Who is likely next?

[BeauBenken]

i wasn't being serious. Didnt mean to come off that way. I am wrong a lot too.

I know. Hence the funny Star Wars reference. haha

You are right an awful lot of the time though.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

Be right about Keith Marshall please. Thanks

 

[NDPhilly]

Are mahone and Jones friends

 

[Riddickulous]

Are mahone and Jones friends

I also had this thought.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Are mahone and Jones friends

If they aren't, THEY WILL BE SOON.

 

[Riddickulous]

If they aren't, THEY WILL BE SOON.

Also had this thought.

 

[BeauBenken]

Mind if I repeat my own post?

"Is funny cause is true!"

 

[Riddickulous]

Mind if I repeat my own post?

ABSOLUTELY NOT WHAT KIND OF SICK MAN ARE YOU OH MY GOD YOUR MIND IS DEVOURED BY DARKNESS BLAH BLAH BLAH

 

[BGIF]

im always right.

Jonesing?

 

[GBdomer]

Jonesing?

i wasn't being serious. was just pumped about JJ.

 

[BGIF]

i wasn't being serious. was just pumped about JJ.

Me neither.

 

[Old Man Mike]

So, what's left to be right about?

A conundrum wrapped in an enigma....


"I been left so long it seems like right to me".

 

[Rizzophil]

I think Will Mahone is next.

 

[rtrn2glory]

i think with a strong showing saturday and whooping against Fichigan...mahone will commit when he visits for Michigan St...plus a strong showing this saturday could put us in the running for evan goldman, i think he's visiting this weekend even though he's committed.

 

[IrishLax]

So, what's left to be right about?

A conundrum wrapped in an enigma....

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[Irishcop]

Im sure this is the wrong place for this question and for that I apologize, but what is with the huge difference between Scout and Rivals when it comes to our commits. We have four 5* with Scout and none with Rivals? I understand they are different services but it just seems like a big difference, or is it not that big of a deal?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Im sure this is the wrong place for this question and for that I apologize, but what is with the huge difference between Scout and Rivals when it comes to our commits. We have four 5* with Scout and none with Rivals? I understand they are different services but it just seems like a big difference, or is it not that big of a deal?

Scout gives 5 to their top 50 recruits and Rivals only has about half that number.

EDIT: Scout also likes ND's recruits better than rivals does.

ND verbals in top 100:

Scout - 6
ESPN - 4
Rivals - 4
247 - 5

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Im sure this is the wrong place for this question and for that I apologize, but what is with the huge difference between Scout and Rivals when it comes to our commits. We have four 5* with Scout and none with Rivals? I understand they are different services but it just seems like a big difference, or is it not that big of a deal?

Rivals, 247, and ESPN come out with a Top X list of nationally ranked recruits. Instead of ranking nationally, Scout gives it's Top ~50 recruits 5 ratings. It's misleading, because a 5 on Rivals, 247, or ESPN generally indicates a truly elite talent, whereas on Scout it just means "we like this kid a lot".

That said, I've come to agree with Lax that 247 and Scout are the most reliable at the moment. ESPN and Rivals simply aren't doing the necessary legwork any more.

 

[Irishcop]

Oh ok thanks guys.. I know all these kids are unproven talents at the college level but it just seems to me we have a much more talented comitts then say Michigan but because they have quantity they are ranked much higher. That makes no sense to me. But what the hell do I know.

 

[IrishLax]

Oh ok thanks guys.. I know all these kids are unproven talents at the college level but it just seems to me we have a much more talented comitts then say Michigan but because they have quantity they are ranked much higher. That makes no sense to me. But what the hell do I know.

Cop, the other reason to be high on this class are guys like Okwara, Perkins and Baratti. All of those guys have tremendous upside but are largely unproven.

Baratti is a tremendous athlete who is only 3/low 4 because he is white. If he has a different skin color and runs a 40 as fast as he did laser timed while being that size he's a 4/5. Who knows if he'll end up being a great safety, but the dude has the athletic traits to be an All-American if he develops correctly... or total bust if he doesn't we just don't know.

Okwara is freaking 16 years old. As long as this sin't some Freddy Adu thing where he's actually like 23 but listed at 16, you have to think he has tremendous upside to develop and get bigger, stronger, and more explosive.

Perkins has all of the athletic traits you could ever want and is about the size of Darius Fleming. He could develop into a great OLB, but right now he is a total tweener that is still learning how to play RB and DE.

Michigan's class right now has some very, very good players. They also have some very good depth pieces. But most of their 3 players don't have nearly the upside of the guys I just mentioned above. This is a generalization, but really when I look at Michigan's I think "wow, this could end up being an amazing class, but it's not there yet." Add Diamond, Payton and Darboh to what they've got and it's a completely different story.

 

[anarin]

Cop, the other reason to be high on this class are guys like Okwara, Perkins and Baratti. All of those guys have tremendous upside but are largely unproven.

Baratti is a tremendous athlete who is only 3/low 4 because he is white. If he has a different skin color and runs a 40 as fast as he did laser timed while being that size he's a 4/5. Who knows if he'll end up being a great safety, but the dude has the athletic traits to be an All-American if he develops correctly... or total bust if he doesn't we just don't know.

Okwara is freaking 16 years old. As long as this sin't some Freddy Adu thing where he's actually like 23 but listed at 16, you have to think he has tremendous upside to develop and get bigger, stronger, and more explosive.

