Ray]

Also Iran's way of pushing the line. I would say if no more strikes happen, Iran is safe. I would think anything else gets sent, there will be issues coming Irans way.

Iran knows it cannot win this battle. They just want to thump their chests and appear to be bold for their vastly uneducated and uninformed population. Taking a page from Russia's book for the past 100+ years, if the population doesnt have a pot to piss in, they can at least have national pride that they are the alpha bear.

 

[beryirish]

I bet when Iran fired off those missiles they were saying "please don't kill anyone, please don't kill anyone." Because if one American life was lost from this "retaliation" then US soldiers would be on Iranian soil right now.

 

[irish4ever]

I bet when Iran fired off those missiles they were saying "please don't kill anyone, please don't kill anyone." Because if one American life was lost from this "retaliation" then US soldiers would be on Iranian soil right now.

Not sure there would be U.S. "boots on the ground" inside Iran, but the "gates of hell" would definitely be opened from the air!

 

[irish4ever]

Russia or Obama

$150 billion can buy a lot of missiles!

 

[Irish#1]

It's even better than that. It's reported that during the funeral for the general there was a massive stampede that killed 56 people and injured hundreds more. That stampede took more lives than their missile attack. You can't make this stuff up.

[EDIT] I should make a point that a loss of life is not a positive thing in this particular case, it's just so damn ironic and bizarre...

When I saw that on the news,my first thought was going back to when the Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral was held. They were passing his casket all around through the crowd to the point the lost control, the casket came open and his body fell out. Eight people were killed during the procession. The Iranians idea of a funeral sure isn't what we are accustomed to.

 

[BobbyMac]

Iran's problem now is, the modern Persian under 40 has way more in common with their cousins in SoCal than they do with the generations that allowed the clerics to talk them into revolution against Pahlavi. Added to that, the population has doubled since '79 which means you are producing more and more players for the other team. WHEN their revolution happens, it will be brought to you live on Instagram.

 

[BobbyMac]

Not sure there would be U.S. "boots on the ground" inside Iran, but the "gates of hell" would definitely be opened from the air!

100% positive there'd be boots on the ground. Not many, many aren't needed. But they are always there when it's time.

More importantly, there are thousands of sandals on the ground now. Have been since '79.

 

[Irish#1]

Trump didn't mention any retaliation in his speech. Looks like he's going to pressure the Allies to assist in cutting off any nuclear development and impose additional sanctions. I don't see this escalating, at least not because of us.

 

[irishnd31]

When I saw that on the news,my first thought was going back to when the Ayatollah Khomeini's funeral was held. They were passing his casket all around through the crowd to the point the lost control, the casket came open and his body fell out. Eight people were killed during the procession. The Iranians idea of a funeral sure isn't what we are accustomed to.

Dude, around here I see people attend funerals in jeans. I thought that was appalling. Never saw a stiff fall out of the box tho. Not yet anyway.

 

[beryirish]

Dude, around here I see people attend funerals in jeans. I thought that was appalling. Never saw a stiff fall out of the box tho. Not yet anyway.

Here you go. Didn't have the bad heart to post real ones.

 

[Old Man Mike]

This certainly doesn't have anything to do at the scale of WWIII. It DOES promise to create dangers vis-a-vis terrorists and attacks on US interests ... and that is obviously undesirable. CIA and Homeland Security will be "on" this of course and will mitigate the majority of the attempts, especially here in the States, but any increase in fuel for fanaticism is not helpful.

Whereas Iran used to be very important in big issues due to oil, it is no longer so. (this is not due to Trump nor Obama by the way; it's due to the global business powers.) Iran is behaving now similarly to how it has been for a couple of decades --- essentially privately "frightened" while main politicians try to use tepid saber-rattling to stay in power. They are irrelevant unless we make them more than they are.

Our problem is that our politicians use places like Iran for political (not patriotic or general citizen) gain. In many ways, this is Cuba on a bigger scale, but more distant. Almost every student of Cuba and the globalism of economies has by now realized that the Cuba "threat" would have disappeared into intertwined economy relationships LONG LONG ago, if we could have just economically colonized them ... and we had lots of ways not called trade barriers.

We have pursued the same paths with Iran and Russia --- we apparently NEED enemies to scream at and fear. Iran would, in many opinions, rapidly evolve into the westernized country that they were becoming way back in those bad old Shah days. Many analysts think that less paranoid or thought-manipulating (for our own politician's gains) approaches could have made Iran more like Malaysia or Singapore than Syria or even Pakistan.

Russia itself is breaking out of the US-trade barriers (revisioned Marshall Plan) policies towards enemies. Their involvements with Europe and particularly Germany are not only two-way lucrative in the big picture, but entrapping them in the Too-much-to-lose Globalism. Putin still screeches a lot, but mainly to keep his job. And of course he wants "more influence" --- that's what economic competition is about.

There's no threat of WWIII. But there is a lot of threat of punk terrorists becoming more damaging when anyone feeds their fanaticism. All of us should pray that these b@stards never get bio-weapons that they can actually use. Chem weapons leave a nasty but limited spot. Nukes leave a larger nasty but limited spot. Only bio's can kill a nation or a state or a whole city.

I'm for stopping the politics and tying places like Iran and Syria up economically --- even with Russia involved. I'd like a world where those places wake up in the morning rich and the last thing on their minds is ruining that.

 

[Circa]

https://babylonbee.com/news/remembering-world-war-iii-30-days-later
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[Irish YJ]

https://babylonbee.com/news/remembering-world-war-iii-30-days-later

I read that too... It's worth a quote...

WORLD—Sunday will mark 30 days since America defeated Iran in World War III, the shortest war in history. President Trump, now seen as the greatest world leader of all time, needed only 45 seconds to declare his victory.


It started when Trump ordered an airstrike just after midnight on 3 January 2020. The strike killed two high-ranking Iranian officials, Qasem Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, who had definitely started the war by being in American territory in the first place. This left the Iranians helpless, and forced them to surrender. The war was over.

(While the general public believed Iran fought back in the war, firing missiles at American troops, the story was easily debunked by former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura.)

“It was a good war, great war, well thought out too,” President Trump explained, looking through his Twitter feed from early January. “I like to consider myself the Winston Churchill of World War III. Its got a nice ring to it.”

In the four weeks since World War III, the globe has grown to its safest level on record. Every terrorist in the world has been killed, Iran has been wiped off the map, and the territory previously known as Iran, Trumpsbakistan, is now the hottest tourist destination on the planet. With a world like this, it's hard to imagine another major war anytime soon. Thank you very much, President Trump!