Perkins has all of the athletic traits you could ever want and is about the size of Darius Fleming. He could develop into a great OLB, but right now he is a total tweener that is still learning how to play RB and DE.

Michigan's class right now has some very, very good players. They also have some very good depth pieces. But most of their 3 players don't have nearly the upside of the guys I just mentioned above. This is a generalization, but really when I look at Michigan's I think "wow, this could end up being an amazing class, but it's not there yet." Add Diamond, Payton and Darboh to what they've got and it's a completely different story.

Racism!!! the man is holding him down.

 

[TerryTate]

Baratti is a tremendous athlete who is only 3/low 4 because he is white. If he has a different skin color and runs a 40 as fast as he did laser timed while being that size he's a 4/5. Who knows if he'll end up being a great safety, but the dude has the athletic traits to be an All-American if he develops correctly... or total bust if he doesn't we just don't know.

He's not a 3 because he's white, he's a 3 because no one has seen him play safety yet.

Basing a ranking off of a 40 time and vertical doesn't make sense when a guy is moving from QB to Safety.

Otherwise, I agree with your comments

 

[Whiskeyjack]

He's not a 3 because he's white, he's a 3 because no one has seen him play safety yet.

Basing a ranking off of a 40 time and vertical doesn't make sense when a guy is moving from QB to Safety.

Otherwise, I agree with your comments

The just rank him as an ATH. Lax has a point; a black kid with his measurables would surely be a 4 ATH, regardless of where might project at the next level.

 

[AvesEvo]

He's not a 3 because he's white, he's a 3 because no one has seen him play safety yet.

+1 Yessir

 

[TerryTate]

The just rank him as an ATH. Lax has a point; a black kid with his measurables would surely be a 4 ATH, regardless of where might project at the next level.

Not necessarily. Miles Shuler started off in the rankings as a 3 Star. He was a state champion sprinter with a 4.38 40. He played QB in HS. Wasn't until the last set of rankings that he popped to a 4 star WR.

 

[PANDFAN]

He's not a 3 because he's white, he's a 3 because no one has seen him play safety yet.

Basing a ranking off of a 40 time and vertical doesn't make sense when a guy is moving from QB to Safety.

Otherwise, I agree with your comments

idk about the race being a factor....prime example-Cam

 

[TerryTate]

idk about the race being a factor....prime example-Cam

We're talking measurables (40, vertical, shuttle, bench, height, weight). What did Cam have there that would lead you to believe he should be a 4 star?

 

[BeauBenken]

We're talking measurables (40, vertical, shuttle, bench, height, weight). What did Cam have there that would lead you to believe he should be a 4 star?

I think Cam did have an elite shuttle time, didn't he?

Cam's argument would be more about his great production against top notch competition though.

And yes, nobody has seen Barrati play much safety so I don't think you can play the race card quite yet. Good chance you're right though.

 

[Irishcop]

Cop, the other reason to be high on this class are guys like Okwara, Perkins and Baratti. All of those guys have tremendous upside but are largely unproven.

Baratti is a tremendous athlete who is only 3/low 4 because he is white. If he has a different skin color and runs a 40 as fast as he did laser timed while being that size he's a 4/5. Who knows if he'll end up being a great safety, but the dude has the athletic traits to be an All-American if he develops correctly... or total bust if he doesn't we just don't know.

Okwara is freaking 16 years old. As long as this sin't some Freddy Adu thing where he's actually like 23 but listed at 16, you have to think he has tremendous upside to develop and get bigger, stronger, and more explosive.

Perkins has all of the athletic traits you could ever want and is about the size of Darius Fleming. He could develop into a great OLB, but right now he is a total tweener that is still learning how to play RB and DE.

Michigan's class right now has some very, very good players. They also have some very good depth pieces. But most of their 3 players don't have nearly the upside of the guys I just mentioned above. This is a generalization, but really when I look at Michigan's I think "wow, this could end up being an amazing class, but it's not there yet." Add Diamond, Payton and Darboh to what they've got and it's a completely different story.

Thanks Lax for the info. I am also very intrigued by kids like Baratti, Okwara, and Perkins. I think the up side with these kids could be huge. I also think we have the right coaching staff to ensure this.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Cop, the other reason to be high on this class are guys like Okwara, Perkins and Baratti. All of those guys have tremendous upside but are largely unproven.

Baratti is a tremendous athlete who is only 3/low 4 because he is white. If he has a different skin color and runs a 40 as fast as he did laser timed while being that size he's a 4/5. Who knows if he'll end up being a great safety, but the dude has the athletic traits to be an All-American if he develops correctly... or total bust if he doesn't we just don't know.

Okwara is freaking 16 years old. As long as this sin't some Freddy Adu thing where he's actually like 23 but listed at 16, you have to think he has tremendous upside to develop and get bigger, stronger, and more explosive.

Perkins has all of the athletic traits you could ever want and is about the size of Darius Fleming. He could develop into a great OLB, but right now he is a total tweener that is still learning how to play RB and DE.

Michigan's class right now has some very, very good players. They also have some very good depth pieces. But most of their 3 players don't have nearly the upside of the guys I just mentioned above. This is a generalization, but really when I look at Michigan's I think "wow, this could end up being an amazing class, but it's not there yet." Add Diamond, Payton and Darboh to what they've got and it's a completely different story.

LAX can't beleive you left off Prosise...I SMH at you